The LEO thread

[Mr.B]

"So many lies by "witnesses", little wonder, then, the decision was to not prosecute Wilson."

Michael Brown was nothing more than a low-life street punk. In the robbery video, you can see his hand around the neck of the store owner as he walked out with the cigars in his hand. His size and strength was his weapon; a "Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown" wannabe. Despite the fact that he strong-arm robbed the store prior to his demise was not in any way considered when the riots started. In fact the news media changed his name....all you heard was "Unarmed Black Teenager Michael Brown".

I can't but wonder at the sensibility behind the city not showing the evidence that was presented to the grand jury before announcing the verdict against Wilson.
Instead, they announced the verdict, then proceeded to show the evidence...after the violence flared up again.

"I'm shocked! Shocked I say. Who would have thought they'd have turned Wilson loose?"

Did you see the interview with George Stephanopoulos? I believe 'ol George believed Wilson after that, but Robin Roberts was rather miffed; you could see it in her attitude. After seeing the interview, I couldn't see how the grand jury could indict him although I didn't believe Wilson's story at first.

[neoplacebo]

It's apparently correct that Brown wasn't what you'd call a model citizen. The issue is whether he should get the death penalty for that; without trial. I think Wilson had several other options other than murder.....Wilson was in a vehicle, which I assume was running. Why didn't he wheel the thing backward with a hard left to disengage from Brown? Why didn't he pull forward enough to be able to exit his vehicle and then subdue Brown? I guarantee you that if you're trying to assault me while I'm sitting in my car, you will very soon become intimately acquainted with the left front fender and probably be on the ground in short order. And besides all that, I think it would be rather difficult to land an effective blow on someone sitting in a drivers seat from outside the vehicle. Again, the issue is whether or not the death penalty is warranted for stealing cigars and being mouthy to a cop, along with the apparent hostility between the cops and the black community in Ferguson over an extended period of time..

[O Really]

OK, so Michael Brown was a low-life street punk. He wasn't a nice guy, and had committed a minor crime with some aggressive activities not long ago. But Wilson didn't know that. He wasn't chasing him for the crime. He didn't know of any record Brown had, if any. Brown's only offense, insofar as Wilson knew, was walking in the middle of the street. Therefore, the vid, etc. is irrelevant.

My prediction was that they'd turn Wilson loose. My "shock" was obvious sarcasm. But remember that Wilson was not simply a participant, he was a witness - a witness with a personal stake. So the accuracy of his well-coached testimony is no more reliable than anybody else with a point of view. Testimony is only part of evidence, and not even the best evidence. Not that I know anything about it, but real prosecutors with years of experience have criticized the entire handling of the grand jury in this circus.

I'm just tired of "I wuz skeered" being an acceptable excuse. Of course you're scared being attacked/confronted by an aggressive person such as a 300 pound "thug", or a cop with a gun.

[O Really]

Here's more reasons why being "skeered" isn't really the issue. Good quote from the article, taking Wilson's story to be accurate and Brown was enraged and charged him, "so why was he so angry?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-ko ... 33000.html

[JTA]

"So many lies by "witnesses", little wonder, then, the decision was to not prosecute Wilson."

Michael Brown was nothing more than a low-life street punk. In the robbery video, you can see his hand around the neck of the store owner as he walked out with the cigars in his hand. His size and strength was his weapon; a "Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown" wannabe. Despite the fact that he strong-arm robbed the store prior to his demise was not in any way considered when the riots started. In fact the news media changed his name....all you heard was "Unarmed Black Teenager Michael Brown".

I can't but wonder at the sensibility behind the city not showing the evidence that was presented to the grand jury before announcing the verdict against Wilson.
Instead, they announced the verdict, then proceeded to show the evidence...after the violence flared up again.

"I'm shocked! Shocked I say. Who would have thought they'd have turned Wilson loose?"

Did you see the interview with George Stephanopoulos? I believe 'ol George believed Wilson after that, but Robin Roberts was rather miffed; you could see it in her attitude. After seeing the interview, I couldn't see how the grand jury could indict him although I didn't believe Wilson's story at first.

Speaking of that store owner, apparently his shop was looted. I saw a picture online and the dude just looked absolutely downtrodden. How much god damn sense does it make to burn down your own town? That'd be like me going up the street and trashing the grocery store and gas station I shop at. Man I'm happy when something opens up close to me so I don't have to go as far to get what I need.

[Mr.B]

Michael Brown and his homies flash-mobbed the store; after his death, they came back and literally destroyed the store to honor his memory.

The Blacks say the police practice racial profiling...what this whole mess boils down to is that a white policeman killed a Black. I wonder how this would have played out had the cop been Black?...or even a Black cop and a white victim?

[neoplacebo]

Irrelevant; a case of not seeing the forest because of the trees.

[O Really]

Michael Brown and his homies flash-mobbed the store; after his death, they came back and literally destroyed the store to honor his memory.

The Blacks say the police practice racial profiling...what this whole mess boils down to is that a white policeman killed a Black. I wonder how this would have played out had the cop been Black?...or even a Black cop and a white victim?

The race issue got brought attention to the incident. Race wasn't the only thing wrong where an unarmed guy is shot dead for jaywalking and cops are so aggressive as to not have or know how to use any weapon or tactic to deal with a belligerent person without shooting them. Wouldn't be right even if both parties were Asians.

Short version, it would have played out with the same injustice - we might just not have heard of it.

[rstrong]

A riot is the language of the unheard.
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

[rstrong]

“Professor” who assisted in Mike Brown autopsy revealed as “fraud, con artist”

Just when you thought the investigation into Ferguson cop Darren Wilson's shooting of an unarmed black teen couldn't get any more fucked up, it gets even more fucked up....

[indago]

Free Hugs

From ABC News 28 November 2014:
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"I came upon this boy who had tears in his eyes and I knew this was the place to be, so I followed him in the crowd," Nguyen said. "Then he came upon the police officer. They talked and he gave him a hug."

Devonte Hart, 12, was at the demonstration holding a sign that said "free hugs" when Portland Police Sgt. Bret Barnum noticed him, motioned the boy over and the two began talking.

Nguyen said that Barnum pointed to the sign and asked "Do I get one of those?" and they hugged.
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[O Really]

Free Hugs

From ABC News 28 November 2014:
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"I came upon this boy who had tears in his eyes and I knew this was the place to be, so I followed him in the crowd," Nguyen said. "Then he came upon the police officer. They talked and he gave him a hug."

Devonte Hart, 12, was at the demonstration holding a sign that said "free hugs" when Portland Police Sgt. Bret Barnum noticed him, motioned the boy over and the two began talking.

Nguyen said that Barnum pointed to the sign and asked "Do I get one of those?" and they hugged.
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Good pic and article. We need more of that. Of course, that was in Portland OR, not Ferguson. But since the kid is the son of a couple of lesbians, he was probably just looking for a more manly figure in his life. In (places like) Ferguson, the kid would have been arrested for trying to assault the cop and grab his gun.

[O Really]

10 Most Dangerous States... http://www.thestreet.com/story/12968105 ... _ven=YAHOO

So DC being #1 is a little hokey since it's not a state and is solid urban, but guess who's #2. Illinois? New York? Michigan? Nope. That would be the good gun-loving God-fearing Republican voting folks in South Carolina. According to my interpretation of the list, yayhoos are fairly likely to be dangerous.

[indago]

Free Hugs

From ABC News 28 November 2014:
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"I came upon this boy who had tears in his eyes and I knew this was the place to be, so I followed him in the crowd," Nguyen said. "Then he came upon the police officer. They talked and he gave him a hug."

Devonte Hart, 12, was at the demonstration holding a sign that said "free hugs" when Portland Police Sgt. Bret Barnum noticed him, motioned the boy over and the two began talking.

Nguyen said that Barnum pointed to the sign and asked "Do I get one of those?" and they hugged.
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PROFILE — Devonte Hart

Chloe Johnson wrote for Paper Trail 10 November 2014:
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Devonte Hart entered the world 12 years ago with drugs pumping through his tiny newborn body. By the time he was 4 years old he had smoked, consumed alcohol, handled guns, been shot at, and suffered severe abuse and neglect. ...It was a life with little hope and a future that seemed over before it began.

That is until Jen Hart and her wife Sarah entered Devonte’s life and adopted him and his two siblings seven years ago. Jen says the day she met Devonte was frightening and traumatic. “That night, after we finally got him to sleep, I cried harder than I had ever cried in my life. I felt like there was no way we could raise this child, and the five others we had adopted.” Yet, she says, there was something inexplicable pulling at her heart. “I felt more connected to this fragile little boy more than I had ever felt to anyone in my life.”
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[O Really]

Devonte Hart - well there ya' have it. A kid sure to be a great gang-banger recruit and violent felon ruined by a couple of lesbos.

[O Really]

I'm sure he stops white guys too. Color or race doesn't matter. Anybody can be suspect if they're walking with their hands in their pockets...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... picks=true

[neoplacebo]

A group of whites is more correctly referred to as "hominys."

[JTA]

A group of whites is more correctly referred to as "hominys."

This gave me a chuckle.

[rstrong]

Tom Tomorrow

[Mr.B]

"I wonder when the last time was that you referred to a group of whites as "homies".

"A group of whites is more correctly referred to as "hominys."

Let's see if ol' politically-correct Vrede pizzes and moans over that one.......