The LEO thread

[O Really]

It was probably the police unions that created the image of the police officer as brave selfless knight in silver (or at least blue-now black) armour. In negotiations with police and firefighters unions, I've noticed they each use each other to try to say they have more hazard, need better equipment, and have only cold towels in their gym compared to the (other department) that gets warmed towels. But they rarely compare their own conditions/circumstances to other city departments, as they typically already have better stuff than anybody else.

[Vrede too]

Want to guess what the biggest cause of LEO deaths on the job?

Spoiler:

Traffic Accident

Doh.

Want to guess the biggest cause of taxi driver deaths on the job?

Spoiler:

Violent Attacks

Got it.

Spoiler:

Does this mean that cabbies are better drivers?

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It was probably the police unions that created the image of the police officer as brave selfless knight in silver (or at least blue-now black) armour. In negotiations with police and firefighters unions, I've noticed they each use each other to try to say they have more hazard, need better equipment, and have only cold towels in their gym compared to the (other department) that gets warmed towels. But they rarely compare their own conditions/circumstances to other city departments, as they typically already have better stuff than anybody else.

You left out medical ambulance rescue service. You do know the turn over rate for these jobs is extremely high. Who wants to stay in a dangerous profession with low pay and serve a ungrateful, disrespectful society.

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... quite a few jobs involve greater danger, and people in those jobs go to work every day not knowing if they'll make it home safely....

When a fisher or a logger dies on the job, it doesn't get national headlines and the taxpayers don't pay for other fishers or loggers to attend their funeral from 2 states away.

Great show of respect by some, others not so much.
Shameful, making a profession a competition.
Thank You, Loggers, Fishers and Garbage men for your service.

[O Really]

Lots of people do heroic things at work and off work. Just wearing a badge at work doesn't automatically grant hero status.

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See Vrede, I didn't delete my response.

Apprehended the right way.

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Lots of people do heroic things at work and off work. Just wearing a badge at work doesn't automatically grant hero status.

Just wearing it at the wrong time, aye, O Really?

[neoplacebo]

Your suspicion is correct. White Arkansas redneck gets out of his car and immediately starts shooting at the cop; cop shoots back. Redneck drives away.

You forgot about him throwing out his human shield.

I didn't forget about it; just didn't mention it. It was irrelevant to your point (she wasn't a cop and was not shooting at a cop). Besides, if I had characterised his letting his female companion out of the car as an act of chivalry, you would have disparaged it.

[neoplacebo]

Want to guess what the biggest cause of LEO deaths on the job?

Spoiler:

Traffic Accident

Want to guess the biggest cause of taxi driver deaths on the job?

Spoiler:

Violent Attacks

Before looking I will guess car crashes in both cases.

[O Really]

Want to guess what the biggest cause of LEO deaths on the job?

Spoiler:

Traffic Accident

Want to guess the biggest cause of taxi driver deaths on the job?

Spoiler:

Violent Attacks

Before looking I will guess car crashes in both cases.

Half right.

[O Really]

Lots of people do heroic things at work and off work. Just wearing a badge at work doesn't automatically grant hero status.

Just wearing it at the wrong time, aye, O Really?

That was an unfortunate, tragic, and criminal act that apparently will be appropriately punished. But I'll bet there were other people not wearing badges who got shot and killed that day - probably in the same greater Houston area. Probably I missed the pile of flowers and bears for them and the $80K gofundme for their funerals. It would appear that in opposite to "wearing it at the wrong time" that wearing the badge was pretty profitable for his family, as compared to some of the other shooting victims.

(BTW, your Canadian is awful. It's spelled "eh" and pronounced long "a". What you wrote is pronounced "eye". Should be clear now, eh?)

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Your suspicion is correct. White Arkansas redneck gets out of his car and immediately starts shooting at the cop; cop shoots back. Redneck drives away.

You forgot about him throwing out his human shield.

I didn't forget about it; just didn't mention it. It was irrelevant to your point (she wasn't a cop and was not shooting at a cop). Besides, if I had characterised his letting his female companion out of the car as an act of chivalry, you would have disparaged it.

No worries, Neo, the shooter was later apprehended. The diversionary tactic was short lived.

[Vrede too]

Brandon Theesfeld: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Brandon Theesfeld has been identified as the suspect in the murder of his 21-year-old University of Mississippi classmate Alexandria “Ally” Kostial, according to police....

Photos from his arrest in Memphis show several officers surrounding his Dodge Ram pickup truck that was parked at a gas pump....

According to Fox 13 Memphis, investigators tracked Theesfeld to the gas station in South Memphis using his cellphone and credit card activity. He was spotted entering the store at the station wearing an Ole Miss shirt....

According to his Facebook page, Brandon Austin Theesfeld is from Fort Worth, Texas. Theesfeld says on Facebook that he graduated in 2016 from Fort Worth Country Day School, but a classmate tells Heavy that Theesfeld actually graduated from San Marcos Academy, a private Baptist boarding school about 3 and a half hours south of Fort Worth....

Theesfeld was a business student ...

A photo on a Facebook page belonging to his father, Daniel Theesfeld, shows Brandon Theesfeld shooting a gun. His father captioned the photo, “My son Brandon Theesfeld Gun tactile expert. I had more fun than I say.”

"tactile"?

Theesfeld appears to have been in the ROTC program at San Marcos Academy.

His father, Daniel Theesfeld, is a doctor in the Fort Worth area, who owns and operates the Pain Management Center of Texas, according to his Facebook page....

An ammosexual doctor that spells it "tactile"?

Ravita, who is a student journalist at Ole Miss, was also one of Theesfeld’s freshman year dormmates. He told KMOV-TV that Theesfeld was “arrogant and misogynistic.” He added, “I’m not going to sugar coat it, he was pretty much a daddy’s boy type, constantly had to reference his father’s money, how his dad could get him out of anything, just that attitude all the time. Any type of vulgar comment he could say, any type of rude comment to anybody in our dorm, any of the women.” ...

3. Theesfeld Was Active on Twitter After Kostial Was Found Dead, Tweeting About His Pick for the Song of the Summer

... Theesfeld’s Facebook page provides few details about him. Other than photos, his one public post is from August 2017, when he shared a post by the “Our State Flag Foundation” that was defending a Confederate statue on the University of Mississippi campus....

Confederate monuments: Ole Miss is teaching the South a valuable lesson on history

I may have to start rooting for it some....

http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... iss#p88653

Even not counting the murder charge he sounds like a real winner, doesn't he?

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Another diversion, aye, Vrede?



Desperate animals will try anything.

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This one just doesn't give a crap. No diversion needed.

[neoplacebo]

Your suspicion is correct. White Arkansas redneck gets out of his car and immediately starts shooting at the cop; cop shoots back. Redneck drives away.

You forgot about him throwing out his human shield.

I didn't forget about it; just didn't mention it. It was irrelevant to your point (she wasn't a cop and was not shooting at a cop). Besides, if I had characterised his letting his female companion out of the car as an act of chivalry, you would have disparaged it.

No worries, Neo, the shooter was later apprehended. The diversionary tactic was short lived.

Yeah, I saw this story when it happened maybe a year ago. I had no doubt the criminal would be caught; lots of time to get the plate number just from looking at the video. Letting the girl out of the car was not a "diversionary tactic" ; he stopped and let her out and then kept on driving. How is that a diversionary tactic? Sounds to me like chivalry. You really are fucked up

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The stranded passenger was very cooperative while the shooter got away, temporarily. Most likely he’s still in prison performing a life changing event for his cell mates.

[Vrede too]

... You really are fucked up

[neoplacebo]

The stranded passenger was very cooperative while the shooter got away, temporarily. Most likely he’s still in prison performing a life changing event for his cell mates.

You're absolutely goddam right; she was very cooperative; mostly because the cop turned his attention to her......hands up.....down on your knees....all that shit when she was obviously no threat and was even trying to tell the cop she didn't know her friend would go over the high side. Do you consider that officer's action in that instance to be anything other than panic and confusion? I don't. He didn't pursue the guy who shot at him. I sure as hell would. But you see this in a sort of warped type of way.

[Vrede too]

You're absolutely goddam right; she was very cooperative; mostly because the cop turned his attention to her......hands up.....down on your knees....all that shit when she was obviously no threat and was even trying to tell the cop she didn't know her friend would go over the high side. Do you consider that officer's action in that instance to be anything other than panic and confusion? I don't. He didn't pursue the guy who shot at him. I sure as hell would. But you see this in a sort of warped type of way.

Wait a second, if you had the choice between chasing a guy who just shot at you or detaining an unarmed woman that's obviously no threat with no car chase, and you're going to get paid, get donuts and get called a 'hero' either way, which would you really choose?