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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Yum!

Think how many millions of tons of edible peel has been wasted over the centuries. :problem:
Especially by the billions of monkeys all over the world.
:D Assholes.

At least they biodegrade the peels rather than landfill them. I'll also cut them some slack since they can't be trusted with a fork, and most monkeys are terrible cooks and some of them are fire hazards when they try.

Btw, banana peels keep well in a sealed container in the frig. I had mine for 2-3 weeks before I got around to cooking them and there wasn't a trace of mold.
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Avocado and spinach salad, fresh grilled Opah (first of the season), risotto, warmish baguette from the French Corner bakery.

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One note of caution when I read up on consumption of banana peels. At least one site stated that commercially grown bananas can have significant amounts of pesticides on their peels. Apparently it's just on the outer surface, not on the soft fruit inside. But it could make consumption of the banana peels a bit dodgy.

However I'm also noticing that my local Costco sells both regular and "organic" bananas. Presumably the organic variety is pesticide free. And it's not much more expensive ($2.30/bunch vs 1.80/bunch). And in some locations it's possible to grow bananas in the USA; one of my neighbors has a banana tree. No idea what variety or if the fruit is any good.

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Ulysses wrote:
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I buy organic, plus:
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Make this "pulled" banana peel recipe: Nadiya Hussain on Good Morning Britain!

... Banana peel recipe step-by-step

Step 1: Save your banana peels (two would be fine for this recipe) and wash them, Make sure all of the white inside has been removed. Clean with a spoon if there’s anything leftover inside....
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I seem to remember back in the late 60's something about banana peels being able to provide some sort of pyschoactive effect if they're smoked. I never tried it. After all, why go with a placebo when you can have the real thing?

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I seem to remember back in the late 60's something about banana peels being able to provide some sort of pyschoactive effect if they're smoked. I never tried it. After all, why go with a placebo when you can have the real thing?
Country Joe says that he started the rumor before one of his shows. Hoping to increase attendance he posted some signs that it would be available at the show. As coincidence goes, Donavan's Mellow Yellow came out the same day, leaving hippies all over California (SF I think) drying and smoking banana peels. News of this free drug spread faster (even to Alabama) than the news that it tasted bad and would not get you high.
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neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:29 am
I seem to remember back in the late 60's something about banana peels being able to provide some sort of pyschoactive effect if they're smoked. I never tried it. After all, why go with a placebo when you can have?
What if the real thing is a neoplacebo? :think:
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Country Joe says that he started the rumor before one of his shows. Hoping to increase attendance he posted some signs that it would be available at the show. As coincidence goes, Donavan's Mellow Yellow came out the same day, leaving hippies all over California (SF I think) drying and smoking banana peels. News of this free drug spread faster (even to Alabama) than the news that it tasted bad and would not get you high.
Did you try it?
Psychoactive effects of banana peels

There has been a widespread belief that banana peels contain a psychoactive substance, and that smoking them may produce a "high", or a sense of relaxation. This belief, which may be a rumor or urban legend, is often associated with the 1966 song "Mellow Yellow" by Donovan. A recipe for the extraction of the fictional chemical bananadine is found in The Anarchist Cookbook of 1971.
Bananadine

By the time I was old enough to experiment it was pretty well known that it had been a joke all along.
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Of course we tried it. Damn!
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:53 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:29 am
I seem to remember back in the late 60's something about banana peels being able to provide some sort of pyschoactive effect if they're smoked. I never tried it. After all, why go with a placebo when you can have?
What if the real thing is a neoplacebo? :think:
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Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:58 am
Country Joe says that he started the rumor before one of his shows. Hoping to increase attendance he posted some signs that it would be available at the show. As coincidence goes, Donavan's Mellow Yellow came out the same day, leaving hippies all over California (SF I think) drying and smoking banana peels. News of this free drug spread faster (even to Alabama) than the news that it tasted bad and would not get you high.
Did you try it?
Psychoactive effects of banana peels

There has been a widespread belief that banana peels contain a psychoactive substance, and that smoking them may produce a "high", or a sense of relaxation. This belief, which may be a rumor or urban legend, is often associated with the 1966 song "Mellow Yellow" by Donovan. A recipe for the extraction of the fictional chemical bananadine is found in The Anarchist Cookbook of 1971.
Bananadine

By the time I was old enough to experiment it was pretty well known that it had been a joke all along.
"In 1967, Country Joe McDonald, lead singer of Country Joe & the Fish, found a large banana previously used as part of decoration of a parade float. The band strapped the banana to a car and drove around the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood of San Francisco to promote their band.

During this afternoon, the band announced from a bull horn that smoking banana peels would induce a hallucinogenic response. Country Joe & the Fish also passed out banana peel joints to audience members at concerts."

https://gizmodo.com/why-hippies-thought ... ou-5946553

I don't know any idiots who did this.

"In later recipes, alcohol and the chemical use dichloromethane (a carcinogen often used to strip paint) are used in order to obtain crystals of bananadine. One could easily get a buzz by combining alcohol and dichloromethane — when those two chemicals are included in the recipe, the bananas are no longer necessary."
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Huh.

Who knew?

Paul McCartney played on Mellow Yellow which was really about vibrators.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellow_Yellow
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Why hippies thought smoking banana peels could get you high

The way I heard it was that it was always a prank played on straights and cops. I'm disappointed that hippies were so gullible.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:22 pm
Of course we tried it. Damn!
Ok, thanks for the info. I just remember hearing the rumor about it. Don't know anybody that actually did it, though. But glad you survived it.

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Why hippies thought smoking banana peels could get you high

The way I heard it was that it was always a prank played on straights and cops. I'm disappointed that hippies were so gullible.
No internet and we wanted to get high
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:25 pm
No internet and we wanted to get high
:thumbup: 8-) A few years later and I might have tried it.
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Well, I grew up next door to the Haight-Ashbury and never tried smoking bananas. Nor did anyone I knew. When I heard about it, it was pretty much dismissed as a joke.

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During the Vietnam War, Abbie Hoffman announced that the new high was banana peels taken rectally. So then FBI scientists stuffed banana peels up their asses to find out if this was true or not.

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Speaking of quack cures, I found this very informative wiki article:

List of unproven and disproven cancer treatments

A number of these cures may be familiar to you, since over the years they go a lot of publicity. And some of the chemical names are familiar to me from my biochemistry/biomedical background.

The most that can be said of any of them are those that not ingested or injected, but rather result in a better sense of well being on the part of the patient. And these are but a small fraction of the quack treatments listed.

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I am an expert on "cures" that are ingested and that "result in a better sense of well being on the part of the patient." Sometimes I feel so good I can scarcely believe it. And some cures are better than others. It just depends on how good you want to feel. Some patients feel better than others.

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Ulysses wrote:
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Well, I grew up next door to the Haight-Ashbury and never tried smoking bananas. Nor did anyone I knew. When I heard about it, it was pretty much dismissed as a joke.
See there, billy.pilgrim, Useless is better than you and always was. Never mind that he's told us many many times that he never really ran with the drug experimenting crowd, anyhow. He somehow osmosed the fumes of knowledge drifting over from The Haight. :roll:
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Vrede too wrote:
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Make this "pulled" banana peel recipe: Nadiya Hussain on Good Morning Britain!

Yum!

Think how many millions of tons of edible peel has been wasted over the centuries. :problem:
That worked so well as a “pulled banana” burger, I decided to tweak it.

Pork ribs with an equal volume of washed “pulled" banana peels slow cooked together in foil for several hours. Removed from foil, meat chopped, onion, garlic and BBQ sauce added, cooked on high for a bit.

Double Yum!
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