Surviving a second Trump admin

[O Really]

I'm waiting for him to deny he uses undocumented immigrant labor. "I cut my own grass" or whatever, while happily eating California and Florida food, NC apples, enjoying his clean hotel room.

You have to wonder why the question isn't "how to get rid of these "illegal" people", but "how do make some of most productive workers legal?"
Oh, yeah - racism and that white supremacy thing.

[Vrede too]

Due process extends to non citizens as well.

Supplicantsalemgr FAILS Civics 101.

Here we go again:

Brown University Professor Deported Despite Valid Visa And Judge's Order: Lawyers
A representative for Customs and Border Protection told HuffPost, "Arriving aliens bear the burden of establishing admissibility to the United States."

U.S. immigration authorities deported Brown University medical professor Dr. Rasha Alawieh despite her valid visa and a judge’s order halting her removal.

Alawieh, a Lebanese citizen and kidney transplant specialist, was detained at Boston’s Logan International Airport on Thursday while returning from a trip to visit her parents in Lebanon, according to a court complaint filed by her cousin Yara Chehab, which was reported by the New York Times on Sunday.

Though federal Judge Leo T. Sorokin issued a Friday night order directing the government to give courts 48 hours notice before deporting Alawieh, she was still placed on a flight to Paris, where she was again detained on Saturday.

In an affidavit reviewed by the Times, Claire Saunders, a member of the legal representing Chehab, said that she notified U.S. Customs and Border Protection of the court order on Friday before the flight was scheduled to depart but that officers did not act on the information.

Lawbreaking bastards.

In response to the government’s apparent defiance of Sorokin’s directive, the judge filed a second order on Sunday morning. In it, he said there was ground to believe authorities had “willfully” disobeyed his initial order, and he asked the government to respond to the “serious allegations” by Monday.

A judge can lock up officials for contempt without the DoJ's consent.

In response to an inquiry about Alawieh’s detention and deportation, Hilton Beckham, the Assistant Commissioner of Public Affairs for Customs and Border Protection, told HuffPost that “arriving aliens bear the burden of establishing admissibility to the United States.”

“Our CBP Officers adhere to strict protocols to identify and stop threats, using rigorous screening, vetting, strong law enforcement partnerships, and keen inspectional skills to keep threats out of the country,” his statement continued. “CBP is committed to protecting the United States from national security threats.”

A kidney transplant specialist is a national security threat?

The attorney representing Alawieh and Brown Medicine, Thomas S. Brown, told The New Arab he did not understand why his client was detained and deported.

“We are at a loss as to why this happened,” he said. “I don’t know if it’s a byproduct of the Trump crackdown on immigration. I don’t know if it’s a travel ban or some other issue.” ...

The article doesn't say whether she participated in any Gaza solidarity demonstrations, but even if she did it's hard to imagine that she did so in a threatening fashion.

Alawieh is legal. DonOLD, InHoman and Gnome are illegal. Supplicantsalemgr is not bothered by those illegals.

[O Really]

I dunno. An off-white kidney surgeon named Rasha Alawieh with a bag on her head could be getting her replacement kidney parts from trafficked kids or, more like, by drugging white male Christians. Maybe she's planting time bombs in those kidneys. Maybe she prays toward Allah before doing surgery. Oh yeah, that's probably it. Better get rid of her before she starts eating babies on a stick.

[Supsalemgr]

As far as due process. Once we get past the fact they are here illegally we can talk about further due process.

You can't really be that unaware. You're smart enough to make a living you whole life and feed yourself. You must know that at the point a person is identified as "illegal" the question immediately arises "what to do." It is at that point that due process begins. Same for anybody in the country, citizen, visitor, asylum-seeker, stowaway. I can understand your being afraid of heartless MS13 guys, but do you really think they're the ones out cutting your lawn, picking your fruits and veggies, laying your bricks, drywalling your house, cleaning your office? And do you think the majority of undocumented immigrants are really violent? And do you really think the MS13 people and your lawn care guy should be treated the same?

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences.

[Supsalemgr]

As far as due process. Once we get past the fact they are here illegally we can talk about further due process.

You can't really be that unaware. You're smart enough to make a living you whole life and feed yourself. You must know that at the point a person is identified as "illegal" the question immediately arises "what to do." It is at that point that due process begins. Same for anybody in the country, citizen, visitor, asylum-seeker, stowaway. I can understand your being afraid of heartless MS13 guys, but do you really think they're the ones out cutting your lawn, picking your fruits and veggies, laying your bricks, drywalling your house, cleaning your office? And do you think the majority of undocumented immigrants are really violent? And do you really think the MS13 people and your lawn care guy should be treated the same?

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences. Let's concentrate on the real bad guys and not try to direct attention away from the question at hand.

[GoCubsGo]

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences.

How the fuck could you possibly know that?

[Vrede too]

First we gotta vote em out...if we have free and fair elections.

Ftfy

You don't thunk we could have Putin style 'elections'?

, but I wouldn't bet the farm on having any at all. How deep into the Nazi playbook will we go? Are there any limits?

I'm no more paranoid than Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas):

Jasmine Crockett Offers Ominous Take On Future Elections
The Texas congresswoman was responding to CNN host Jake Tapper's question about a possible primary challenge to a top Democrat.

Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas) expressed concern about the state of American democracy amid President Donald Trump’s second term as she questioned whether elections — as they currently are — will even take place in the United States in the future.

“We don’t even know what elections will look like in four years, if we will have elections,” Crockett told CNN’s Jake Tapper on Sunday’s “State of the Union.”

Crockett’s remark came after Tapper asked if she’d support a potential primary challenge by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) against Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), whose current term runs until January 2029.

Schumer has drawn fierce criticism from fellow Democrats following his role last week in helping Republicans pass a controversial spending bill, which subsequently prevented a government shutdown.

Crockett sidestepped giving a definitive answer to the question, though, and noted a potential challenge by Ocasio-Cortez would be “four years from now.”

“If you were asking me, at least in two years, then I would have an absolute answer,” she told Tapper. “But I can tell you that there are a lot of people that are watching his leadership in this moment. This is the moment.”

It's retirement time, Chuck.

Watch here:


Rep. Jasmine Crockett On Elections

[GoCubsGo]

It's retirement time, Chuck.

The inability to read the room is often fatal for politicians.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 235297831/

[1 CAT FAN]

Trump defies judge's order and deports suspected gang members

Another part of this issue is will the democrats come out in support of these criminal aliens?

Yes, as long as they're not in their neighborhood.

[Supsalemgr]

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences.

How the fuck could you possibly know that?

How do you know it is not true? Have you seen reports that say differently?

[GoCubsGo]

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences.

How the fuck could you possibly know that?

How do you know it is not true? Have you seen reports that say differently?

Seriously?

You're going the prove the negative route?

That's sad and pathetic.

[Whack9]

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences.

How the fuck could you possibly know that?

How do you know it is not true? Have you seen reports that say differently?

Do you not understand what courts and the whole judicial process is for?

[Vrede too]

How do you know it is not true? Have you seen reports that say differently?

Do you not understand what courts and the whole judicial process is for?

Supplicantsalemgr has "seen reports that say differently". Dr Rasha Alawieh and Mahmoud Khalil have valid visas. As always, he has no problem with making a complete fool of himself while trolling.

[Supsalemgr]

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences.

How the fuck could you possibly know that?

How do you know it is not true? Have you seen reports that say differently?

Do you not understand what courts and the whole judicial process is for?

I hope you guys realize the judge's ruling is only a pause. It will all workout in time.

[Whack9]

Those that you refer are not being targeted. If they are here illegally they know the possible consequences.

How the fuck could you possibly know that?

How do you know it is not true? Have you seen reports that say differently?

Do you not understand what courts and the whole judicial process is for?

I hope you guys realize the judge's ruling is only a pause. It will all workout in time.

Okay, so I take it you're in agreement with us here then that everyone deserves their day in court in front of a judge who can determine, based on evidence presented, whether or not the thing a person is being accused of is true, and not just a baseless, random, accusation? Don't you agree this is important?

[O Really]

Well, look, not every single abuse of the deportation train is going to make the news. But there are enough documented stories of illegal abuse to clearly show it's happening. If they want to deport undocumented people who really are convicted violent criminals, fine - goferit. But accusations aren't convictions. Convicts of something like, for example insurance or tax fraud usually aren't considered dangerous. People whose legit paperwork gets sidetracked for some reason aren't criminals. Being brown isn't an actual crime.

[Supsalemgr]

How the fuck could you possibly know that?

How do you know it is not true? Have you seen reports that say differently?

Do you not understand what courts and the whole judicial process is for?

I hope you guys realize the judge's ruling is only a pause. It will all workout in time.

Okay, so I take it you're in agreement with us here then that everyone deserves their day in court in front of a judge who can determine, based on evidence presented, whether or not the thing a person is being accused of is true, and not just a baseless, random, accusation? Don't you agree this is important?

Let's put this in the proper time frame scenario:

The president took executive action based on law that is on the books.
The ACLU found a person who supposedly has standing to bring such action.
The judge has ordered a pause until a full hearing can be held.

That is where we are. It will be fully adjudicated.

[Supsalemgr]

Well, look, not every single abuse of the deportation train is going to make the news. But there are enough documented stories of illegal abuse to clearly show it's happening. If they want to deport undocumented people who really are convicted violent criminals, fine - goferit. But accusations aren't convictions. Convicts of something like, for example insurance or tax fraud usually aren't considered dangerous. People whose legit paperwork gets sidetracked for some reason aren't criminals.

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Being brown isn't an actual crime

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This is not about race. It is about being here illegally

[1 CAT FAN]

Well, look, not every single abuse of the deportation train is going to make the news. But there are enough documented stories of illegal abuse to clearly show it's happening. If they want to deport undocumented people who really are convicted violent criminals, fine - goferit. But accusations aren't convictions. Convicts of something like, for example insurance or tax fraud usually aren't considered dangerous. People whose legit paperwork gets sidetracked for some reason aren't criminals.

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Being brown isn't an actual crime

[/u][/b].

This is not about race. It is about being here illegally

I doubt that O Really would allow illegal immigrant gang members to stay in his gated community.

[GoCubsGo]

Let's put this in the proper time frame scenario:

The president took executive action based on law that is on the books.
The ACLU found a person who supposedly has standing to bring such action.
The judge has ordered a pause until a full hearing can be held.

That is where we are. It will be fully adjudicated.

You mean the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a wartime law that has only been used three times, the War of 1812, WW1 and WW2 and as the judge pointed out is not being used as intended?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/alien-enemie ... p_catchall

Did Congress declare war and not inform us, cause it isn't up to whatever trump thinks or feels on a given day?