Gun Legislation

[billy.pilgrim]

The Dayton shooter was a lefty and the reichwing is all over it desperately trying to deflect from El Paso and Gilroy, CA.

Connor Betts: Twitter Posts on Being a Leftist, Guns

However, there's no indication so far that the attack was motivated by lefty politics, unlike El Paso's xenophobic hatred or the Gilroy, CA Garlic Festival shooting. It's not like Betts' targeted and killed sister was a Trumpette.

Can you imagine the poor parents?

We regret to inform you that your daughter is dead, that she and 8 others were killed by your son, and that he is also dead.

Additional notes on right is up, up is down, black is white, bobblehead alito is a liberal, the Klan is an African American support group and Fox is Fair and Balanced

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... f-congress

trumpie said, "hate has no place in our country."
and
these shooters are "really very seriously mentally ill."
and
these "shootings has been going on "for years and years" and "we have to get it stopped."

Fox news guy continues ever onward, aided by words from another fox news guy

"However, some observers cautioned that mass shooters are increasingly using disingenuous manifestos primarily as a means to cause division and sow political discord, rather than to advance a particular agenda."

"The first mistake people are making is to assume the creep meant anything he said in his manifesto," wrote columnist Brian Cates. "Something new has been added into the mix in the last year and we have to recognize it: Mass shootings done for **fun** as the ultimate troll where these [shooters] write confusing manifestos and then sit back & watch the fun as both sides claim he belongs to the other."


More on the fox news idiot who cautions that mass shootings are really trolling events done for gee whiz golly fun

https://blog.simplejustice.us/2017/09/0 ... egg-re-be/

Yep, he really did say that the Utah nurse had it coming and yeppers - right is up, up is down, black is white, bobblehead alito is a liberal, the Klan is an African American support group and Fox is Fair and Balanced in this new world of ours where anything can be turned on its head.

[Vrede too]

Additional notes on right is up, up is down, black is white, bobblehead alito is a liberal, the Klan is an African American support group and Fox is Fair and Balanced

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... f-congress ...

Fake and Unbalanced "News"

The deadliest mass shootings in modern U.S. history

8. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 20 killed, 26 injured.

Dayton doesn't even make the top 22 list.

House Passes Second Gun Background Check Bill In As Many Days

Trump says ‘something GREAT’ can come out of shootings, tying background check bill to immigration reform

Sounds sorta good, but we need a clean bill. Mixing issues is an Rx for failure. Then, will the NRA-worshiping, America-hating Repugs go along?

Tell Mitch McConnell: Stop blocking gun control



The petition to Mitch McConnell reads:

"Our country's gun violence epidemic demands action. Call the Senate back from recess to vote on H.R. 8, the Bipartisan Background Checks Act, and H.R. 1112, the Enhanced Background Checks Act."

[O Really]

I expect a bunch of harumpphing out of Dems, usual deflection out of Repugs, and nothing to happen. When 33,028 total shooting incidents in 2019 as of Sunday, resulting in 8,734 deaths and 17,308 injuries doesn't make a difference, probably nothing else will either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3GBlVjUd0

[Vrede too]

I expect a bunch of harumpphing out of Dems, usual deflection out of Repugs, and nothing to happen. When 33,028 total shooting incidents in 2019 as of Sunday, resulting in 8,734 deaths and 17,308 injuries doesn't make a difference, probably nothing else will either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3GBlVjUd0

To be clear, those must just be figures for intentional 2nd party shooters, and may be low for injuries. With suicides and accidents we average 36,383 gun deaths/year and 100,120 gun injuries/year.
https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-america/

Deaths:

Injuries:

[O Really]

It occurred to me that despite the idea that "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" that currently all "outlaws" have all the guns they want now. Wouldn't it still be an improvement to keep even some of them from getting/keeping guns?

[neoplacebo]

I like those donut graphs but trump and other professional and perpetual victims will moan and groan and squawk that the graphs don't show the effects of video games, pot, "loose morals", and the general deterioration of what they consider to be in ordnung.

[O Really]

As long as any cause is more frequent than guns, they'll aways play buhwhuddabout.

[Vrede too]

As long as any cause is more frequent than guns, they'll aways play buhwhuddabout.

I love it when they mention car crash deaths, which are close to the same as for guns. I say, "I agree with you that guns and gun owners should be regulated to the extent that cars and drivers are."

They always run away.

[GoCubsGo]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

Good Lord, another well vetted brainstorm by the stable genius. Capital punishment has worked so well as a deterrent historically.

[Vrede too]

Extreme Risk Laws

The Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence has been instrumental in the passage of Extreme Risk Laws — sometimes referred to as “red flag laws.” Extreme Risk Laws allow family members and law enforcement to petition a court to temporarily remove guns from individuals demonstrating behavioral risk factors for dangerousness. Extreme Risk Laws also prevent these individuals from purchasing additional guns.

Which States have Extreme Risk Laws?

As of April 2019, fifteen states and the District of Columbia have Extreme Risk-Style Laws: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington.



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A couple of purple states, FL & CO, IN is the only red state. Repugs love gun violence.

After back to back shootings, Trump called for red flag laws. Here's what they are.

Dang, along with supporting universal background checks, Trump has gone liberal on the ammosexuals, thus creating a crisis for perpetually ovine Trumpettes. They shouldn’t fret, the lifelong cowardly Chickenhawk in Chief will flip-flop again after Faux Noise and/or the NRA scolds him.

[Vrede too]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

Good Lord, another well vetted brainstorm by the stable genius. Capital punishment has worked so well as a deterrent historically.

The wannabe dictator strikes again. The list of death penalty crimes can be expanded, maybe, but changing the procedures for imposing it will be much tougher, perhaps even requiring constitutional amendment.

[GoCubsGo]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

Good Lord, another well vetted brainstorm by the stable genius. Capital punishment has worked so well as a deterrent historically.

The wannabe dictator strikes again. The list of death penalty crimes can be expanded, maybe, but changing the procedures for imposing it will be much tougher, perhaps even requiring constitutional amendment.

In other words, ain't nothin' gonna happen.

[GoCubsGo]

Extreme Risk Laws

The Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence has been instrumental in the passage of Extreme Risk Laws — sometimes referred to as “red flag laws.” Extreme Risk Laws allow family members and law enforcement to petition a court to temporarily remove guns from individuals demonstrating behavioral risk factors for dangerousness. Extreme Risk Laws also prevent these individuals from purchasing additional guns.

Which States have Extreme Risk Laws?

As of April 2019, fifteen states and the District of Columbia have Extreme Risk-Style Laws: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington.



...

A couple of purple states, FL & CO, IN is the only red state. Repugs love gun violence.

After back to back shootings, Trump called for red flag laws. Here's what they are.

Dang, along with supporting universal background checks, Trump has gone liberal on the ammosexuals, thus creating a crisis for perpetually ovine Trumpettes. They shouldn’t fret, the lifelong cowardly Chickenhawk in Chief will flip-flop again after Faux Noise and/or the NRA scolds him.

And let us not forget this ding dong negated Obama's eo on mental health background checks....

[Whack9]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

Good Lord, another well vetted brainstorm by the stable genius. Capital punishment has worked so well as a deterrent historically.

Most of the shooters end up killing themselves, or at least go in expecting to be killed by the police.

I don't think the death penalty will phase them...

But when you're Donald J Trump, you've gotta at least pay lip service to the situation to look like you're doing something before you shrug it off, brush it under the rug, and go play another round of golf, I guess.

[Vrede too]

Most of the shooters end up killing themselves, or at least go in expecting to be killed by the police.

I don't think the death penalty will phase them...

But when you're Donald J Trump, you've gotta at least pay lip service to the situation to look like you're doing something before you shrug it off, brush it under the rug, and go play another round of golf, I guess.

Despite the ammosexual shrieks otherwise, for the same reason there’s no evidence whatsoever that shooters target locations because they are known to be gun-free.

Dr. Peter Langman, a clinical psychologist, and author of School Shooters: Understanding High School, College, and Adult Perpetrators, explains that many mass shooters go on a suicide mission – either by their own hand or by cop. In which case, armed security is never a deterrent “because they’re not trying to get away with it.”
School Shooters: Understanding High School, College, and Adult Perpetrators
https://schoolshooters.info/school-shooters-book

[GoCubsGo]

Most of the shooters end up killing themselves, or at least go in expecting to be killed by the police.

I don't think the death penalty will phase them...

But when you're Donald J Trump, you've gotta at least pay lip service to the situation to look like you're doing something before you shrug it off, brush it under the rug, and go play another round of golf, I guess.

Despite the ammosexual shrieks otherwise, for the same reason there’s no evidence whatsoever that shooters target locations because they are known to be gun-free.

Dr. Peter Langman, a clinical psychologist, and author of School Shooters: Understanding High School, College, and Adult Perpetrators, explains that many mass shooters go on a suicide mission – either by their own hand or by cop. In which case, armed security is never a deterrent “because they’re not trying to get away with it.”
School Shooters: Understanding High School, College, and Adult Perpetrators
https://schoolshooters.info/school-shooters-book

Bing Bing Bing....

And by the by, Commander N Numbnuts played golf while this was going down and the day after.
I wanna puke.

[Vrede too]

TV news: 94% of Americans favor the stronger background checks that Moscow Mitch is singlehandedly blocking.

[Whack9]

The Lt. Governor of Texas (I think) tried to play the "violent video game" angle like it's the year 2000.

A rebuttal I've seen elsewhere: if video games were to blame, South Korea would be worse than the US given the popularity of video games. Also, video games are popular in Europe, too.

Nah man, it's the vidya games. And probably that heavy metal rock n roll music, too. You know, that stuff that sounds like a bunch of toilets a flushin'. And them kids shootin' up with the marijuanas nowadays high on the devil's lettuce listening to that hippity hop music on their walk-men with their pants hangin' half way down their behinds.

Throw some bibles at 'em, hit 'em with the yard stick when they get to acting up in school room, and make them say their prayers right after pledge of allegiance every morning.

Amen. Problem solved.

[O Really]

The American response to anything that creates problems (or sometimes inconvenience, or sometimes imaginary problems) is to limit availability, restrict access, tax, license, or sometimes just make illegal. Except firearms. There is nothing I can think of that is believed to cause harm that America has ever just thrown up its collective hands and said "oh well." Except firearms. Implementation may be complex, but the answers aren't that hard. Unless you're getting paid/intimidated by NRA.

[1 CAT FAN]

The drug epidemic hasn't slowed down.