The Food Thread

[neoplacebo]

I give it a solid 3. Could have maybe been a 6 if the presentation had been better.

Quality roadkill possum pizza doesn't have all of the filling "inside".

Correct

At best it's a calzone or stromboli, or as I called my first stromboli - pizza in a shoe

Good point, but I was thinking more about roadkill needing its "filling" spilling out than whether it's pizza. Between the two of us, maybe neoplacebo's "solid 3" is too generous. Otoh, I give it a 5.5 in degree of difficulty given the "very intoxicated".

Hell, I only gave it a 3 BECAUSE of the "being intoxicated" modifier. Otherwise, the thing wouldn't even register on the rating scale. And because it isn't evident if the dish is of the rare albino variety or is just dessicated from decay, an accurate rating was about as impossible as Bill Barr being a competent Attorney General.

[billy.pilgrim]

Barely enough for 2, but poke salad was on the menu last night.

[Vrede too]

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[O Really]

Barely enough for 2, but poke salad was on the menu last night.

Had to look it up. You've mentioned it before, but I forgot. Now I remember - I didn't get past the "poisonous" part.

"Phytolacca americana, also known as American pokeweed, pokeweed, poke sallet, or poke salad, is a poisonous..."

[O Really]

Barely enough for 2, but poke salad was on the menu last night.

Had to look it up. You've mentioned it before, but I forgot. Now I remember - I didn't get past the "poisonous" part.

"Phytolacca americana, also known as American pokeweed, pokeweed, poke sallet, or poke salad, is a poisonous..."

You probably already knew this but were just clowining, but "Poke" (pronounced "po-kay") is a Hawaiian dish that has nothing to do with poke weed. Poke just means sliced. I've never had it myself, but that doesn't mean it's not good. I just don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poke_(Hawaiian_dish)

Nope. The Hawaiian Poke is what I had for dinner a couple of nights ago. Delicious, and a favourite food. "Poke salad" is made from the poisonous weeds. Ask billy.p.

[O Really]

This is more what I think billy.p had...
https://www.wildabundance.net/pokeweed/



This is what I have...



https://sunshinepoke.business.site/

[billy.pilgrim]

Barely enough for 2, but poke salad was on the menu last night.

Had to look it up. You've mentioned it before, but I forgot. Now I remember - I didn't get past the "poisonous" part.

"Phytolacca americana, also known as American pokeweed, pokeweed, poke sallet, or poke salad, is a poisonous..."

You probably already knew this but were just clowining, but "Poke" (pronounced "po-kay") is a Hawaiian dish that has nothing to do with poke weed. Poke just means sliced. I've never had it myself, but that doesn't mean it's not good. I just don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poke_(Hawaiian_dish)

Nope. The Hawaiian Poke is what I had for dinner a couple of nights ago. Delicious, and a favourite food. "Poke salad" is made from the poisonous weeds. Ask billy.p.

Don't be so hard on poke salad. Even chicken is poisonous when not prepared correctly. Probably safer than a lot of stuff we eat and way safer than those puffer fish.

No chance of an upset stomach rinsed after cooking.

Don't you pick mushrooms?

[Whack9]

Barely enough for 2, but poke salad was on the menu last night.

Had to look it up. You've mentioned it before, but I forgot. Now I remember - I didn't get past the "poisonous" part.

"Phytolacca americana, also known as American pokeweed, pokeweed, poke sallet, or poke salad, is a poisonous..."

You probably already knew this but were just clowining, but "Poke" (pronounced "po-kay") is a Hawaiian dish that has nothing to do with poke weed. Poke just means sliced. I've never had it myself, but that doesn't mean it's not good. I just don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poke_(Hawaiian_dish)

Nope. The Hawaiian Poke is what I had for dinner a couple of nights ago. Delicious, and a favourite food. "Poke salad" is made from the poisonous weeds. Ask billy.p.

Don't be so hard on poke salad. Even chicken is poisonous when not prepared correctly. Probably safer than a lot of stuff we eat and way safer than those puffer fish.

No chance of an upset stomach rinsed after cooking.

Don't you pick mushrooms?

Is it easy to prepare pokeweed?

I do some mushroom foraging. Chanterelles, chicken of the woods, hen of the woods, and oysters. Haven't found lions mane yet.

I found a trail in Pisgah Forest last summer with a bunch of chanterelles. Gonna check back this year again for them.

[Vrede too]

Well, in the course of my reading, it's not that difficult to prepare, but it is essential to prepare it properly. From what I gathered:

1) Select only new young growth - leaves and tender stems.

2) Never try to eat the root or any part of it.

3) Boil the leaves/tender shoots ion plenty of water - I seem to recall 20 minutes. Then drain, rinse, and boil again in fresh boiling water. Do this at least three times. This is to get rid of the poison.

4) Never eat the berries. They are too toxic at any phase of their development. Similarly for the roots. Avoid older growth. Avoid plants that have flowered. Avoid getting the sap on your skin - one of the toxins can be absorbed through the skin.

The site I found said the leaves wind up tasting a bit like spinach, and the shoots a bit like asparagus.

Symptoms of poke weed poisoning: extreme vomiting, difficulty breathing, death.

I think I'll pass on poke weed.

It makes you wonder how people - Native Americans, I assume - got past dying from the root or any part of it, berries, older growth, plants that have flowered, sap, and only boiling twice to discover that it's tasty and safe after 3 boilings.

billy.pilgrim?

[billy.pilgrim]

Well, in the course of my reading, it's not that difficult to prepare, but it is essential to prepare it properly. From what I gathered:

1) Select only new young growth - leaves and tender stems.

2) Never try to eat the root or any part of it.

3) Boil the leaves/tender shoots ion plenty of water - I seem to recall 20 minutes. Then drain, rinse, and boil again in fresh boiling water. Do this at least three times. This is to get rid of the poison.

4) Never eat the berries. They are too toxic at any phase of their development. Similarly for the roots. Avoid older growth. Avoid plants that have flowered. Avoid getting the sap on your skin - one of the toxins can be absorbed through the skin.

The site I found said the leaves wind up tasting a bit like spinach, and the shoots a bit like asparagus.

Symptoms of poke weed poisoning: extreme vomiting, difficulty breathing, death.

I think I'll pass on poke weed.

It makes you wonder how people - Native Americans, I assume - got past dying from the root or any part of it, berries, older growth, plants that have flowered, sap, and only boiling twice to discover that it's tasty and safe after 3 boilings.

billy.pilgrim?

Likely no different than many other foods.

How do we know that certain mushrooms are poisonous and some are edible?

Reckon what kind of experimenting and deaths came before a safe way to eat pufferfish was found.

All in all, learning to cook and rinse was probably an easier step than discovering how to bake a cake.

[neoplacebo]

There used to be a tv commercial promoting something I can't remember; it was something to eat and the ad just had a bunch of kids in it. A mother brings out something to eat and all the kids look at her like she's crazy and one of the kids says "let's give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything" so they do, Mikey eats it, and the alpha kid says "he likes it." I suppose this is a testament to the power of advertising and also a revelation of the flaws of advertising; I remember the ad but not what it was selling.

[billy.pilgrim]

You probably already knew this but were just clowining, but "Poke" (pronounced "po-kay") is a Hawaiian dish that has nothing to do with poke weed. Poke just means sliced. I've never had it myself, but that doesn't mean it's not good. I just don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poke_(Hawaiian_dish)

Nope. The Hawaiian Poke is what I had for dinner a couple of nights ago. Delicious, and a favourite food. "Poke salad" is made from the poisonous weeds. Ask billy.p.

Don't be so hard on poke salad. Even chicken is poisonous when not prepared correctly. Probably safer than a lot of stuff we eat and way safer than those puffer fish.

No chance of an upset stomach rinsed after cooking.

Don't you pick mushrooms?

Is it easy to prepare pokeweed?

I do some mushroom foraging. Chanterelles, chicken of the woods, hen of the woods, and oysters. Haven't found lions mane yet.

I found a trail in Pisgah Forest last summer with a bunch of chanterelles. Gonna check back this year again for them.

Well, in the course of my reading, it's not that difficult to prepare, but it is essential to prepare it properly. From what I gathered:

1) Select only new young growth - leaves and tender stems.

2) Never try to eat the root or any part of it.

3) Boil the leaves/tender shoots ion plenty of water - I seem to recall 20 minutes. Then drain, rinse, and boil again in fresh boiling water. Do this at least three times. This is to get rid of the poison.

4) Never eat the berries. They are too toxic at any phase of their development. Similarly for the roots. Avoid older growth. Avoid plants that have flowered. Avoid getting the sap on your skin - one of the toxins can be absorbed through the skin.

The site I found said the leaves wind up tasting a bit like spinach, and the shoots a bit like asparagus.

Symptoms of poke weed poisoning: extreme vomiting, difficulty breathing, death.

I think I'll pass on poke weed.

Or you could cook it the right way and not experience any symptoms of poisoning.

Or go to one of the festivals where someone can prepare it for you

https://www.pokesalletfestival.com/

And interestingly I read that it is being served in some restaurants now.

Having to eat poke salad has long been a sign of poverty. As that stigma is forgotten maybe it will regain some popularity. Its actually pretty good - a lot more like spinach than other greens.

[billy.pilgrim]

There used to be a tv commercial promoting something I can't remember; it was something to eat and the ad just had a bunch of kids in it. A mother brings out something to eat and all the kids look at her like she's crazy and one of the kids says "let's give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything" so they do, Mikey eats it, and the alpha kid says "he likes it." I suppose this is a testament to the power of advertising and also a revelation of the flaws of advertising; I remember the ad but not what it was selling.

Life cereal

[Vrede too]

There used to be a tv commercial promoting something I can't remember; it was something to eat and the ad just had a bunch of kids in it. A mother brings out something to eat and all the kids look at her like she's crazy and one of the kids says "let's give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything" so they do, Mikey eats it, and the alpha kid says "he likes it." I suppose this is a testament to the power of advertising and also a revelation of the flaws of advertising; I remember the ad but not what it was selling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQ0LZSnJFE

[neoplacebo]

There used to be a tv commercial promoting something I can't remember; it was something to eat and the ad just had a bunch of kids in it. A mother brings out something to eat and all the kids look at her like she's crazy and one of the kids says "let's give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything" so they do, Mikey eats it, and the alpha kid says "he likes it." I suppose this is a testament to the power of advertising and also a revelation of the flaws of advertising; I remember the ad but not what it was selling.

Life cereal

Oh, thanks. I myself have never eaten it, and I don't know anybody named Mikey so I guess I'm safe. My cereal is Corn Flakes or Raisin Bran. Maybe I will come out with a cereal named "Death" as an alternate choice for "Life."

[neoplacebo]

There used to be a tv commercial promoting something I can't remember; it was something to eat and the ad just had a bunch of kids in it. A mother brings out something to eat and all the kids look at her like she's crazy and one of the kids says "let's give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything" so they do, Mikey eats it, and the alpha kid says "he likes it." I suppose this is a testament to the power of advertising and also a revelation of the flaws of advertising; I remember the ad but not what it was selling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQ0LZSnJFE

Seems my memory isn't too exacting.....I posted that Mikey will eat anything but instead Mikey hates everything.....except Life.

[Vrede too]

Oh, thanks. I myself have never eaten it, and I don't know anybody named Mikey so I guess I'm safe. My cereal is Corn Flakes or Raisin Bran.

I always liked it, was my fav at times. Haven't had it in a long time, I get all my cereals and granola at the Co-op.

Maybe I will come out with a cereal named "Death" as an alternate choice for "Life."

Close enough.

[billy.pilgrim]

There used to be a tv commercial promoting something I can't remember; it was something to eat and the ad just had a bunch of kids in it. A mother brings out something to eat and all the kids look at her like she's crazy and one of the kids says "let's give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything" so they do, Mikey eats it, and the alpha kid says "he likes it." I suppose this is a testament to the power of advertising and also a revelation of the flaws of advertising; I remember the ad but not what it was selling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQ0LZSnJFE

Seems my memory isn't too exacting.....I posted that Mikey will eat anything but instead Mikey hates everything.....except Life.

That's the way I remember it too. Could be there were alternate takes.

[billy.pilgrim]

Nope. The Hawaiian Poke is what I had for dinner a couple of nights ago. Delicious, and a favourite food. "Poke salad" is made from the poisonous weeds. Ask billy.p.

Don't be so hard on poke salad. Even chicken is poisonous when not prepared correctly. Probably safer than a lot of stuff we eat and way safer than those puffer fish.

No chance of an upset stomach rinsed after cooking.

Don't you pick mushrooms?

Is it easy to prepare pokeweed?

I do some mushroom foraging. Chanterelles, chicken of the woods, hen of the woods, and oysters. Haven't found lions mane yet.

I found a trail in Pisgah Forest last summer with a bunch of chanterelles. Gonna check back this year again for them.

Well, in the course of my reading, it's not that difficult to prepare, but it is essential to prepare it properly. From what I gathered:

1) Select only new young growth - leaves and tender stems.

2) Never try to eat the root or any part of it.

3) Boil the leaves/tender shoots ion plenty of water - I seem to recall 20 minutes. Then drain, rinse, and boil again in fresh boiling water. Do this at least three times. This is to get rid of the poison.

4) Never eat the berries. They are too toxic at any phase of their development. Similarly for the roots. Avoid older growth. Avoid plants that have flowered. Avoid getting the sap on your skin - one of the toxins can be absorbed through the skin.

The site I found said the leaves wind up tasting a bit like spinach, and the shoots a bit like asparagus.

Symptoms of poke weed poisoning: extreme vomiting, difficulty breathing, death.

I think I'll pass on poke weed.

Or you could cook it the right way and not experience any symptoms of poisoning.

Or go to one of the festivals where someone can prepare it for you

https://www.pokesalletfestival.com/

And interestingly I read that it is being served in some restaurants now.

Having to eat poke salad has long been a sign of poverty. As that stigma is forgotten maybe it will regain some popularity. Its actually pretty good - a lot more like spinach than other greens.

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psilocybin - another consumable that required some initial testing

Not sure if I've already told my Ethel story. Maybe I'll have time later.

[billy.pilgrim]

Sassafras (root beer) can cause cancer and even kill. People have drunk the tea forever, but it's taken modern science to understand that the safrole in sassafras root bark is toxic.