The Food Thread

[O Really]

The Stampede isn't until July and we'll be 1000 k away from Calgary and on the other side of the mountains then. But it does look like a fun event. Maybe next year. There weren't many things on that list I'd actually eat IRL, but if you're looking for a sugar/fat/calorie overload with no redeeming nutritional value, they've got your number.

[GoCubsGo]

Who classifies that crap as food?

[O Really]

Who classifies that crap as food?

Good question

Maybe the definition is "anything that can be fried and coated with sugar and downed with beer"

[Vrede too]

The Safest, Most Sustainable Seafood to Eat
Here's what's most responsible to put on the table—for now

Clams, mussels, and oysters
Boston mackerel on the East Coast
On the West Coast ... sand dabs
wild-caught, mild-tasting hake or pollack
Some halibut
king crab pulled from highly regulated Alaskan fisheries
On the East Coast ... green crabs
invasive species ... Lionfish, blue catfish, and snakehead fish

[billy.pilgrim]

The Safest, Most Sustainable Seafood to Eat
Here's what's most responsible to put on the table—for now

Clams, mussels, and oysters
Boston mackerel on the East Coast
On the West Coast ... sand dabs
wild-caught, mild-tasting hake or pollack
Some halibut
king crab pulled from highly regulated Alaskan fisheries
On the East Coast ... green crabs
invasive species ... Lionfish, blue catfish, and snakehead fish

What about mullet?
Eating ain't gonna put a dent in the lionfish population. Cuba has a better idea. They created a lionfish predator.

[O Really]

I haven't lived out here long enough to know what a sand dab is, but I didn't feel too bad. Seattle-native Lady O didn't know what it was either. Anyway, I looked it up and it looks good. Now if I can just find some without going to Monterrey.

I'm glad oysters are on the list. Think I'll go get some to have with our salmon tonight.

[Vrede too]

What about mullet?

Idk.

Eating ain't gonna put a dent in the lionfish population.

The article is about safety and sustainability, not about beneficial eradication.

Cuba has a better idea.

Always.

They created a lionfish predator.

Maybe didn't work out?

In 2014 at Jardines de la Reina National Marine Park in Cuba, a diver experimented with spearing and feeding lionfish to sharks in an effort to teach them to seek out the fish as prey. However, by 2016, Cuba was finding it more effective to fish for lionfish as food.

[Vrede too]

I haven't lived out here long enough to know what a sand dab is, but I didn't feel too bad. Seattle-native Lady O didn't know what it was either. Anyway, I looked it up and it looks good. Now if I can just find some without going to Monterrey.

I'm glad oysters are on the list....

Lookout, Lady O, O Really's got oysters on the menu.

I'm happy to now have some options for eating out and my next trip to the co-op.

[GoCubsGo]

Mmmmmm, smoked mullet , haven't had that in thirty years.

[O Really]

I think I could personally get clams and oysters off the list by myself. I'd be happy to help with the halibut, too.

[neoplacebo]

trump eats hamberders just for the halibut. He murdered his young son and ate him just for the halibut (no one has seen him in months). The man is crazy and the truth is not in him. Be Best is a new brand of caviar aborted from, you guessed it, what the halibut. Terrible, Terrible.

[Vrede too]

Shopping for Change
Under the slick supermarket packaging lies a food system that’s failing us. The good news is, we know how to build a better one.

I'm no fanatic. Many poor choices are avoided by doing most of my shopping at the Co-op.
http://www.hendersonville.coop/

[O Really]

Shopping for Change
Under the slick supermarket packaging lies a food system that’s failing us. The good news is, we know how to build a better one.

I'm no fanatic. Many poor choices are avoided by doing most of my shopping at the Co-op.
http://www.hendersonville.coop/

I'm not doubting the "deliberate decisions to maximize profit...etc." but really, isn't it consumers who are "failing us?" Destructive corporate system notwithstanding, I can go to most any supermarket and buy fresh vegetables and fruit, somewhat localish meat, decent fish (even if occasionally mis-labeled), acceptable whole grain bread... or I can buy chips, nitrite meat simulations, sugared cereal, box mac and cheese, frozen cardboard pizza, etc. Why is there even a whole aisle - a whole effin' aisle of chips? Who buys this stuff? Oh yeah, it's the fat ladies wheezing at the effort of pushing their cart full of sugar drinks and white bread. Why can the corporations make high profits off of selling crap? [assume Sam Kinison voice] Because people buy it! If everyone shopped like us they'd lose their shirts on the chip aisle.

[neoplacebo]

Well, it just goes to show; being at the top of the food chain exposes one to occasionally being chain whipped by it. In an eat or be eaten world, it's best to stay hungry.

[Vrede too]

I'm not doubting the "deliberate decisions to maximize profit...etc." but really, isn't it consumers who are "failing us?" ...

Somewhat, hence the benefit from websites like this one and Michelle's formally ( ) nutrition-activist government. However, there are also a bunch of poor foods that are directly subsidized, or indirectly subsidized with lousy trade, labor and environmental policies. This makes poor foods cheaper than they should be and cheaper than alternatives. We need education and incentives. Bill de Blasio is correct, he's just politically inept.

[neoplacebo]

I'm not doubting the "deliberate decisions to maximize profit...etc." but really, isn't it consumers who are "failing us?" ...

Somewhat, hence the benefit from websites like this one and Michelle's formally ( ) nutrition-activist government. However, there are also a bunch of poor foods that are directly subsidized, or indirectly subsidized with lousy trade, labor and environmental policies. This makes poor foods cheaper than they should be and cheaper than alternatives. We need education and incentives. Bill de Blasio is correct, he's just politically inept.

Consumers will buy just about any fucking thing if it's advertised and promoted the right way. And as always, Prophet leads the way. The only contrary example I can think of was the "new Coke" ten or fifteen years ago. It was so bad it probably had a seismic assignation in the company files. That thing about the steak with a substantial part of a rib attached is another example; folks will buy damn near anything if they think it's cool, new, tasty, zesty. or appealing in some other way. I've always been a sort of meat and potato type of omnivore and eschew processed stuff or trendy fake food or stuff with lots of chemicals in it. Food is my life. Food kicks ass.

[O Really]

Consumers will buy just about any fucking thing if it's advertised and promoted the right way.

I think that's my point. They're volunteer victims, nay even enthusiastic victims and they jump wholeheartedly into their victimhood. Of course, "buy just about any fucking thing ...advertised and promoted the right way" did work for Trump. If Trump were food, he'd be rotted haggis.

[neoplacebo]

Consumers will buy just about any fucking thing if it's advertised and promoted the right way.

I think that's my point. They're volunteer victims, nay even enthusiastic victims and they jump wholeheartedly into their victimhood. Of course, "buy just about any fucking thing ...advertised and promoted the right way" did work for Trump. If Trump were food, he'd be rotted haggis.

Yeah, that's a good analogy comparing trump to food. I tend to think that if he were food, he'd be apple juice on the label, but urine in the jar.

[O Really]

... apple juice on the label, but urine in the jar.

[billy.pilgrim]

... apple juice on the label, but urine in the jar.

may be the best description of trump - ever


"apple juice on the label, but urine in the jar" has a clear ring to it