Sadly, you may be right.neoplacebo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:46 pmYeah, early American aristocracy was pretty much like the European version; they were all tangentially, or in some cases incestually, related. And some of them were generally receptive to the concepts of equality while others rather enjoyed being, and remaining, members of the elite. Other than the inbreeding, it's much the same today.Ulysses wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:18 pmBeen reading a Jefferson bio. The name Randolph sounds familiar in that context.neoplacebo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:09 pmI came across this quote that headed a chapter in a Hunter Thompson book I was reading today and it immediately reminded me of trump.
"He is a man of splendid abilities, but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight." John Randolph 1773-1833
John was an early right wing nutjob, though.....another of his quotes; "I am an aristocrat. I love liberty. I hate equality." He insisted on being called John Randolph of Roanoke and is related to Pocahontas.
Update: there were so many Randolphs that they had to be known by their place of residence. John Randolph of Tazewell Hall was a cousin of Thomas Jefferson and also a Loyalist. He emigrated to England but he and Thomas remained on good terms.
John Randolph of Roanoke, another Jefferson cousin, was a supporter of American independence. However the Jefferson bio is silent about his attitude towards blacks. It does say that he broke with Jefferson in 1806: "Once an ally, always an eccentric, John Randolph of Roanoke broke with Jefferson in March 1806 [Jefferson was President then]." Apparently Randolph felt Jefferson was too moderate and willing to compromise with the Federalists.
Jefferson's mother apparently was a Randolph as well. Although my eyes started to blur trying to figure out all the heredity etc. Suffice to say there were a lot of Randolphs running around Virginia in those days.
IDK