And the winner is ... dirty campaigning

[Reality]

"...Since Republican voters have, on balance, more decency than Democrats,...."

"Modern Democrats have much lower standards of decency — the dirtier the better — ..."

http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/201 ... ?p=2&tc=pg

O'really, are you a modern democrat?

[O Really]

That's an opinion piece, by no less than one-pony Fogle. Need I say I disagree with the premise, so there's no point in arguing the details?

[rstrong]

Forum topic based on John Fogle rant.

[Reality]

Really O'really? Since when have you quit arguing the details because you disagreed with the premise?

[Reality]

We read your rants rstrong. Not much difference.

[O Really]

Really O'really? Since when have you quit arguing the details because you disagreed with the premise?

I never do. What's the point? I'll be happy to argue about the premise itself, however, if you like. I'm pretty sure it would be remarkably easy to find multiple instances of Republicans making up stuff about the opposition - and sometimes their own - without protest from other Republicans. Fogle says Republicans are inherently more decent than Dems. I say that's incorrect, and could prove it by reminding you who spread the rumor about McCain's illegitimate black baby. Hint - it wasn't Dems.

[Stinger]

That's an opinion piece, by no less than one-pony Fogle. Need I say I disagree with the premise, so there's no point in arguing the details?

I've read a few of Fogle's columns, . . . but not one where he got anything factually right.

Bothering to rebut anything he says is a waste of time.

Arguing with anyone dumb enough to chug Fogle Kool Aid is an even bigger waste of time.

But ...

Republicans can't campaign dirty? Ask John McCain about that.

[Bungalow Bill]

And the loser is.....Foolgle and his fellow nutjobs. Foolgle is delusional. He can't stand
that Obama won, so he's going to dip into his idiotic Republicans are so much better than
Democrats shtick, which anybody with even a little knowledge of contemporary politics
knows is pure bullshit, pure Foolgle bullshit. Look at the fact check sites and Republicans
are equal or worse when it comes to campaign distortions and lies. Of course he has
nothing of sense to communicate, so he goes with the old doom and gloom thing, disaster
ahead. Keep this column to see how stupid his predictions are. And the same day his
sky is falling column comes out, the UE rates drops to 7.7%. Foolgle=Hilarious.

[O Really]

Speaking of "decent" Republicans and their clean campaigns, does anybody remember Helms' "Hands" ad?
If not, here it is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIyewCdXMzk
Listen kiddies, can you say "appeal to the racist demo of the electorate?"

[O Really]

I'm sure it was unintentional, but Fogle probably forgot - or maybe didn't know about - Nixon's Watergate adventure, Willie Horton, Swift-boating, threats to publish nude pics of Ross Perot's daughter, Rove's story that Ann Richards was gay, payments to Arkansas troopers to trash Clinton, Whitewater, Rove's story about McCain being a stoolie with a drug addict wife, trashing of Vietnam hero Max Clelland, outing of Valerie Plume, Rove claim that Kerry would "ban the Bible" in the US, and yada and yada. Of course, the "decent" Republicans expressed outrage of all these things, and particularly in Rove's case, banned him to Siberia. Oh wait...they didn't?

[O Really]

Faux Noise has now essentially booted Rove, but I'm sure that was for wasting so much money rather than the dirty campaigning he did with it.

Sure, they have - at least temporarily - booted Rove and Morris, but it was clearly because they helped to increase the ridicule level directed toward Faux. But Foolgle's premise was pretty clear - he said if anybody engaged in "dirty campaigns" Republicans would rise up in shock, being aghast, and outraged. Ummm, opps. They aren't.

Nobody - nobody - on the Republican side has criticized Rove, nor have they criticized the birfers. Even those who try to distance themselves from birfers don't really criticize them. Certainly not to the extent Foolgle implies. I wouldn't try to argue that Dems always wear white hats and silver armor - politics is, at the heart of it, a dirty business. But to claim Republicans are Tess Truheart while Dems are the Joker is pretty extreme even for Foolgle.

I did notice, however, that Foolgle couldn't manage to get through the column without using the term "union bosses." I think he probably couldn't get through the day without saying that at least once.

[rstrong]

What was the low point of dirty campaigning in 2012?

Was it Florida robocalls that accused Romney of "forcing Holocaust survivors to eat non-kosher food" while he was Governor of Massachusetts?

Was it the 27-minute documentary titled "When Mitt Romney Came to Town", which painted Romney as a "predatory corporate raider"? The Washington Post's "Fact Checker" gave the film their most damning rating of "4 Pinocchios".

What it another candidate calling Romney a" timid Massachusetts moderate?"

Was it their suggesting that Romney should "give back all the money he's earned from bankrupting companies and laying off employees over his years at Bain."

Was it their highlighting Romney's 1990 to 1993 tenure as a corporate director of Damon Corporation, a medical testing company that paid $119 million in criminal fines and a civil settlement in 1996 for defrauding Medicare?

Was it the accusations that even Republican voters didn't trust Romney?

Was it the claims that Romney belonged to a cult?

Oh, wait.... Those were all attacks by Romney's fellow Republicans.

[Reality]

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Fogle hit a nerve. Imagine that?

[neoplacebo]

I always thought Fogle was a long term social / journalistic experiment sponsored by a major Northeastern universitys Sociology Department in an effort to discover just how much wacko idiocy could be printed with a straight face and once that baseline is reached, then determine how many readers will actually believe such hogwash. But I could be wrong.

[Stinger]

I'm still convinced that the HT-N management publishes him as a way of smearing cons.

Possibly. I think they're trying to convince the 50% or so of Republicans who are stupid enough to believe the Obama-is-a-Kenyan-Muslim-anti-Pledge-of-Allegiance-communist-Marxist-son-of-Frank-Davis-Manchurian-Candidate-gun-stealing-gay-metrosexual-Arab-loving-Israeli-hating Kool Aid that the media isn't liberal.

In doing so, they provide proof to the world that right-wing nutjobs are simply so lost in their ideological fog that they can't see the world in anything close to a realistic manner.

And they -- inadvertently -- provide some laughs to those who are able to see the world in at least a somewhat realistic manner.

In Fogle's case, some genuine earth-shaking belly laughs.

[Stinger]

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Fogle hit a nerve. Imagine that?

What is it with the nutters? They post comedic dysentery, and while you're rolling on the floor, laughing at their illogic and gullibility, they strut around with their chests puffed out, imagining that they "hit a nerve."

I guess their delusions of adequacy make sense when you consider that they live in a world of delusion anyway.

[O Really]

Super PACs Sponsor Bulk of Presidential Ads; Obama, Crossroads GPS Battle in Same States

(MIDDLETOWN, CT) – The 2012 presidential race is shaping up to be an overwhelmingly negative one, much more negative than the 2008 contest to date. As Table 1 shows, 7 out of 10 of the ads aired in this year’s presidential contests have been negative—that is, they mentioned an opponent. This compares to fewer than 1 in 10 ads aired during the 2008 presidential race up to this point that were negative.


Table 1: Tone of Ads in Presidential Race (2008 and 2012)*

[O Really]

Fogle doesn't lie. He believes everything he says. Nobody who knew they were lying could possibly expect anybody to believe Foglese. There's a limit to the "big lie" theory.

[Stinger]

Stinger, I agree with you that the HT-N could be trying to appeal to Republicans but we have lots of smart, articulate, honest, retired Republicans here in Henderson County. That it chooses to feature John Fogle has to be a plot to make fun of gullible lap dogs like "Reality".

I was going to put a disclaimer that the intelligent cons would be embarrassed about Fogle's brain-dead ramblings. I know a few. Unfortunately, I know many more cons who would add an "Amen" to the end of Fogle's stupidity.

Maybe no one else has stepped forward. Maybe they just don't have anything better to offer. William Buckley was vastly outnumbered (and out-densed) by subpar columnists on the right.

Then again, maybe they like to laugh at the extremely dimwitted and gullible . . . like Butt Ugly.

[Reality]

Could someone hand me more grease?

Such reaction indicates JF is on target.