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Deadly tornadoes slam through six states
At least 30 tornadoes were reported across six states: Arkansas, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, Mississippi and Tennessee.

At least 70 people are likely dead after multiple tornadoes barreled through southwestern Kentucky late Friday, Gov. Andy Beshear said. Other deaths have been reported in Arkansas and Illinois.

The potential for more severe weather continues over the weekend as the system moves east.
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OSHA opens probe into deadly Amazon warehouse collapse in Illinois
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration is investigating a deadly collapse at an Amazon warehouse in Edwardsville, Illinois, an agency spokesperson said Monday. The collapse was caused by a tornado Friday that devastated the area.

Six workers were killed, one was injured and 45 people were rescued safely, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said in a press conference Saturday.

The twister was one of at least 30 tornadoes that left a path of destruction across several states, including Kentucky, where more than 60 people were confirmed dead.

The National Weather Service said a tornado touched down in Edwardsville at approximately 8:35 p.m. local time Friday. Walls on both sides of the warehouse collapsed inward, while the roof collapsed downward, Edwardsville Fire Chief James Whiteford said in a news conference Saturday.
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OK, this is tragic, but I'm wondering why the far greater death toll in Kentucky (60+) is being eclipsed by the regrettable six dead in Illinois. Is the fact that it's an Amazon warehouse a factor in the news coverage? I figure most people don't know the name of the Kentucky candle factory that squashed more than half its employees.

Anyway, it's all bad, I just hope OSHA is also investigating what went wrong at the Kentucky candle factory too, with an eye toward preventing future such mishaps. Could some sort of underground tornado shelter being required at all such factories be a logical requirement?

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A building collapsing from a tornado isn't necessarily an OSHA issue. But I think there were claims at the Amazon plant that either they wouldn't let the employees leave, or did/failed to do something else that affected the injuries and deaths.

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Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:25 pm
OK, this is tragic, but I'm wondering why the far greater death toll in Kentucky (60+) is being eclipsed by the regrettable six dead in Illinois. Is the fact that it's an Amazon warehouse a factor in the news coverage? I figure most people don't know the name of the Kentucky candle factory that squashed more than half its employees.

Anyway, it's all bad, I just hope OSHA is also investigating what went wrong at the Kentucky candle factory too, with an eye toward preventing future such mishaps. Could some sort of underground tornado shelter being required at all such factories be a logical requirement?
Safety questions raised as rescuers scour Kentucky candle factory debris

The Mayfield Consumer Products factory was the third-biggest employer in this corner of western Kentucky, an important economic engine that churned out candles that lined the shelves of malls around the U.S.

But why its workers kept making candles Friday night as a tornado bore down on the region remains unclear as rescuers continue scouring the factory wreckage for signs of life.

Kentucky's governor said Sunday the ferocity of the storm was so great that there was nowhere safe to hide inside the plant.

"It appears most were sheltering in the place they were told to shelter," Governor Andy Beshear said. "I hope that area was as safe as it could be, but this thing got hit directly by the strongest tornado we could have possibly imagined."

A company spokesperson said Sunday that eight of the 110 workers on the overnight shift Friday are confirmed dead and another eight are missing. More than 90 have now been accounted for, making the death toll lower than some had feared hours earlier.

"Many of the employees were gathered in the tornado shelter and after the storm was over they left the plant and went to their homes,"
said Bob Ferguson, the company spokesperson. "With the power out and no landline they were hard to reach initially."

Workers said they had been told to huddle in a central hallway area, the strongest part of the building, as the storm approached. Some had already left earlier in the night following a warning siren, they said....
If safety questions are already being raised can OSHA be far behind?
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O Really wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:44 pm
A building collapsing from a tornado isn't necessarily an OSHA issue. But I think there were claims at the Amazon plant that either they wouldn't let the employees leave, or did/failed to do something else that affected the injuries and deaths.
Has to be something like that; of course Jeff could have bribed local officials or his builder to cut corners so he could save a few thousand dollars.
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O Really wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:44 pm
A building collapsing from a tornado isn't necessarily an OSHA issue. But I think there were claims at the Amazon plant that either they wouldn't let the employees leave, or did/failed to do something else that affected the injuries and deaths.
One issue that I heard mentioned on TV is that the ban on phones prevented warnings from reaching the employees. Idk, I've seen how distracting phones can be in the workplace, and can imagine them being a safety hazard in an industrial setting. However, there should be some way of doing disaster alerting. Idk the Amazon details.
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Has to be something like that; of course Jeff could have bribed local officials or his builder to cut corners so he could save a few thousand dollars.
If Amazon and Bezos paid taxes there would be more money theoretically available for disaster prevention and response.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:44 pm
A building collapsing from a tornado isn't necessarily an OSHA issue. But I think there were claims at the Amazon plant that either they wouldn't let the employees leave, or did/failed to do something else that affected the injuries and deaths.
Has to be something like that; of course Jeff could have bribed local officials or his builder to cut corners so he could save a few thousand dollars.
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Yes, that would make more sense. What something else was Amazon supposed to do? And the candle factory toll, again, is much worse than the Amazon distribution center toll. The survivor story I read is quite harrowing. She was lucky to be alive (pinned under multiple large pieces of equipment).

And again, if tornadoes are a feature of these regions, shouldn't ALL structures intended for human presence therein have some sort of tornado shelter? OTOH, it sounds like in the case of the Amazon factory, the tornado started in the parking lot, which would not have given much warning. Still, what with tornado outbreaks spanning six states, staying at home in the cellar might be the best choice; if one has a tornado proof cellar to stay in.

Out this way, tornados are extremely rare. I think one has been sighted in the 60 or so years I've lived here. The big threat is earthquakes, and Reaganite Republicans, but perhaps that's grist for another thread.

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Yes, that would make more sense. What something else was Amazon supposed to do? And the candle factory toll, again, is much worse than the Amazon distribution center toll. The survivor story I read is quite harrowing. She was lucky to be alive (pinned under multiple large pieces of equipment).

And again, if tornadoes are a feature of these regions, shouldn't ALL structures intended for human presence therein have some sort of tornado shelter? ...
This is how you make a fool of yourself by childishly cowering with ignore.
The candle factory toll is NOT "much worse than the Amazon distribution center toll," but it MAY be worse.
The candle factory did have a designated shelter space. Whether it was legally sufficient and whether more should have been done are separate questions that we're unable to discuss as long as you're posting from self-imposed ignorance.
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There's that rat in the wall again.

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Just saw this update on the Kentucky candle factory tornado tragedy:

74 dead, more than 100 still unaccounted for in Kentucky tornado disaster
Rescuers continued to search for survivors Monday after tornadoes tore through Kentucky and neighboring states over the weekend, devastating entire towns and killing dozens of people.

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear said in an update Monday afternoon that 74 people in the state had been confirmed dead and that over 100 others were unaccounted for, with both numbers expected to grow.

Beshear said Monday morning that it would take “a week or even more before we have a final count on the number of lost lives," saying the "mountain of waste" included perished livestock.

Flags at government buildings will be flown at half-staff for a week beginning Tuesday, and a state fund will pay for the funerals of those who have died, Beshear said.

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Lotta rats in these walls.

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Ulysses wrote:
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Busted not using ignore, again. Your lies about that are hilarious and pitiful.
Ulysses wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:23 pm
Just saw this update on the Kentucky candle factory tornado tragedy:

You lie, typical when you're busted being wrong. The article is about the entire state.

74 dead, more than 100 still unaccounted for in Kentucky tornado disaster

You even quote:
... Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear said in an update Monday afternoon that 74 people in the state had been confirmed dead and that over 100 others were unaccounted for, with both numbers expected to grow....
What you deceptively do not quote is exactly what I said:
... At least eight people were confirmed dead after the roof of a candle factory in Mayfield collapsed....
You have posted and haven't had the stones to retract:
Ulysses wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:25 pm
OK, this is tragic, but I'm wondering why the far greater death toll in Kentucky (60+) is being eclipsed by the regrettable six dead in Illinois. Is the fact that it's an Amazon warehouse a factor in the news coverage? I figure most people don't know the name of the Kentucky candle factory that squashed more than half its employees.
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... the candle factory toll, again, is much worse than the Amazon distribution center toll....
Why are you such a moronic pussy?
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:52 pm
Cower, fact and sack challenged Useless, cower.
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Good boy. Is this really easier for you than just admitting that you got the candle factory death toll wrong, masochist?
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Vrede too wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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Cower, fact and sack challenged Useless, cower.
Ulysses wrote:
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Good boy. Is this really easier for you than just admitting that you got the candle factory death toll wrong, masochist?
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Oh well, I'm okay with enabling your masochism. Do it again, bitch.
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