Screw these people

[billy.pilgrim]

From the Shah to this piss-ant king Charles, fuck the all.

Ahhh, the poor kingie has to make a painful decision.

https://www.musicmundial.com/en/2023/01 ... am-palace/

[GoCubsGo]

From the Shah to this piss-ant king Charles, fuck the all.

Ahhh, the poor kingie has to make a painful decision.

https://www.musicmundial.com/en/2023/01 ... am-palace/

Maybe.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/har ... p_catchall
First world problems.

Why care?

I know I don't give a fuck. Don't give a crap about the Kardashians or Real Housewives either.

[O Really]

The British monarchy has rarely run smoothly. Elizabeth kept a lid on it, but in the age of instant (mis)information to everywhere and one roguish second tier heir, it reminds me of Don Henley.

[billy.pilgrim]

I'm mainly tired of the birthright crap with the smug accompanying smiles and also of the people who adore and step aside, or bow to these people.

[O Really]

I'm mainly tired of the birthright crap with the smug accompanying smiles and also of the people who adore and step aside, or bow to these people.

Everywhere has its traditions. There is a substantial percentage of people in England who would like to dump the monarchy, but they aren't a majority.

[billy.pilgrim]

I'm mainly tired of the birthright crap with the smug accompanying smiles and also of the people who adore and step aside, or bow to these people.

Everywhere has its traditions. There is a substantial percentage of people in England who would like to dump the monarchy, but they aren't a majority.

And an awful lot of royal groupies right here. Remember when all 3 networks and cnn (I think they were around) went 24/7 when the drunk royal was in a car crash?
trump fawning all over murderous dictators comes to mind.

[O Really]

trump fawning all over murderous dictators comes to mind.

I think that's more of a power thing. Following royals is more like celebrity fandom. The royals don't actually run the country, of course, but dropping the monarchy would be a massive change in national culture, personality, and life. Imagine changing the USA into the "United Socialist States"

[billy.pilgrim]

trump fawning all over murderous dictators comes to mind.

I think that's more of a power thing. Following royals is more like celebrity fandom. The royals don't actually run the country, of course, but dropping the monarchy would be a massive change in national culture, personality, and life. Imagine changing the USA into the "United Socialist States"

Kewl

[O Really]

trump fawning all over murderous dictators comes to mind.

I think that's more of a power thing. Following royals is more like celebrity fandom. The royals don't actually run the country, of course, but dropping the monarchy would be a massive change in national culture, personality, and life. Imagine changing the USA into the "United Socialist States"

Kewl

Well sure - for us. But for many, if not most US citizens it would be traumatic for a long time.

[Vrede too]

And an awful lot of royal groupies right here. Remember when all 3 networks and cnn (I think they were around) went 24/7 when the drunk royal was in a car crash?
trump fawning all over murderous dictators comes to mind.

You mean the possibly sober AIDS activist, anti-landmine campaigning ex-royal driven by a drunk and drugged chauffeur? I didn't need 24/7, but I was sad.

[billy.pilgrim]

And an awful lot of royal groupies right here. Remember when all 3 networks and cnn (I think they were around) went 24/7 when the drunk royal was in a car crash?
trump fawning all over murderous dictators comes to mind.

You mean the possibly sober AIDS activist, anti-landmine campaigning ex-royal driven by a drunk and drugged chauffeur? I didn't need 24/7, but I was sad.

Why would a sober person de.and that her obviously drunk driver go faster?
Yeah they do have their little charities. I guess it makes them feel better.

[Vrede too]

You mean the possibly sober AIDS activist, anti-landmine campaigning ex-royal driven by a drunk and drugged chauffeur? I didn't need 24/7, but I was sad.

Why would a sober person demand that her obviously drunk driver go faster?
Yeah they do have their little charities. I guess it makes them feel better.

I'm unaware of Diana demanding "that her obviously drunk driver go faster". Got a citation?

C'mon, I'm fine with criticizing royalty as an institution and with criticizing media slavering over it, but Diana was far more than a donor.

She was literally a "hands on" AIDS activist well before it was popular and she risked both public and the Queen's disapproval:
How Princess Diana changed attitudes to Aids

Royal rage: How Diana fumed when Queen tried to stop her inspirational work with AIDS
THE QUEEN once tried to prevent Princess Diana from getting involved with the AIDS campaign in the Eighties, unearthed reports have claimed - although the royal's work with the cause turned out to be one of her greatest achievements.

... Diana famously said during a Children and AIDS Conference in April 1991: “AIDS does not make people dangerous to know, so you can shake their hands and give them a hug.

“Heaven knows they need it.” ...

At the time I was caring for AIDS patients in an SF ICU and Oakland ER.

Then, 2 Wiki articles mashed up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_ ... s_of_Wales

Landmines

Diana was the patron of the HALO Trust, an organisation that removes debris—particularly landmines—left behind by war. In January 1997, pictures of Diana touring an Angolan minefield in a ballistic helmet and flak jacket were seen worldwide. During her campaign, she was accused of meddling in politics and called a "loose cannon" by Earl Howe, an official in the British Ministry of Defence. Despite the criticism, HALO states that Diana's efforts resulted in raising international awareness about landmines and the subsequent sufferings caused by them. In June 1997, she gave a speech at a landmines conference held at the Royal Geographical Society, and travelled to Washington, D.C. to help promote the American Red Cross landmines campaign. From 7 to 10 August 1997, just days before her death, she visited Bosnia and Herzegovina with Jerry White and Ken Rutherford of the Landmine Survivors Network.

Her work on the landmines issue has been described as influential in the signing of the Ottawa Treaty, which created an international ban on the use of anti-personnel landmines. Introducing the Second Reading of the Landmines Bill 1998 to the British House of Commons, the Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, paid tribute to Diana's work on landmines:

All Honourable Members will be aware from their postbags of the immense contribution made by Diana, Princess of Wales to bringing home to many of our constituents the human costs of landmines. The best way in which to record our appreciation of her work, and the work of NGOs that have campaigned against landmines, is to pass the Bill, and to pave the way towards a global ban on landmines.

A few months after Diana's death in 1997, the International Campaign to Ban Landmines won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Reactions

Following her death, delegates at an international conference in Oslo to ban landmines paid their tributes to Diana, who was an avid campaigner for banning the explosive devices. The Ottawa Treaty, which created an international ban on the use of anti-personnel landmines, was adopted in Oslo, in September 1997 and signed by 122 States in Ottawa on 3 December 1997. Diana's work on the landmines issue has been described as influential in the signing of the treaty.

Landmine victims in Angola and Bosnia also honoured Diana with separate services, pointing out how her efforts had helped raise awareness about the damage caused by landmines. In Bosnia, a landmine survivor, Jasminko Bjelic, who had met Diana only three weeks earlier, said, "She was our friend."

"little charities"?

[O Really]

And an awful lot of royal groupies right here. Remember when all 3 networks and cnn (I think they were around) went 24/7 when the drunk royal was in a car crash?
trump fawning all over murderous dictators comes to mind.

You mean the possibly sober AIDS activist, anti-landmine campaigning ex-royal driven by a drunk and drugged chauffeur? I didn't need 24/7, but I was sad.

Why would a sober person de.and that her obviously drunk driver go faster?
Yeah they do have their little charities. I guess it makes them feel better.

Well, nobody knows if she actually demanded to go faster, but they were being chased. And, according to French investigators it wasn't apparent that he was over the legal limit.

Eric Gigou, who was part of the Brigade Criminelle team leading the investigation, recounted how details about the driver mysteriously appeared in the press.

He said: ‘In France, our investigations are secret, nothing is revealed to the press.

‘Every day there were articles with pseudo-revelations, some magazines were living off these “scoops”.’

He continued: ‘When you look at the CCTV from the Ritz, Mr Paul is behaving normally.

The wreckage of Princess Diana's car is lifted on a truck 31 August in the Alma tunnel of Paris. Princess Diana died a few hours after the crash at Paris hospital of La Pitie-Salpetriere of her injuries. / AFP PHOTO / PIERRE BOUSSEL (Photo credit should read PIERRE BOUSSEL/AFP/Getty Images)
The wreckage of Princess Diana’s car is removed from the Paris tunnel (Picture: AFP)
‘He does not stagger, he seems normal. If Henri Paul had stumbled or been incoherent he would never have got behind the wheel.

‘Did someone ask Henri to drive faster, I don’t know. No one knows.’

Martine Monteil, head of the Brigade Criminelle, added: ‘I think Mr Paul’s job was his life.’

By all accounts, including her detractors, Diana was a good person, which is why she had so many who adored her - the "People's Princess" and held her in separate regard from the rest of the royals.

[billy.pilgrim]

Sure, you can find scattered "good" royals, maybe even some who don't believe they have superior genes like my BIl, but even broken clocks and all that ...
I wouldn't piss on one if it was on fire.

[O Really]

So I'm guessing you're not going to tune in at 5 Eastern to watch the coronation ceremonies. Well, I'm not going to be up at 2 Pacific for it here, either, but I will watch it on DVR at a reasonable time. It's a big historical event in a country with a long history. If you go to York, my mum's old home town, there is a stone carved with the names and dates of all the Bishops of York. The first one is 314. Yes "3" 14. As in 300 years after the assumed birth of Jesus. I have ancestors traceable back to Harold, the last Anglo-Saxon. Lotta history, lotta appreciation for tradition and ceremony. Having said all that, though, I think Charles is a dick and that Diana's name for Camilla is appropriate.

[O Really]

My opinion on Charles seems to be shared by others.

"Giant penis mown onto Royal Crescent lawn before King's Coronation party"

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-w ... l-29894181

[Vrede too]

My opinion on Charles seems to be shared by others.

"Giant penis mown onto Royal Crescent lawn before King's Coronation party"

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-w ... l-29894181

This may be THE enduring image of the coronation. Bravo!



Would Nikki Haley insist on a cognitive test?

[Vrede too]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jill-biden-b ... 42131.html

First lady Jill Biden brought along her granddaughter Finnegan Biden to represent the U.S. at the coronation of King Charles III on Saturday.

The first lady, dressed in blue, arrived with her granddaughter — who wore a yellow dress — in an apparent show of support for the people of Ukraine as they arrived at Westminster Abbey ahead of the coronation....

Slava Ukraini!


First lady Jill Biden and her granddaughter Finnegan Biden arrive at Westminster Abbey on Saturday ahead of the coronations of King Charles III and Queen Camilla.

[GoCubsGo]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jill-biden-b ... 42131.html

First lady Jill Biden brought along her granddaughter Finnegan Biden to represent the U.S. at the coronation of King Charles III on Saturday.

The first lady, dressed in blue, arrived with her granddaughter — who wore a yellow dress — in an apparent show of support for the people of Ukraine as they arrived at Westminster Abbey ahead of the coronation....

Slava Ukraini!


First lady Jill Biden and her granddaughter Finnegan Biden arrive at Westminster Abbey on Saturday ahead of the coronations of King Charles III and Queen Camilla.

Good on the Biden's.

Maybe I've become a cynic, but don't all the royal ceremonies feel pretty much the same? There's the cathedral, music and a horsey procession with people dressed funny.


Maybe a balcony appearance.

[Vrede too]

Good on the Biden's.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... 5199617024

... The Democrats hate America.

I thought it was a joke until I saw that lying traitor Jenna Ellis is the author.

Maybe I've become a cynic, but don't all the royal ceremonies feel pretty much the same? There's the cathedral, music and a horsey procession with people dressed funny.


Maybe a balcony appearance.

You watch? That's less cynical than me.