Surviving a second Trump admin

[Supsalemgr]

Consider this. The Trump administration is desiring for this to get to SCOTUS quickly just for guidance as to which direction to go legislatively. Does any change have to be by amendment or just a law?

Seriously?

They can ask any second grader.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


The clause's meaning with regard to a child of immigrants was tested in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898).[49] The Supreme Court held that under the Fourteenth Amendment, a man born within the United States to Chinese citizens who have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying out business in the United States—and whose parents were not employed in a diplomatic or other official capacity by a foreign power—was a citizen of the United States. Subsequent decisions have applied the principle to the children of foreign nationals of non-Chinese descent.[

Why do you respond "seriously?" when it is a valid question? SCOTUS always provides guidance as to how a remedy should be addressed. I agree it is a Hail Mary for anything other than the amendment process.

[O Really]

Maybe Trump could "inquire" as to what's needed to void the Second Amendment, which is substantially less clear and precise than the 14th. Maybe some President might just issue an Executive Order proclaiming that the "not" doesn't really mean "not" and rights "shall be infringed." Same principle.

[O Really]

US citizens should be ashamed.

As Donald Trump begins to roll out his plans for the “largest deportation operation in history,” Mexico, the country with the highest number of unauthorized citizens living in the US — some 4 million people — is preparing to welcome back thousands of deportees. Mexico plans to send anyone from elsewhere back to their home countries.
The initiative, called “Mexico Embraces You,” aims to build nine migrant reception centers along the US border, and employ all 34 federal agencies and 16 state governments to repatriate and resettle returnees. The program intends to enroll people in pensions, paid apprenticeships, and other social welfare initiatives, and to distribute cash cards worth about $100 each. It will also bus people back to their hometowns.

https://www.gzeromedia.com/news/watchin ... portations

[GoCubsGo]

Maybe Trump could "inquire" as to what's needed to void the Second Amendment, which is substantially less clear and precise than the 14th. Maybe some President might just issue an Executive Order proclaiming that the "not" doesn't really mean "not" and rights "shall be infringed." Same principle.

The amendment is clear.

The Supreme Court is clear.

Legislation cannot trump the constitution.

The problem is there are certain people who just don't like it and seem to have no problem trying to subvert the constitution because they can.

[O Really]

The problem is there are certain people who just don't like it and seem to have no problem trying to subvert the constitution because they can.

And people keep "reporting" it as if it matters. In the "news" some Texas critter introduces a bill for an amendment. It's reported as if there's some merit in doing so. But consider - the chances of getting that bill passed are negligible, but if it was it would take 38 states ratifying to enact. There are at least 15 reliably blue states that wouldn't pass such an amendment even if Hell froze over. Introducing that bill is about as meaningful as one that prohibits the high tide coming in to infringe on private property, yet there it is ...

A group of congressional Republicans introduced a bill on Thursday that they said would codify President Donald Trump’s birthright executive order that ends birthright citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants.

Rep. Brian Rabin (R-TX) led the lawmakers in the announcement of the Birthright Citizenship Act. They said the bill is intended to restore the 14th Amendment to its original purpose and “end the misuse of birthright citizenship.”

Now they'll send out stuff to their suckers voters bragging about what the "did". A more worthwhile report would be on what they had for lunch.

[GoCubsGo]

And then there's this one.


New GOP bill would let Trump (but not Obama) run for a third term


Last month, Steve Bannon talked up the idea of Trump running again in 2028 — he suggested it might be constitutionally permissible, despite the plain language of the 22nd Amendment — and Fox News host Trey Gowdy, a former Republican member of Congress, had similar comments on the air.



We live in strange times.

[O Really]

Well, certainly I wouldn't want Trump again (if he were even still alive and sentient) but really, otherwise I wouldn't object to restricting a president to two consecutive terms, and let them have another go at it later.

[Supsalemgr]

US citizens should be ashamed.

As Donald Trump begins to roll out his plans for the “largest deportation operation in history,” Mexico, the country with the highest number of unauthorized citizens living in the US — some 4 million people — is preparing to welcome back thousands of deportees. Mexico plans to send anyone from elsewhere back to their home countries.
The initiative, called “Mexico Embraces You,” aims to build nine migrant reception centers along the US border, and employ all 34 federal agencies and 16 state governments to repatriate and resettle returnees. The program intends to enroll people in pensions, paid apprenticeships, and other social welfare initiatives, and to distribute cash cards worth about $100 each. It will also bus people back to their hometowns.

https://www.gzeromedia.com/news/watchin ... portations

Sounds like Mexico is establishing their own "mass deportation" program.

[Vrede too]

And people keep "reporting" it as if it matters. In the "news" some Texas critter introduces a bill for an amendment. It's reported as if there's some merit in doing so. But consider - the chances of getting that bill passed are negligible, but if it was it would take 38 states ratifying to enact. There are at least 15 reliably blue states that wouldn't pass such an amendment even if Hell froze over....

... The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention....

With our current Congress an amendment will never make it to the states for ratification, and a constitutional convention is very very unlikely for the reason you cite. It's just pandering RepuQs wasting our time and money in order to get campaign cash.

[Supsalemgr]

Agree that any amendment to the Constitution is very unlikely in the foreseeable future. That was the intent of the founders. I am continually amazed at the wisdom of the founders that they knew there would be foolish notions in the future from all sides.

[Vrede too]

Agree that any amendment to the Constitution is very unlikely in the foreseeable future. That was the intent of the founders. I am continually amazed at the wisdom of the founders that they knew there would be foolish notions in the future from all sides.

Do you agree that the 14th is clear, that birthright citizenship cannot be ended by EO or law, and that MAGA is just running a scam?

[GoCubsGo]

Agree that any amendment to the Constitution is very unlikely in the foreseeable future. That was the intent of the founders. I am continually amazed at the wisdom of the founders that they knew there would be foolish notions in the future from all sides.

Do you agree that the 14th is clear, that birthright citizenship cannot be ended by EO or law, and that MAGA is just running a scam?

Doubtful.

I'm half surprised he wasn't standing by the side of the road bowing and waving at his messiah today.

[Vrede too]

I'm half surprised he wasn't standing by the side of the road bowing and waving at his messiah today.

CA disaster aid is conditional, NC disaster aid is not. DonOLD is a partisan pig who hates Americans, including the many RepuQ disaster victims in CA.

[GoCubsGo]

I'm half surprised he wasn't standing by the side of the road bowing and waving at his messiah today.

CA disaster aid is conditional, NC disaster aid is not. DonOLD is a partisan pig who hates Americans, including the many RepuQ disaster victims in CA.

Everything he does is transactional.

I bet he's never done a selfless thing in his life.

[Supsalemgr]

Agree that any amendment to the Constitution is very unlikely in the foreseeable future. That was the intent of the founders. I am continually amazed at the wisdom of the founders that they knew there would be foolish notions in the future from all sides.

Do you agree that the 14th is clear, that birthright citizenship cannot be ended by EO or law, and that MAGA is just running a scam?

Based on how this has been the standard for many years I do believe any change should be by amendment. As I stated previously, the idea of a law change was a "Hail Mary".

[Vrede too]

This term's Hope Hicks?

One of them.

Who is Karoline Leavitt, the youngest-ever White House press secretary?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/13 ... 209285.jpg

Trump WH Press Secretary took hundreds of thousands of dollars in illegal campaign contributions

Karoline Leavitt is serving as the White House Press Secretary to a president who launched a crypto scheme mere days before entering the office. A new report from NOTUS revealed that the 27-year-old is no stranger to the grifty side of politics.

The report shared that Leavitt hid nearly $300,000 in campaign debt from her failed 2022 congressional run. Leavitt took a job as the national press secretary for Trump’s 2024 campaign last year.

Figures. Who better to be the public face of a criminal admin* than a criminal?

Days after taking office as a member of the Trump administration, Leavitt’s congressional campaign made changes to 17 financial reports filed with the Federal Election Commission, nearly tripling the reported amount of debt that her failed bid owed....

Coverup. Not long ago this would have been a career killer. Probably won't be with DonOLD and the MAGA GQP cult.

[Vrede too]

Do you agree that the 14th is clear, that birthright citizenship cannot be ended by EO or law, and that MAGA is just running a scam?

Based on how this has been the standard for many years I do believe any change should be by amendment. As I stated previously, the idea of a law change was a "Hail Mary".

Kudos What do you think of this?

Trump fires 17 independent inspectors general at federal agencies, source says

... The dismissals appeared to violate federal law, which requires the president to give both houses of Congress reasons for the dismissals 30 days in advance.

Not even a week. Figures, the DonOLD criminal enterprise continues. What part of 'illegal' does he not understand?

... The Washington Post, which was first to report the dismissals, said most were appointees from Trump's 2017-2021 first term.

So, DonOLD is saying that DonNotAsOLD was incompetent. I agree.

Biden fired one for creating a hostile work environment, not for a political reason.

... Many politically appointed leaders of agencies and departments come and go with each administration, but an inspector general can serve under multiple presidents.

Sycophant IGs are USELESS. Might as well not bother with replacements.

[Vrede too]

Note: My 2 prior posts are new.

Senate advances Pete Hegseth as Trump's defense secretary, despite allegations

... Two Republicans, Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, broke ranks with Trump and his allies who have mounted an extensive public campaign to push Hegseth toward confirmation. The former combat veteran and Fox News host faces allegations of excessive drinking and aggressive actions toward women, which he has denied. The vote was 51-49, with a final vote on confirmation expected Friday....

Unlikely there will be a 3rd defection. It's a victory for misogyny and incompetence.

O Really and GoCubsGo, as well as America, have probably lost, but I've yet to win. NoKINONo!

Y'all had too much faith in RepuQ patriotism.

Hegseth confirmed as Trump's defense secretary in tie-breaking vote despite turmoil over his conduct

... Vice President JD Vance arrived to break the 50-50 tie, highly unusual for Cabinet nominees and particularly defense secretaries, who typically win wider bipartisan support....

Trump said he didn’t care about the dissent from Sen. Mitch McConnell, the influential former Republican leader — who joined two other Republicans, Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, in voting against Hegseth — because the “important thing is winning."

America lost.

... Only once before has the vice president had to break a tie on a Cabinet nominee — during Trump's first term, when Vice President Mike Pence cast the vote to confirm Betsy DeVos as education secretary.

Another superb nominee.

Next week senators will be facing Trump's other outside Cabinet choices including particularly Kash Patel, a Trump ally who has published an enemies list, as the FBI director; Tulsi Gabbard as director of the office of national intelligence; and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the anti-vaccine advocate, at Health and Human Services.

The Three Stooges.

... One Republican, Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, sent the Senate swirling as he raised fresh questions and was provided information and answers.

But Tillis ultimately voted to confirm Hegseth, who he said “has a unique perspective” and is passionate about modernizing the military. He said he spoke to Hegseth for “nearly two hours” about his concerns.

Sorry.
"I see no problem whatsoever."
-- Moronic, military-hating AL Sen Tommy Potatotown
Maybe because his head is so far up DonOLD's ass?

... Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., said there were few Trump nominees as “dangerously and woefully unqualified as Hegseth.”

Quite a few is more like it.

... Hegseth has promised not to drink on the job if confirmed....

How many nominees have ever had to make that pledge?

[Supsalemgr]

Do you agree that the 14th is clear, that birthright citizenship cannot be ended by EO or law, and that MAGA is just running a scam?

Based on how this has been the standard for many years I do believe any change should be by amendment. As I stated previously, the idea of a law change was a "Hail Mary".

Kudos What do you think of this?

Trump fires 17 independent inspectors general at federal agencies, source says

... The dismissals appeared to violate federal law, which requires the president to give both houses of Congress reasons for the dismissals 30 days in advance.

Not even a week. Figures, the DonOLD criminal enterprise continues. What part of 'illegal' does he not understand?

... The Washington Post, which was first to report the dismissals, said most were appointees from Trump's 2017-2021 first term.

So, DonOLD is saying that DonNotAsOLD was incompetent. I agree.

Biden fired one for creating a hostile work environment, not for a political reason.

... Many politically appointed leaders of agencies and departments come and go with each administration, but an inspector general can serve under multiple presidents.

Sycophant IGs are USELESS. Might as well not bother with replacements.

All appointees can be replaced. It is part of the process. Get over it.

[Vrede too]

Biden fired ONE for creating a hostile work environment, not for a political reason.

... Many politically appointed leaders of agencies and departments come and go with each administration, but an inspector general can serve under multiple presidents.

Sycophant IGs are USELESS. Might as well not bother with replacements.

All appointees can be replaced. It is part of the process. Get over it.

You MAGAts just can't stop lying in defense of your idol. As the article makes CLEAR, mass firings of IGs is NOT part of the traditional process. It's an extreme move that only a fascist autocrat would attempt, and the 34-time felon has broken the law in doing so. SoupySales LOVES criminals, as long as they are RepuQs.