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Probably a lot of retirement requests being submitted. All the outrage I am seeing from the left tells me he is going to do a good job.
Seriously? You agree with reckless stupidity and malicious destruction just because it pisses off "the left"?
That is you opinion and you are certainly welcomed to it.

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Supsalemgr wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:19 pm
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Probably a lot of retirement requests being submitted. All the outrage I am seeing from the left tells me he is going to do a good job.
Seriously? You agree with reckless stupidity and malicious destruction just because it pisses off "the left"?
That is you opinion and you are certainly welcomed to it.
If you don't think firing people in critical jobs before you even understand what they do isn't reckless stupidity, and sending a person to head the FBI on the basis that he'll harass enemies isn't malicious destruction, then you haven't been paying attention.

If you were a manager in a big corporation for 40 years, then you were either the world's worse manager or in the world's sorriest corporation if you really think these people are approaching any issue in a rational manner. Classic "shoot then aim", without the aim part. But assuming you really did have a good career in management, I'm guessing you know they're crazy and are just yanking our chains as part of your "own the libs" game.

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Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:26 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:19 pm
Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:58 pm
Probably a lot of retirement requests being submitted. All the outrage I am seeing from the left tells me he is going to do a good job.
Seriously? You agree with reckless stupidity and malicious destruction just because it pisses off "the left"?
That is you opinion and you are certainly welcomed to it.
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Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:12 pm
If you don't think firing people in critical jobs before you even understand what they do isn't reckless stupidity, and sending a person to head the FBI on the basis that he'll harass enemies isn't malicious destruction, then you haven't been paying attention.

If you were a manager in a big corporation for 40 years, then you were either the world's worse manager or in the world's sorriest corporation if you really think these people are approaching any issue in a rational manner. Classic "shoot then aim", without the aim part. But assuming you really did have a good career in management, I'm guessing you know they're crazy and are just yanking our chains as part of your "own the libs" game.
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O Really wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:12 pm
Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:26 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:19 pm
Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:58 pm
Probably a lot of retirement requests being submitted. All the outrage I am seeing from the left tells me he is going to do a good job.
Seriously? You agree with reckless stupidity and malicious destruction just because it pisses off "the left"?
That is you opinion and you are certainly welcomed to it.
If you don't think firing people in critical jobs before you even understand what they do isn't reckless stupidity, and sending a person to head the FBI on the basis that he'll harass enemies isn't malicious destruction, then you haven't been paying attention.

If you were a manager in a big corporation for 40 years, then you were either the world's worse manager or in the world's sorriest corporation if you really think these people are approaching any issue in a rational manner. Classic "shoot then aim", without the aim part. But assuming you really did have a good career in management, I'm guessing you know they're crazy and are just yanking our chains as part of your "own the libs" game.
It was inevitable that some good employees would be let go. It happens with any RIF. I tend to think more time should have been taken in some cases, but there would still be some good folks fired. It is too bad those folks have been affected.

The real root cause of this is the wasteful bloating of our federal government by both parties over the years made these actions necessary.

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The real root cause of this is the wasteful bloating of our federal government by both parties over the years made these actions necessary.
I'm willing to go along with that if anybody has any actual studies to show it's true, and has a plan typical of other rational organizations to adjust staffing to workload. It's pretty hard to believe that there wouldn't be any credible professional studies done, and less believable that the Dodgy people have actually reviewed them.

Staffing reductions are usually caused by reduction in workload, usually related to drop in business. Has the workload of any of these agencies been reduced? Are there fewer people to provide services for? Were there people un- or under-utilized? Did they hire too many people for the available work, or did the amount of available work shrink?

Consider this: You were an insurance executive - you know everything about the insurance business and are a capable manager. Now suppose somebody thought it was a good idea to give you a top executive position at Cognizant Technology Solutions Corporation. Do you think you could learn enough about the company and its international links in a month and make positive-result decisions on cutting entire divisions, dropping clients, terminating leaders?

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O Really wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:31 am
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The real root cause of this is the wasteful bloating of our federal government by both parties over the years made these actions necessary.
I'm willing to go along with that if anybody has any actual studies to show it's true, and has a plan typical of other rational organizations to adjust staffing to workload. It's pretty hard to believe that there wouldn't be any credible professional studies done, and less believable that the Dodgy people have actually reviewed them.

Staffing reductions are usually caused by reduction in workload, usually related to drop in business. Has the workload of any of these agencies been reduced? Are there fewer people to provide services for? Were there people un- or under-utilized? Did they hire too many people for the available work, or did the amount of available work shrink?

Consider this: You were an insurance executive - you know everything about the insurance business and are a capable manager. Now suppose somebody thought it was a good idea to give you a top executive position at Cognizant Technology Solutions Corporation. Do you think you could learn enough about the company and its international links in a month and make positive-result decisions on cutting entire divisions, dropping clients, terminating leaders?
I think the fact our country has over a $30 trillion debt is proof enough of overspending. For years I have been opposed to a balanced budget amendment as I felt our leaders needed some flexibility in case of an emergency situation. However, I now don't believe our politicians are incapable of handling that flexibility. The hole we are in can no longer be overcome with growth of the economy.

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Well, a quick couple of trillion could be found, or not lost, without Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy. Or, I guess you could eliminate 200,000 people with average $100k to get the same amount.

BTW, has any President had balanced budgets? Oh yeah. Him.

But it's possible some departments are overstaffed. Let's see some actual studies showing that, and showing what jobs are in excess. I've been on merger/acquisition teams and been in companies that were merged or acquired. Never, ever, did any of that occur without following and extensive "due diligence" process. And that's not a one-month job.

However, we all know that the Doge project has nothing to do with waste or excess staffing. It's just happily going about its business of getting rid of functions Trump and or Musk find distasteful or that regulate them and their companies.

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POTUS Musk and PINO love bad cops:
Trump Shuts Down DOJ Database Tracking Federal Police Misconduct
The National Law Enforcement Accountability Database was used to weed out potential job candidates with poor track records.


... The National Law Enforcement Accountability Database, which Trump proposed creating during his first term in 2020, was closed Thursday. Federal law enforcement agencies are now unable to search for or add data, the Justice Department said....

There were 4,790 records of federal officer misconduct and 4,011 federal law enforcement officers in the database, spanning from 2018 to 2023, according to a statistical brief released by the DOJ in December.
Wow.
“Qualifying incidents include criminal conviction, suspension of an officer’s enforcement authorities related to misconduct, termination related to misconduct, resignation or retirement while under investigation for serious misconduct, and sustained complaints or records of disciplinary action based on findings of serious misconduct,” according to the brief....
Ugh.
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Studies. :lol:
Have Vrede do some research with google and mail them a letter. Maybe they’ll get back to y’all quickly.

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Studies. :lol:
Have Vrede do some research with google and mail them a letter. Maybe they’ll get back to y’all quickly.
Umm, O Really asked SoupySales to produce "studies" backing his position. I'm not going to do SoupySales' work for him. Damn, you're whiny and stupid.
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Vrede too wrote:
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1 CAT FAN wrote:
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Studies. :lol:
Have Vrede do some research with google and mail them a letter. Maybe they’ll get back to y’all quickly.
Umm, O Really asked SoupySales to produce "studies" backing his position. I'm not going to do SoupySales' work for him. Damn, you're whiny and stupid.
You’re afraid to research that the terminations are counterproductive. You usually jump at the opportunity.
You’re fired!

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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:21 pm
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:37 pm
Studies. :lol:
Have Vrede do some research with google and mail them a letter. Maybe they’ll get back to y’all quickly.
Umm, O Really asked SoupySales to produce "studies" backing his position. I'm not going to do SoupySales' work for him. Damn, you're whiny and stupid.
You’re afraid to research that the terminations are counterproductive. You usually jump at the opportunity.
You’re fired!
That's so stupid! This forum is already full of examples of the terminations being counterproductive or otherwise unwise. Why should I reinvent the wheel when the challenge was issued to SoupySales to prove the opposite? What is wrong with you that you're too lazy to read what's already been posted? Seems like you are the one that's afraid of learning something. Typical MAGAt, typical Clemson fan.
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:27 pm
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:15 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:21 pm
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:37 pm
Studies. :lol:
Have Vrede do some research with google and mail them a letter. Maybe they’ll get back to y’all quickly.
Umm, O Really asked SoupySales to produce "studies" backing his position. I'm not going to do SoupySales' work for him. Damn, you're whiny and stupid.
You’re afraid to research that the terminations are counterproductive. You usually jump at the opportunity.
You’re fired!
That's so stupid! This forum is already full of examples of the terminations being counterproductive or otherwise unwise. Why should I reinvent the wheel when the challenge was issued to SoupySales to prove the opposite? What is wrong with you that you're too lazy to read what's already been posted? Seems like you are the one that's afraid of learning something. Typical MAGAt, typical Clemson fan.
Write them a letter, see if they take the examples here in advisement. :lol:

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That's so stupid! This forum is already full of examples of the terminations being counterproductive or otherwise unwise. Why should I reinvent the wheel when the challenge was issued to SoupySales to prove the opposite? What is wrong with you that you're too lazy to read what's already been posted? Seems like you are the one that's afraid of learning something. Typical MAGAt, typical Clemson fan.
Write them a letter, see if they take the examples here in advisement. :lol:
So stupid again, child. The examples are largely from national publications. A BRD endorsement means little. As for the national outcry and your idol's tanking poll numbers, they will have an effect if we still have a democracy. If we've already gone fascist it won't matter and you can jerk off to that.

Now, since you've yet to craft a sensible post, poor thing, this tangent is done. Grow up.
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Vrede too wrote:
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1 CAT FAN wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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That's so stupid! This forum is already full of examples of the terminations being counterproductive or otherwise unwise. Why should I reinvent the wheel when the challenge was issued to SoupySales to prove the opposite? What is wrong with you that you're too lazy to read what's already been posted? Seems like you are the one that's afraid of learning something. Typical MAGAt, typical Clemson fan.
Write them a letter, see if they take the examples here in advisement. :lol:
A BRD endorsement means little.
Got that right. :lol:

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Vrede too wrote:
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A BRD endorsement means little.
Classic! :lol:

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Poor poor widdle obsessed 1 FAT CAN, four likely whiny MAGAt (redundant, I know) posts at me and I'm not able to read them. Shame that s/he wasted the time and effort. :violin:
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