Your OP gave zero indication that there was more to the article, not even a "...". Why are you always blaming others for your screw ups?
the same damn thing happened six years ago... in same state of Oklahoma... And as I recall, they used the same damn euthanasia formula that failed six years ago...
If it was important why didn't you quote it? Why are you always blaming others for your screw ups?
The REAL answer to all this is to do away with the death penalty entirely.
How interesting none of you well intentioned folks thought of that.
We've discussed the death penalty here many times (I oppose it). Plus, discussion of incompetence in practice says NOTHING about whether folks feel there ought to be the practice at all. You sure are desperate to feel superior that you make such unfounded assumptions about GoCubsGo and O Really. Why are you so insecure?
PS-I fully expect to be told to repost this in the Death Penalty thread.
There is none, paranoid crybaby. However, it is interesting that your choice to create such a specific title for what could have been a long-lived general topic will ensure that this thread will be quickly forgotten. Opps.
PS-I fully expect to be told to repost this in the Death Penalty thread.
There is none, paranoid crybaby. However, it is interesting that your choice to create such a specific title for what could have been a long-lived general topic will ensure that this thread will be quickly forgotten. Opps.
All very good and correct points.
If this thread is to have long term legs Ulysses should edit the title to The Capital Punishment thread or some such.
Too late, the 10 hour window for editing has elapsed. Useless is a screw up, again.
Thanks for the complement and full quote, wussy Useless can't hide his many flubs behind ignore.
Yeah, I didn't bother to look up where the hypothetical Ulysses would spend personal eternity waiting for his (maybe) execution. Pelican Bay was just on my mind because I had been reading about it. We'll be in Crescent City in a few days and it's so fun to have a supermax down the road. Of course, they've never reported any actual escapes, but it's still not likely a good idea to pick up hitchhikers wearing striped suits.
Yeah, I didn't bother to look up where the hypothetical Ulysses would spend personal eternity waiting for his (maybe) execution. Pelican Bay was just on my mind because I had been reading about it. We'll be in Crescent City in a few days and it's so fun to have a supermax down the road. Of course, they've never reported any actual escapes, but it's still not likely a good idea to pick up hitchhikers wearing striped suits.
Of course I don't see that happening in my lifetime. So I will (continue to) refrain from any activity that can result in the death penalty. I'm smart that way.
No worries. There are hundreds of things you're more like to die from than a "death penalty". Of course, the time spent in Pelican Bay waiting for the (maybe) death penalty probably wouldn't be pleasant. Average time from sentencing to execution is pushing 20 years. Lotta stuff will kill you in less time.
Or, hire a middle school kid to explain your own posts to you. You're not "smart" in any way.
For me personally, I'd find a life in San Quentin or Pelican Bay way worse than getting killed, and would volunteer to take the hemlock if given the choice. But there's no point in pretending that US society "values life" when it happily allows prisoner's conditions and treatment.
Hell's bells!
I spent 30 minutes carefully choosing my words to reply to this and some f**k up happened when I hit 'submit'
and everything I typed was deleted. Ain't doing it over.
Bottom line, given what I've seen in my lifetime, I respectfully disagree with you.
There's some real trash out there that honestly deserve to die,
the state, which consists or people we elect to enforce laws has an obligation to rid society of it's garbage.
For me personally, I'd find a life in San Quentin or Pelican Bay way worse than getting killed, and would volunteer to take the hemlock if given the choice. But there's no point in pretending that US society "values life" when it happily allows prisoner's conditions and treatment.
Yeah, same here. I'd rather be dead than spend "life" in prison. And as for this botched execution, I've more than once been given a shot on a table and told to relax. The next thing I knew, I was waking up hours later. They could have all gone on vacation and I'd never have made it. I don't know what the stuff was...sodium pentothal?....anyway, it sure could have killed me if they gave me a typical neo dose and just walked away. No need for two other drugs unless it's just a sick way to make more money for somebody.
Hell's bells!
I spent 30 minutes carefully choosing my words to reply to this and some f**k up happened when I hit 'submit'
and everything I typed was deleted. Ain't doing it over.
Bottom line, given what I've seen in my lifetime, I respectfully disagree with you.
There's some real trash out there that honestly deserve to die,
the state, which consists or people we elect to enforce laws has an obligation to rid society of it's garbage.
Probably asked you to review your post as someone posted before you hit submit. (Just happened on this post as Neo posted while I was writing! )
It's happened to me when I wasn't paying attention.
Don't really disagree with you, though as has been said putting some of these people out of everyone's misery is actually a favor to them. Someone should figure out a litmus test, those that want to die should get life in a rat infested prison and those that are too chickenshit to die (Gary Michael Hilton) given the needle. Win, win.
Eamus Catuli~AC 000000000101010202020303010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.
Hell's bells!
I spent 30 minutes carefully choosing my words to reply to this and some f**k up happened when I hit 'submit'
and everything I typed was deleted. Ain't doing it over.
Bottom line, given what I've seen in my lifetime, I respectfully disagree with you.
There's some real trash out there that honestly deserve to die,
the state, which consists or people we elect to enforce laws has an obligation to rid society of it's garbage.
Probably asked you to review your post as someone posted before you hit submit. (Just happened on this post as Neo posted while I was writing! )
It's happened to me when I wasn't paying attention.
Don't really disagree with you, though as has been said putting some of these people out of everyone's misery is actually a favor to them. Someone should figure out a litmus test, those that want to die should get life in a rat infested prison and those that are too chickenshit to die (Gary Michael Hilton) given the needle. Win, win.
I agree. Some folks need to die. Hell, more than a few of them WANT to die. These are the kind that are beyond redemption, either by drugs, faith, sticks, or anything else. The mental health aspect comes into it but even so, all that brings is drug induced stupor and futile efforts. Some of these people are really no better than animals; they hold no normal human sensibilities. Why that is the case doesn't really matter.
Hell's bells!
I spent 30 minutes carefully choosing my words to reply to this and some f**k up happened when I hit 'submit'
and everything I typed was deleted. Ain't doing it over.
Bummer.
Bottom line, given what I've seen in my lifetime, I respectfully disagree with you.
There's some real trash out there that honestly deserve to die,
I agree and would kill some of them myself given a chance.
the state, which consists or people we elect to enforce laws has an obligation to rid society of it's garbage.
I disagree. I think it diminishes society to lower it to my vengeful level.
Remember, the failed prohibition that you enforced created some of the garbage that you saw. Should we execute co-conspirators like you?
the state, which consists or people we elect to enforce laws has an obligation to rid society of it's garbage.
I disagree. I think it diminishes society to lower it to my vengeful level
Remember, the failed prohibition that you enforced created some of the garbage that you saw. Should we execute co-conspirators like you?
There is no vengeance in doling out just desserts when an innocent life is taken by another.
Believe it or not, drugs are not the leading cause of what "created some of the garbage that (I) saw"
although money, greed, and infidelity rank right up there with drugs being major causes of murder.
Duly-elected (honest) officials are not co-conspirators in doling out punishment.
I've met people who would just as soon slice you to ribbons than look at you twice because you disagreed
with them or said something they didn't like.
There is no vengeance in doling out just desserts when an innocent life is taken by another.
Believe it or not, drugs are not the leading cause of what "created some of the garbage that (I) saw"
although money, greed, and infidelity rank right up there with drugs being major causes of murder.
Duly-elected (honest) officials are not co-conspirators in doling out punishment.
I've met people who would just as soon slice you to ribbons than look at you twice because you disagreed
with them or said something they didn't like.
I did post "some of the garbage". I don't blame prohibitionists for most of the rare violence that is truly caused by drugs. However, far more violence is caused by the drug black marketplace that prohibition creates, just as happened with alcohol in the 1920-30s. So, those "money, greed" murders are definitely on those that fashioned and sustained drug prohibition.
I agree. Some folks need to die. Hell, more than a few of them WANT to die. These are the kind that are beyond redemption, either by drugs, faith, sticks, or anything else. The mental health aspect comes into it but even so, all that brings is drug induced stupor and futile efforts. Some of these people are really no better than animals; they hold no normal human sensibilities. Why that is the case doesn't really matter.
Well, I don't agree. I believe the death penalty is an abomination. Even if the law says it's OK. It makes the government that does the killing no better than whoever it is killing.
I would make an exception for instances such as war, or self-defence. But neither of those are death penalty situations.
I agree. Some folks need to die. Hell, more than a few of them WANT to die. These are the kind that are beyond redemption, either by drugs, faith, sticks, or anything else. The mental health aspect comes into it but even so, all that brings is drug induced stupor and futile efforts. Some of these people are really no better than animals; they hold no normal human sensibilities. Why that is the case doesn't really matter.
Well, I don't agree. I believe the death penalty is an abomination. Even if the law says it's OK. It makes the government that does the killing no better than whoever it is killing.
I would make an exception for instances such as war, or self-defence. But neither of those are death penalty situations.
Nope. There's no difference in the government henchman killing one guy who's a menace to society and the government's army killing 1,000 Taliban.
Self defence is a bit different, but that is not, as far as I know, premeditated.
There is no vengeance in doling out just desserts when an innocent life is taken by another.
Believe it or not, drugs are not the leading cause of what "created some of the garbage that (I) saw"
although money, greed, and infidelity rank right up there with drugs being major causes of murder.
Duly-elected (honest) officials are not co-conspirators in doling out punishment.
I've met people who would just as soon slice you to ribbons than look at you twice because you disagreed
with them or said something they didn't like.
I did post "some of the garbage". I don't blame prohibitionists for most of the rare violence that is truly caused by drugs. However, far more violence is caused by the drug black marketplace that prohibition creates, just as happened with alcohol in the 1920-30s. So, those "money, greed" murders are definitely on those that fashioned and sustained drug prohibition.
Where would law enforcement be without their drug war funding?
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
They just don't want truckloads of negative PR from an activity with no profit.
