Afghanistan

[Leo Lyons]

Is he whining like a little snot about me again? Pitiful.

Nah. Just whinin' about a "little snot"; or a big slimey booger. You choose.
(p.s. you're not fooling anyone, you read it. :laughing-rolling: :violin: )

[Vrede too]

Is he whining like a little snot about me again? Pitiful.

[neoplacebo]

What Afghanistan needs is some Kardashians, suntan lotion, a couple dozen Afghan rock stars, a few Islamic gospel singers, twelve million pairs of hiking boots, and razors. This will fix it or at least provide a few years of confusion and some entertainment. Don't these people ever give up?

[1 CAT FAN]

I never posted about the groundwater levels anywhere.

We'll allow the identity of that someone, that got ran over by a bus, to continue to be unknown. That someone who posted the original article, may be along shortly cursing in pain.

In my post about the 1950's US activity in Afghanistan I said it was in the 1950's.
The principles of dam construction and irrigation systems is fundamentally the same as it was centuries ago; materials science has changed, along with methods of construction but irrigation is still moving water from one place to another, usually in a confined channel. Yes, I know the Morrison Knudsen Company history.

The fundamentals of dams may be the same, but the advancement of drill technology, and proceeding deeper has steadily increased. They only had a mud rotary drill in the 1950's. With modern advancements in drilling technology, drilling deeper is limitless.

‘NO SERIOUS ATTENTION’
People who can afford it usually dig a well rather than depending on the city’s limited water system, but they are having to go ever deeper to reach the receding water.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afgh ... SKBN1670FO

So, there's water underneath Afghanistan too. They just have to go deeper to get to it.

[neoplacebo]

water dissolving and water removing there is water at the bottom of the ocean under the water, carry the water remove the water at the bottom of the ocean letting the days go by, let the water hold me down letting the days go by, water flowing underground
into the blue again after the money's gone once in a lifetime water flowing underground and you may ask yourself what is that beautiful house? and you may ask yourself where does that highway go to? and you may ask yourself am I right? am I wrong? and you may say to yourself "my god what have I done?" same as it ever was same as it ever was

[1 CAT FAN]

water dissolving and water removing there is water at the bottom of the ocean under the water, carry the water remove the water at the bottom of the ocean letting the days go by, let the water hold me down letting the days go by, water flowing underground
into the blue again after the money's gone once in a lifetime water flowing underground and you may ask yourself what is that beautiful house? and you may ask yourself where does that highway go to? and you may ask yourself am I right? am I wrong? and you may say to yourself "my god what have I done?" same as it ever was same as it ever was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IsSpAOD6K8

"Talking Heads" has lyrics with a fascination with fire too.

Gonna burst into flame
Watch out you might get what you're after
Boom babies strange but not a stranger
I'm an ordinary guy
Burning down the house
Hold tight wait till the party's over
Hold tight We're in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house
Here's your ticket pack your bag
Time for jumpin' overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far,
Maybe you know where you are
Fightin' fire with fire
All wet! Hey you might need a raincoat
Shakedown! Dreams walking in broad daylight
Three hun-dred six-ty five de-grees
Burning down the house
It was once upon a place sometimes I listen to myself
Gonna come in first place
People on their way to work and baby what did you except
Gonna burst into flame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U

[neoplacebo]

I never posted about the groundwater levels anywhere.

We'll allow the identity of that someone, that got ran over by a bus, to continue to be unknown. That someone who posted the original article, may be along shortly cursing in pain.

In my post about the 1950's US activity in Afghanistan I said it was in the 1950's.
The principles of dam construction and irrigation systems is fundamentally the same as it was centuries ago; materials science has changed, along with methods of construction but irrigation is still moving water from one place to another, usually in a confined channel. Yes, I know the Morrison Knudsen Company history.

The fundamentals of dams may be the same, but the advancement of drill technology, and proceeding deeper has steadily increased. They only had a mud rotary drill in the 1950's. With modern advancements in drilling technology, drilling deeper is limitless.

‘NO SERIOUS ATTENTION’
People who can afford it usually dig a well rather than depending on the city’s limited water system, but they are having to go ever deeper to reach the receding water.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afgh ... SKBN1670FO

So, there's water underneath Afghanistan too. They just have to go deeper to get to it.

You seem to be asserting that there is a contiguous water table at various depths covering the entire planet. Draw yourself a flat map of the world and show your water table at whatever depths you choose; just make it a contiguous ribbon of water that appears at varying depths everywhere on the planet. Now realize if this were true, everything above that water table would spin off into space because there would be nothing anchoring any of the land to the planet itself.

[1 CAT FAN]

Depends on how far you have the desire to dig.

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/ ... /75797.htm

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /10368943/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... he-oceans/

[neoplacebo]

:wtf: :yawn: :think: :crazy:

[Vrede too]

Center for Constitutional Rights Alleges U.S. Interference Into International Criminal Court

Familiar story by now: War crimes by the US and the lengths that America will go to with cover-ups.

[neoplacebo]

Not only that, but if the cover up doesn't work, there's the pardon. Pardon me all over the place. Pardon me, is my eye hurting your elbow?

[Vrede too]

I appreciate the effort. We should have left “The Graveyard of Empires” long ago, any place is a good place to talk peace, and any date is a good date to talk peace. The 9/11 dead probably wouldn't want to be exploited on behalf of hate.

However, to allow the talks to become so public, to have so alienated the govt of Afghanistan, to see the whole thing spectacularly collapse and to then tell us that it spectacularly collapsed highlights the utter incompetence of Dolt .45’s foreign policy.

[Vrede too]

Anger grows at civilian deaths by US, Afghan forces

This is George Orwell’s perpetual war.
How much money wasted?
Chelsea Manning is a hero.
We are still war criminals in Afghanistan.
Kids will soon be going there to kill and die that weren’t yet born when 9/11 happened.
It is and always will be “The Graveyard of Empires”.

[neoplacebo]

Anger grows at civilian deaths by US, Afghan forces

This is George Orwell’s perpetual war.
How much money wasted?
Chelsea Manning is a hero.
We are still war criminals in Afghanistan.
Kids will soon be going there to kill and die that weren’t yet born when 9/11 happened.
It is and always will be “The Graveyard of Empires”.

Yeah, looks like the military historians would have come out twenty years ago and said to the Generals and Admirals "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you" and pointed out that every entry into that place from Alexander the Great on down has met failure.

[O Really]

Yeah, looks like the military historians would have come out twenty years ago and said to the Generals and Admirals "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you" and pointed out that every entry into that place from Alexander the Great on down has met failure.

Oh, they did - and were summarily ignored.

[Vrede too]

Yeah, looks like the military historians would have come out twenty years ago and said to the Generals and Admirals "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you" and pointed out that every entry into that place from Alexander the Great on down has met failure.

Oh, they did - and were summarily ignored.

To be fair, I did not spend much time worrying about our invasion. I thought that it wouldn't end well, but knew that it was inevitable after 9/11 and suspect that our real POTUS, Al Gore, would have done something similar. Otoh, I think the Iraq distraction and Afghan occupation were and are catastrophes.

[O Really]

Yeah, the original crusade to beat up the Taliban was probably - even in retrospect - not a bad thing to do. The rest of George and Dick's Excellent Adventure, not so much.

[GoCubsGo]

Yeah, looks like the military historians would have come out twenty years ago and said to the Generals and Admirals "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you" and pointed out that every entry into that place from Alexander the Great on down has met failure.

Oh, they did - and were summarily ignored.

To be fair, I did not spend much time worrying about our invasion. I thought that it wouldn't end well, but knew that it was inevitable after 9/11 and suspect that our real POTUS, Al Gore, would have done something similar. Otoh, I think the Iraq distraction and Afghan occupation were and are catastrophes.

Always wondered if Gore would have ignored the intelligence warnings like Shrub.

[billy.pilgrim]

Yeah, looks like the military historians would have come out twenty years ago and said to the Generals and Admirals "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you" and pointed out that every entry into that place from Alexander the Great on down has met failure.

Oh, they did - and were summarily ignored.

To be fair, I did not spend much time worrying about our invasion. I thought that it wouldn't end well, but knew that it was inevitable after 9/11 and suspect that our real POTUS, Al Gore, would have done something similar. Otoh, I think the Iraq distraction and Afghan occupation were and are catastrophes.

Always wondered if Gore would have ignored the intelligence warnings like Shrub.

I always like to imagine that Gore would have been able to tell the difference between Afghanistan and Al-Qaeda and sent in a couple hundred special ops to deal with the major players.

[GoCubsGo]

Yeah, looks like the military historians would have come out twenty years ago and said to the Generals and Admirals "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you" and pointed out that every entry into that place from Alexander the Great on down has met failure.

Oh, they did - and were summarily ignored.

To be fair, I did not spend much time worrying about our invasion. I thought that it wouldn't end well, but knew that it was inevitable after 9/11 and suspect that our real POTUS, Al Gore, would have done something similar. Otoh, I think the Iraq distraction and Afghan occupation were and are catastrophes.

Always wondered if Gore would have ignored the intelligence warnings like Shrub.

I always like to imagine that Gore would have been able to tell the difference between Afghanistan and Al-Qaeda and sent in a couple hundred special ops to deal with the major players.

That too.