The Religion Thread

[billy.pilgrim]

Why do you hate the one true FSM?

My wife and I saw one of those just last night, our grandson flung it from his plate across the dinner table.

Why is YOUR grandson such a hater?

[1 CAT FAN]

Why do you hate the one true FSM?

My wife and I saw one of those just last night, our grandson flung it from his plate across the dinner table.

Why is YOUR grandson such a hater?

He and I had a little laugh, him more so than me, when it didn't stay in flight. Now, the wife had a different reaction. :problem:

[billy.pilgrim]

Why do you hate the one true FSM?

My wife and I saw one of those just last night, our grandson flung it from his plate across the dinner table.

Why is YOUR grandson such a hater?

He and I had a little laugh, him more so than me, when it didn't stay in flight. Now, the wife had a different reaction. :problem:

So, you do admit to seeing mythical creatures and say it runs in the family.

[1 CAT FAN]

Why do you hate the one true FSM?

My wife and I saw one of those just last night, our grandson flung it from his plate across the dinner table.

Why is YOUR grandson such a hater?

He and I had a little laugh, him more so than me, when it didn't stay in flight. Now, the wife had a different reaction. :problem:

So, you do admit to seeing mythical creatures and say it runs in the family.

We call it a spaghetti dinner, didn't know you fellas saw it as something to worship.

[O Really]

NYT blasted for egregious "anti-semitic" editorial cartoon. Tucks tail as we've come to expect. Here's one view that doesn't see it as anti-semitic...
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premiu ... -1.7173253

(copy of cartoon is in article, for anyone who hasn't seen it)

[bannination]

We call it a spaghetti dinner, didn't know you fellas saw it as something to worship.

Oh it's much like Christians who drink his blood and eat his flesh. Sounds like you're worshiping FSM after all.

[GoCubsGo]

NYT blasted for egregious "anti-semitic" editorial cartoon. Tucks tail as we've come to expect. Here's one view that doesn't see it as anti-semitic...
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premiu ... -1.7173253

(copy of cartoon is in article, for anyone who hasn't seen it)

Can't read it without signing up.

[Vrede too]

NYT blasted for egregious "anti-semitic" editorial cartoon. Tucks tail as we've come to expect. Here's one view that doesn't see it as anti-semitic...
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premiu ... -1.7173253

(copy of cartoon is in article, for anyone who hasn't seen it)

Didn't turn off my AdBlocker, found the cartoon elsewhere.
https://www.rt.com/usa/457732-new-york- ... c-cartoon/



Idk.
Guide dog doesn't bother me, but they're never dachshunds. A German breed may have been a poor choice.
The Star of David is okay since it's on the Israeli flag.
Leading a blind POPOTUS is the heart of the message and also doesn't bother me.
Giving POPOTUS Jewish features and a yarmulke seems gratuitous and anti-Semitic to me.

What sways you at your link?

[O Really]

NYT blasted for egregious "anti-semitic" editorial cartoon. Tucks tail as we've come to expect. Here's one view that doesn't see it as anti-semitic...
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premiu ... -1.7173253

(copy of cartoon is in article, for anyone who hasn't seen it)

Can't read it without signing up.

Strange, I didn't have a problem and am not signed up. I'll see if I can copy it. Here's the cartoon

[O Really]

Here's the content...

The New York Times’ cartoon of Benjamin Netanyahu as a guide dog for Donald Trump that angered the “Jewish world” is actually a clichéd cartoon, though well-designed and certainly not anti-Semitic. It describes two leaders, one blind being led by the other. It’s a caustic image with a vicious tone, exactly what a political cartoon should be.



Netanyahu is depicted as a dachshund, which maybe is a compliment because these dogs are great hunters, and despite their natural suspiciousness, they boast an innate ability to make friends. Behind Netanyahu the dachshund walks his good friend Trump, sullenly, a kippa on his head, symbolizing the strength of his ties with Netanyahu. Trump has been photographed wearing a skull cap — near the Western Wall, for example — so it’s not something an artist has put on him without any justification.


The choice to illustrate Netanyahu and Trump walking with determination, and even against a blood-red background, hints that they’re not just taking an innocent morning walk. They’re on a survivalist hunting trip. What are they hunting? Foreigners? Leftists? The hostile media?




The Star of David on Netanyahu’s collar is totally justified, and there’s a reasonable chance that if Netanyahu had to choose a symbol to wear around his neck, he’d pick this one. Netanyahu is leading Trump, his steps a little tense, but the leadership role is definitely flattering for the head of a small country.

The media said Netanyahu was drawn with an unusually large nose, but a very superficial look confirms that Netanyahu’s nose hasn’t been distorted, certainly not in a way reminiscent of anti-Semitic cartoons, as has been alleged. The complaint that the illustration is anti-Semitic reinforces the feeling that the Foreign Ministry looks for every possible justification to play the victim to silence critics.


Images depicting politicians as blind people with guide dogs is as old as the advent of political cartoons. James Akin’s infamous one from 1804 shows Thomas Jefferson with the body of a dog. Richard Nixon has also been drawn as a dog, and Tony Blair as a dog wearing an American flag as his collar. American patriots have been depicted as a herd of blind horses.


Were these cartoons outlawed as anti-American? No. The artist John Graham has shown Trump on all fours and a bunch of missiles up his derriere. Imagine the cry of “anti-Semitism” if Netanyahu were depicted in a similar position, say, with Patriot missiles, or submarines.


Meanwhile, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been portrayed as a wild dog biting Barack Obama’s hand. His nose was made to look a lot longer than Netanyahu’s in this week’s cartoon. Was there any outcry against the Ahmadinejad cartoon or demands to outlaw it as anti-Semitic?

Theresa May was depicted by the graffiti artist The Pink Bear Rebel this year, was she not? She’s seen blindfolded being led by a blindfolded bulldog wearing a British-flag doggie jacket. You can only guess what the Foreign Ministry would say about a cartoon of a bulldog wrapped in an Israeli flag.

Under pressure from the Israeli consul general in New York and the Foreign Ministry, the Trump-Netanyahu cartoon was removed from the internet. The newspaper published a clarification, a half apology, and described the cartoon as offensive and an error in judgment.


A cartoon is by definition an exaggeration that looks for weak points. Sometimes it’s a warning sign: It provides strong, exaggerated images to shock and awaken. That was the case this time, a moment before this duo drags us along with them on a leash on a nighttime stroll.

Zeev Engelmayer is a comedian.

[O Really]

Giving POPOTUS Jewish features and a yarmulke seems gratuitous and anti-Semitic to me.

Or maybe not so much..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdQilbCcAFA

[O Really]

I'm not anti-semitic in regard to the religion or as to the people and culture. I'm not so fond of Israel as a country/government. Israel is the one that chooses to link their country with Judaism, so they run the likely risk that criticism of the state will rub off on the religion or culture. If they don't want that to happen maybe they should have a better division between church and state. Yeah right, like that's going to happen.

[1 CAT FAN]

Why do YOU hate God?

Why do you hate the one true FSM?

My wife and I saw one of those just last night, our grandson flung it from his plate across the dinner table.

Why is YOUR grandson such a hater?

He and I had a little laugh, him more so than me, when it didn't stay in flight. Now, the wife had a different reaction.

So, you do admit to seeing mythical creatures and say it runs in the family.

We call it a spaghetti dinner, didn't know you fellas saw it as something to worship.

Oh it's much like Christians who drink his blood and eat his flesh. Sounds like you're worshiping FSM after all.

We did bless the spaghetti before we ate it.

[O Really]

We did bless the spaghetti before we ate it.
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You have the power equal to a god? On the other hand, being "blessed" apparently didn't save the spaghetti.
I thought people who prayed before meals were giving thanks for their food. But what do I know?

[neoplacebo]

We did bless the spaghetti before we ate it.

You have the power equal to a god? On the other hand, being "blessed" apparently didn't save the spaghetti.
I thought people who prayed before meals were giving thanks for their food. But what do I know?
[/quote]

A few times I have prayed after a vigorous repast; it's usually something like "please god, I'll never drink again" or "just let me put a foot on the floor so this bed will stop spinning." These laments invariably are to no avail and would be just as effective had they never been uttered. Come to think of it, I've never known anyone who prayed for something and got results. It's actually been reduced to something nice to say to the terminally ill or criminally insane. Wait; I do often pray that I not be suddenly knocked down from behind by someone hurling a bowling ball down the sidewalk, and so far I've been ok. I am not sure of the value of my prayer about wayward bowling balls because I figure I could likely hear the damn thing coming in time to take action.

[Vrede too]

You have the power equal to a god? On the other hand, being "blessed" apparently didn't save the spaghetti.
I thought people who prayed before meals were giving thanks for their food. But what do I know?

It doesn't save communion wafers, either.

A few times I have prayed after a vigorous repast; it's usually something like "please god, I'll never drink again" or "just let me put a foot on the floor so this bed will stop spinning." These laments invariably are to no avail and would be just as effective had they never been uttered. Come to think of it, I've never known anyone who prayed for something and got results. It's actually been reduced to something nice to say to the terminally ill or criminally insane. Wait; I do often pray that I not be suddenly knocked down from behind by someone hurling a bowling ball down the sidewalk, and so far I've been ok. I am not sure of the value of my prayer about wayward bowling balls because I figure I could likely hear the damn thing coming in time to take action.

Great, something new to worry about. Strike down my enemies and spare me, lord. :wave:

I've sometimes prayed that sketchy food wouldn't kill me, and so far those prayers have been answered 100%. Is that the same thing as grace?

[1 CAT FAN]

Why do YOU hate God?

Why do you hate the one true FSM?

My wife and I saw one of those just last night, our grandson flung it from his plate across the dinner table.

Why is YOUR grandson such a hater?

He and I had a little laugh, him more so than me, when it didn't stay in flight. Now, the wife had a different reaction.

So, you do admit to seeing mythical creatures and say it runs in the family.

We call it a spaghetti dinner, didn't know you fellas saw it as something to worship.

Oh it's much like Christians who drink his blood and eat his flesh. Sounds like you're worshiping FSM after all.

We did bless the spaghetti before we ate it.

You have the power equal to a God?

My grandson did give the spaghetti the opportunity to get away.

[billy.pilgrim]

You have the power equal to a god? On the other hand, being "blessed" apparently didn't save the spaghetti.
I thought people who prayed before meals were giving thanks for their food. But what do I know?

It doesn't save communion wafers, either.

A few times I have prayed after a vigorous repast; it's usually something like "please god, I'll never drink again" or "just let me put a foot on the floor so this bed will stop spinning." These laments invariably are to no avail and would be just as effective had they never been uttered. Come to think of it, I've never known anyone who prayed for something and got results. It's actually been reduced to something nice to say to the terminally ill or criminally insane. Wait; I do often pray that I not be suddenly knocked down from behind by someone hurling a bowling ball down the sidewalk, and so far I've been ok. I am not sure of the value of my prayer about wayward bowling balls because I figure I could likely hear the damn thing coming in time to take action.

Great, something new to worry about. Strike down my enemies and spare me, lord. :wave:

I've sometimes prayed that sketchy food wouldn't kill me, and so far those prayers have been answered 100%. Is that the same thing as grace?

I read about a major religion that approves of selling sketchy food to "others", giving rise to the familiar old song lyric, "If you can't eat it, sell it to the other side".

I've often wondered what other sketchy products they sell.

[Vrede too]

I read about a major religion that approves of selling sketchy food to "others", giving rise to the familiar old song lyric, "If you can't eat it, sell it to the other side".

I've often wondered what other sketchy products they sell.

Religion, for one.

[neoplacebo]

You have the power equal to a god? On the other hand, being "blessed" apparently didn't save the spaghetti.
I thought people who prayed before meals were giving thanks for their food. But what do I know?

It doesn't save communion wafers, either.

A few times I have prayed after a vigorous repast; it's usually something like "please god, I'll never drink again" or "just let me put a foot on the floor so this bed will stop spinning." These laments invariably are to no avail and would be just as effective had they never been uttered. Come to think of it, I've never known anyone who prayed for something and got results. It's actually been reduced to something nice to say to the terminally ill or criminally insane. Wait; I do often pray that I not be suddenly knocked down from behind by someone hurling a bowling ball down the sidewalk, and so far I've been ok. I am not sure of the value of my prayer about wayward bowling balls because I figure I could likely hear the damn thing coming in time to take action.

Great, something new to worry about. Strike down my enemies and spare me, lord. :wave:

I've sometimes prayed that sketchy food wouldn't kill me, and so far those prayers have been answered 100%. Is that the same thing as grace?

Heh, I totally missed the pun about "striking" and "sparing" so I send a laurel, and hearty greeting your way. I also have had a few experiences with sketchy food; like that meat on a stick that I bought from street vendors in the Phillipines.....rumor was that it was monkey or dog. But, hey, I ate it just the same. It wasn't bad but I don't miss it and sure as hell don't pray about getting more of it.