Can Someone Explain This to Me?

[Mr.B]

"I don't think anyone has said the recording was from a phone."

Now that you mention it, I don't believe it was ever said outright; it was only said it was a "recorded conversation" which would lead to believe it was from a phone.

Surely if he had known the conversation was being recorded, it would never have been released. If he didn't know, his privacy was still violated by a sneaky, conniving wench, which would give him the right to sue her.

[Mr.B]

"Yeah, I remember the 'Dawg, and still miss him. He was a bit of a free spirit in a lot of ways, but hardly an "ultra-liberal." I'm thinking 'Dawg probably died from something that acupuncture and bitterroot wouldn't cure since he had mostly disdain for mainstream medicine and refused medical insurance anyway."

Even though he and I were at odds many times, I miss sparring with him too. He did strike me as a sort-of "back-to-nature" type that had unflappable ultra-liberal views and opinions. That's why I often teased him about the beat-up Volvo wagon with WCQS stickers and his shopping at Fresh Market.

I've often wondered if he was still posting under a different moniker, but I've pretty much given up that notion.

[rstrong]

I don't condone his statements, but I feel his girlfriend should be arrested herself for violating the FCC Act prohibiting the recording of a phone conversation without the other's consent.

That's IF she recorded it off a phone, while in California.

Only twelve states require that all parties consent to the recording, including California. All other states - including North Carolina - require only that one party consent.

[O Really]

"Yeah, I remember the 'Dawg, and still miss him. He was a bit of a free spirit in a lot of ways, but hardly an "ultra-liberal." I'm thinking 'Dawg probably died from something that acupuncture and bitterroot wouldn't cure since he had mostly disdain for mainstream medicine and refused medical insurance anyway."

Even though he and I were at odds many times, I miss sparring with him too. He did strike me as a sort-of "back-to-nature" type that had unflappable ultra-liberal views and opinions. That's why I often teased him about the beat-up Volvo wagon with WCQS stickers and his shopping at Fresh Market.

I've often wondered if he was still posting under a different moniker, but I've pretty much given up that notion.

Is shopping at Fresh Market an indication of political ideology? I didn't know that. How so?

[O Really]

Surely if he had known the conversation was being recorded, it would never have been released. If he didn't know, his privacy was still violated by a sneaky, conniving wench, which would give him the right to sue her.

Not necessarily. This is a guy who'd been saying such stuff with impunity for years. I don't think he had any idea anybody would do anything about it or that there was anything wrong with what he said. This is a guy who has settled lawsuits for over $2mil over denial of housing to black people. This is a guy who can say, with an apparently straight face, that he "gives (his players) food..." Besides, depending on where the recording was made, he wouldn't have had a reasonable expectation of privacy, even in Cali. And I'm guessing he knew she was a "sneaky, conniving wench" since she was willing to be "girlfriend" to a guy still married, and who accepted more than a million dollars in gifts and got sued by the wife over it. C'mon, Mr.B, you know you're just playing Republican's Advocate over this. The guy has admitted it's him. It's inexcusable. Yes, he has a right to be despicable, and he's not alone in exercising that right. But that doesn't mean the rest of us have to let exercise of that right go without consequences.

[Mr.B]

"C'mon, Mr.B, you know you're just playing Republican's Advocate over this."

Nope...ain't no Republican....or Democrat. I'm speaking from my own opinionated mind, which is often contradictory to Republican and Democrat thinking.

[O Really]

"C'mon, Mr.B, you know you're just playing Republican's Advocate over this."

Nope...ain't no Republican....or Democrat. I'm speaking from my own opinionated mind, which is often contradictory to Republican and Democrat thinking.

Not directed at your politics, Mr.B. To me, "Republican Advocate" is the same expression some use as "Devil's Advocate."

BTW, did you ever answer Vrede's question about how many times in your recent history you've voted for a Dem? I'll tell you how often I've voted for a Republican. Other than some local generally non-partisan races, the first (and last) time I voted for a Republican was for Spiro Agnew when he ran for governor of Maryland. My first vote. Opps. Learned my lesson and haven't screwed up since.

[billy.pilgrim]

bb uses the standard republicon dodge since the failures of the shrub - they all now claim some sort of independence from any party, while voting and supporting straight down the party line and even going so far as to make things up to support his partisanship - as in "I don't like him, but she needs to be arrested"

sort of like waving a flag that says, "only bullshit here"

btw bb - supposedly the rich guy asked the gold digger to record his conversations because he was so forgetful

[Mr.B]

"the first (and last) time I voted for a Republican was for Spiro Agnew when he ran for governor of Maryland. My first vote. Opps. Learned my lesson and haven't screwed up since."

The first time I voted Dem (in a national election) was Carter; the second time was for Obama. Learned my lessons and haven't screwed up since....opps!
BTW, I haven't voted for a GOP in a number of years; mainly because I didn't like the choices.

"bb uses the standard republicon dodge since the failures of the shrub - they all now claim some sort of independence from any party, while voting and supporting straight down the party line and even going so far as to make things up to support his partisanship - as in "I don't like him, but she needs to be arrested" sort of like waving a flag that says, "only bulls**t here".

It appears you own the bigger of the b.s. flags because you're constantly waving it around....however, I'm proud that I have a back-up that constantly monitors my actions and knows more about me than I do.

[billy.pilgrim]

you are way too easy to read

[Mr.B]

"you are way too easy to read"

You need different glasses.....you're hallucinating.

[O Really]

"the first (and last) time I voted for a Republican was for Spiro Agnew when he ran for governor of Maryland. My first vote. Opps. Learned my lesson and haven't screwed up since."

The first time I voted Dem (in a national election) was Carter; the second time was for Obama. Learned my lessons and haven't screwed up since....opps!
BTW, I haven't voted for a GOP in a number of years; mainly because I didn't like the choices.
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I didn't like Carter as a choice, wasn't that fond of him as a President, but he's been a fine guy ever since. Actually I stretch my Agnew story a little for the fun of it. I wasn't really old enough to vote for Agnew, but I was beginning to be active in politics and supported him over his Dem opponent who was a racist sort whose campaign slogan was "a man's home is his castle." I have seen some good candidates in the past who were Republicans, and some of them won and I wasn't distraught. But because an individual in a minority party has about as much power as a dead battery, I've always tried to help keep the Dems in the majority whenever possible. Especially in the past several decades when the Republicans have totally jumped the shark with regard to reason.

[rstrong]

Good 'ol President Carter. One of America's greatest Republican Presidents.

Carter deregulated the airlines, deregulated railways, deregulated trucking, deregulated beer and homebrewing, deregulated oil prices, greatly deregulated banks (Prior to this, banks couldn't set their own interest rates, credit unions couldn't offer checking accounts, and the Fed could tell banks the maximum interest rate they could use).

In addition, with his Fed appointee, Paul Volcker, Carter did the heavy lifting to slash inflation.

So Reagan comes into office with a newly deregulated economy, with the cheap oil flowing from the Carter-deregulated oil fields, being transported on the Carter-deregulated roads and rails, and sees economic success.

And Reagan STILL managed to set records for growing the government and deficit spending. Despite four major tax increases (after an initial tax cut.) Damned lib'rul.

Like any good Republican, Carter sought to avoid foreign entanglements. Taking a more concrete step than almost any other President in that regard, he fought to end America's dependence on foreign oil. His Moral Equivalent of War speech should be required reading for any Republican. The other party mocked him for it.

Had the next guy not junked his energy program, his proposed mileage standard etc., even removing the solar panels from the White House roof "because weakness", who knows? The US might not have been dragged into Gulf War I, leading in turn to 9/11, leading in turn to Afghanistan and Gulf War II.

[Mr.B]

"Is shopping at Fresh Market an indication of political ideology?"

That was a joke because FM sells a lot of organic/non-preservative foods....nothing to do with "political ideology"...you're safe.

"Like any good Republican, Carter sought to avoid foreign entanglements...."

Uhhhh....Carter was a Democrat...opps!

Carter is a Christian which I feel made him keep the other cheek turned too long in regards to the Iran crisis.
When he did turn the other cheek, the rescue plan was planned too poorly.

[Wneglia]

Not really. He could have sold anytime and or passed the team on to his heirs for them to sell at some point. Being forced to sell now, assuming that's what happens, doesn't increase that a penny. Plus, one might guess that the sale price could drop a bit given that, "I've decided not to sell," is removed from the bidding and prospective owners may be less inclined to reward him by overbidding. Meanwhile, he's losing money from the sponsorship withdrawals every day until he does sell, and he's still paying the players that demonstrated against him.

He may not sell (or his wife, who owns part of the team may not sell), but with Oprah, et. al. interested in purchasing the franchise, word on the street is that it may be a billion dollar team

[Boatrocker]

. . . Uhhhh....Carter was a Democrat...opps! . . . .

I think you've been bitten by the oh-so-subtle irony/sarcasm of our friend from the North.

[neoplacebo]

Not really. He could have sold anytime and or passed the team on to his heirs for them to sell at some point. Being forced to sell now, assuming that's what happens, doesn't increase that a penny. Plus, one might guess that the sale price could drop a bit given that, "I've decided not to sell," is removed from the bidding and prospective owners may be less inclined to reward him by overbidding. Meanwhile, he's losing money from the sponsorship withdrawals every day until he does sell, and he's still paying the players that demonstrated against him.

He may not sell (or his wife, who owns part of the team may not sell), but with Oprah, et. al. interested in purchasing the franchise, word on the street is that it may be a billion dollar team

I'm in no way a basketball fan, but after watching the network news last night and finding out the Clippers were playing, I said to myself......"Self, if you had an extra ten or fifty thousand dollars, you should bet that the Clippers win their game this evening." Sure enough, I see this morning that the Clippers won. I have a long and distinguished history of not listening when "self" makes suggestions to me.

[rstrong]

. . . Uhhhh....Carter was a Democrat...opps! . . . .

I think you've been bitten by the oh-so-subtle irony/sarcasm of our friend from the North.

Yup. I'm going by policy once elected.

[Wneglia]

Now THATreally hurts!

[Boatrocker]

Actually, I don't see where he should be "forced" to sell. Not for a thought crime.