This Is Just The beginning

[Supsalemgr]

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20264 ... support-us

Here we go. Now the "takers" are coming out of the woodwork. They believed Obama was going to take care of them.

What idioscy. Don't these people realize the USA is BROKE?

[O Really]

I think it's pretty common for supporters of a given candidate to expect something in return. I'm guessing all those funders of the super PACs would have said something similar if they hadn't wasted their money. I'm thinking she's not the only person who might think their municipality would qualify for some federal assistance, given the miserable state it's in. I'm thinking also that most people wouldn't consider a country BROKE if it had $125 billion lying around to spend on a futile war in Afghanistan.

So - Super-S, find us an example of somebody making a political contribution or actively working for a candidate for any office who didn't expect something from it. Not necessarily a personal favor, but something.

[Supsalemgr]

I don't disagree all expect something. However, Obama basically led folks to believe he would give them "stuff". I was really pointing out the mentality this woman has. Care to address that point?

My solution for Detroit. declare bankruptcy and go the normal restructuring process so reality can check in for a rare visit.

[Stinger]

However, Obama basically led folks to believe he would give them "stuff".

Really? And how did he do that? Quote something he did or said that led people to believe he would give them something. Don't spin and twist and beat around the bush. Just come out and tell us exactly what he said.

Care to address that point?

Care to make one?

[O Really]

I was really pointing out the mentality this woman has. Care to address that point?

No. She is what she is, and she thinks what she thinks. Disagree with her views as you will but lest you think she's ignorant or stupid, think again...

http://www.detroitmi.gov/CityCouncil/Co ... atson.aspx

[O Really]

I don't disagree all expect something. However, Obama basically led folks to believe he would give them "stuff". I was really pointing out the mentality this woman has. Care to address that point?

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BTW, Obama wouldn't have had to promise "stuff" to get Detroit to vote for him. And he wouldn't have had to be blackish. Check Detroit voting history for the last several decades. There's one common thread - they nogonna vote for a Republican.

[Colonel Taylor]

What a dolt, all she has to do is raise taxes on the richest 2% in the city and all will be fixed!

[Supsalemgr]

"Gimme Me, Gimme me!" I voted for the ------.

[Bungalow Bill]

Still not taking it very well.

[O Really]

"Gimme Me, Gimme me!" I voted for the ------.

So if your guy had been elected, you would have expected him NOT to do anything for Detroit, right? What's the difference - it's just different sides of the same question. If Mitt had been elected and decided to "bail out" Detroit, you'd be screaming bloody murder, and you know it. If you support a candidate, you expect something from him/her.

[Reality]

Top 100 Most Dangerous cities; Detroit is # 6.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighb ... dangerous/

Worst Run cities; Detroit is # 2.

"The city has been in a tough spot for decades, but continued problems with corruption and poor management have not helped matters."

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/best-wo ... -1C7101040

Maybe Ms Watson should concentrate more on eliminating "continuing problems with corruption and poor management" and less time on asking for a handout.

[Colonel Taylor]

"Gimme Me, Gimme me!" I voted for the ------.

So if your guy had been elected, you would have expected him NOT to do anything for Detroit, right? What's the difference - it's just different sides of the same question. If Mitt had been elected and decided to "bail out" Detroit, you'd be screaming bloody murder, and you know it. If you support a candidate, you expect something from him/her.

So you expect something from the guvmit because you voted for him, this is the problem with the libs it's always gimme gimme gimme. You were a lawyer you say didn't you make enough on your own? What do you want from Obama OReally? Just wondering is all.
I wanted nothing from Romney and I want nothing from Obama. I would let Detroit go belly up. then bulldoze the entire city, then hold elections and start over. My first order would be to build a HUGE jail for the thugs (politicians) and work from there. So simple.
But you think we should just keep dumping money down the rat hole ha? Figures.

[O Really]

If you actually read my posts, Colonel, you would find that I didn't offer any opinion on whether or not Detroit should get federal money. I probably would have offered an opinion except that wasn't really Super-S's topic. He was, as usual, ridiculing the Council Member's belief that Obama should sent money to Detroit, and her comments relating to it. I simply pointed out, and stand by, that everyone who votes for a candidate wants something. They may want the candidate to do something, or not to do something. You said you wanted nothing from Romney - yet you clearly wanted him - at least - to not do things Obama had done, or to do different things.

[Colonel Taylor]

If you actually read my posts, Colonel, you would find that I didn't offer any opinion on whether or not Detroit should get federal money. I probably would have offered an opinion except that wasn't really Super-S's topic. He was, as usual, ridiculing the Council Member's belief that Obama should sent money to Detroit, and her comments relating to it. I simply pointed out, and stand by, that everyone who votes for a candidate wants something. They may want the candidate to do something, or not to do something. You said you wanted nothing from Romney - yet you clearly wanted him - at least - to not do things Obama had done, or to do different things.

OK

[Reality]

O'R, your words "No. She is what she is, and she thinks what she thinks. Disagree with her views as you will but lest you think she's ignorant or stupid, think again...
..and you followed that up with a full page bio/resume of her education and social achievements.

She was asking for pay back, plain and simple, because 95% of the people she has worked for her entire life voted for Obama based on the color of his skin; their skin also. The article that contained the worst managed cities in the US in which Detroit was # 2 stated that mismangement and corruption had continued for decades - that would cover a significant part of the time that she has been there and would cover a significnat part of the time that auto manufacturing was booming, couldn't blame Detroit's dilemma on the economy.

She may not be ignorant or stupid but she is ignorant of what is best for that element of our population that she has worked so hard for and that is the continuing "you owe me" attitude. She is a female Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton rolled into one.

[O Really]

What do you want from Obama OReally? Just wondering is all.

Reasonable question - here's an answer:
I want him to get us the rest of the way out of Afghanistan, and avoid other ill-considered invasions.
I want him to appoint a couple of non-right wing Supreme Court Justices
I want him to get on the stick with other judicial appointments
I want him not to blink when dealing with the extreme right
I want him to be negotiable when dealing with reasonable Republicans
I want him to actively support and defend civil liberties and personal rights
I want him to actively support and defend efforts to protect and improve our environment and natural resources
I want him to continue to support improvements in what is now "Obamacare" to assure that eventually it does result in universal coverage.
I want him to appoint Cabinet members and agency heads that are knowledgeable about the area they lead.

There's more, but I'd be happy with those. (Not that I actually expect to get all that)

[O Really]

...
She was asking for pay back, plain and simple, because 95% of the people she has worked for her entire life voted for Obama based on the color of his skin; their skin also.
...
She is a female Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton rolled into one.

It was probably more than 95% in her own circle. All of whom also voted for all the white guys the Dems have run over the years. They might be poor, but they're not brain-dead enough to vote for Republicans. Didn't you see what the Colonel wanted to do with Detroit?

As to being a combination Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, I'd consider that a compliment, although you undoubtedly didn't intend it to be one. Jackson and Sharpton aren't the same person, but each has his own positives and negatives. I don't always agree with them - usually don't - and don't particularly like them personally either. But they've been valuable in fighting for civil rights for years, and in bringing attention to things that without a bit of "outrageousness" would undoubtedly go unnoticed and unaddressed.

[k9nanny]

She should call Bobby Ritchie

[Stinger]

If you actually read my posts, Colonel, you would find that I didn't offer any opinion on whether or not Detroit should get federal money. I probably would have offered an opinion except that wasn't really Super-S's topic. He was, as usual, ridiculing the Council Member's belief that Obama should sent money to Detroit, and her comments relating to it. I simply pointed out, and stand by, that everyone who votes for a candidate wants something. They may want the candidate to do something, or not to do something. You said you wanted nothing from Romney - yet you clearly wanted him - at least - to not do things Obama had done, or to do different things.

Like Sheldon Adelson didn't want anything in return for his $30 million.

[Stinger]

She was asking for pay back, plain and simple, because 95% of the people she has worked for her entire life voted for Obama based on the color of his skin; their skin also.

That's been debunked so thoroughly, so many times, that I have a hard time believing that you -- even you -- could post that.

Just dumb.