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She ain't wrong.

Feckless older generation of leadership is skeered to get in the mud, once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

It's a surrender and if AOC is stating it correctly, a betrayal.
I'm failing to understand Schumer's reasoning.

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I'll never understand it.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:58 pm
She ain't wrong.

Feckless older generation of leadership is skeered to get in the mud, once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

It's a surrender and if AOC is stating it correctly, a betrayal.
I'm failing to understand Schumer's reasoning.

https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.socia ... eqn7u7u22c
Not the entire older generation. Ftr, Pelosi urged the Senate Dems to maintain solidarity with the House Dems. If I'm reading the votes correctly the important one was Motion to Invoke Cloture: H.R. 1968, ending any filibuster.
Required For Majority: 3/5. TV news said 10 Dems flipped.
The YEAs include:
Schumer (D-NY), as we know
Durbin (D-IL), Git him GoCubsGo
Fetterman (D-PA), Git him O Really
Gillibrand (D-NY), Sheesh unanimous state, git 'em AOC
Schatz (D-HI), Jasmine, you good with this?

Most of these Dems including Schumer switched sides for the final majority vote, no doubt so they can tell the unsophisticated that they opposed the bill. :ateeth:

There was one R rebel, Paul (R-KY) voted Nay.
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I think the Democrats only voted for this in order to prevent president Musk from doing even more damage during a period of paralyzed government. They probably all hated doing so but figured it was the best thing to do. As for the Republican "no" votes, it's no secret they are slap full of wingnuts. Some of them want to punish the vulnerable quicker than the others. They can't even agree on that. Hilarius.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:13 pm
I think the Democrats only voted for this in order to prevent president Musk from doing even more damage during a period of paralyzed government. They probably all hated doing so but figured it was the best thing to do. As for the Republican "no" votes, it's no secret they are slap full of wingnuts. Some of them want to punish the vulnerable quicker than the others. They can't even agree on that. Hilarious.
Rand Paul (R-KY) was the only one in the Senate, and I think Thomas Massie (R-KY) was the only one in the House.
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What's especially dumb is Schumer didn't even try to negotiate, the bill was ripe for it. If there was a weekend shutdown so what? The one bit of power they had in this congress they gave away.

Odds are there's a bunch of dumbfounded Republicans looking at each other going wtf?
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Great thread title. :lol:

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Since the question was asked elsewhere in redundant, attention-seeking thread - I don't feel knowledgeable enough in all the intricacies of this game of DC Chicken to form my own opinion. However, I trust AOC, Pelosi, the majority of Senate Dems, our next Speaker Jeffries and the unanimous House more that I do Schumer, a handful of Senate Dems and the GQP.
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 6:13 pm
Since the question was asked elsewhere in redundant, attention-seeking thread - I don't feel knowledgeable enough in all the intricacies of this game of DC Chicken to form my own opinion. However, I trust AOC, Pelosi, the majority of Senate Dems, our next Speaker Jeffries and the unanimous House more that I do Schumer, a handful of Senate Dems and the GQP.
:thumbup:

Maybe I'll merge the threads.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:07 pm
What's especially dumb is Schumer didn't even try to negotiate, the bill was ripe for it. If there was a weekend shutdown so what? The one bit of power they had in this congress they gave away.

Odds are there's a bunch of dumbfounded Republicans looking at each other going wtf?
Here Are The Democrats Who Advanced A GOP Bill To Avoid A Government Shutdown
Expect them all to face heavy intra-party criticism in the coming days.


In the end, nine senators who caucus with Democrats joined with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) in voting to advance legislation to avoid a government shutdown, essentially giving up Democratic leverage over President Donald Trump for the foreseeable future.

Their support meant the bill was able to break the 60-vote threshold to avoid a filibuster, 62-38.

The nine Democrats are a mix of moderates, close allies of Schumer, members who represent states with large populations of federal workers and senators on their way to retirement. All have implicitly blessed Schumer’s argument Trump and billionaire Elon Musk could do more damage to the federal government during a shutdown than they could under the continuing resolution, which was crafted entirely by conservative Republicans in the House.

“The off-ramp is in the hands of Donald Trump and Elon Musk and DOGE. We could be in a shutdown for six months or nine months,” Schumer told The New York Times earlier on Friday, arguing a shutdown would be far too unpredictable.
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Internal party critics have said Schumer gave up a rare moment of leverage far too easily, misplaying his hand after an often-fractious House Republican Caucus passed a party-line spending bill with Trump’s blessing....
As you say.
These nine senators are likely to share in Schumer’s political suffering, though none of them are an obvious target for an immediate primary challenge....
The other 9 Senators are listed, along with their individual interests and rationales.
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.): Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the party’s Senate leadership, is up for reelection in 2026 but is widely expected to retire.
Opps, NH joined NY is being unanimous for the bill./
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What People Are Saying

Ocasio-Cortez posted to X on Thursday, ahead of the Senate voting for the spending bill: "There are members of Congress who have won Trump-held districts in some of the most difficult territories in the United States, who walked the plank and took innumerable risks in order to defend the American people ... just to see some Senate Democrats even consider acquiescing to Elon Musk, I think it is a huge slap in the face and I think that there's a wide sense of betrayal."

Political commentator Brian Krassenstein posted to X, formerly Twitter, on Monday: "I couldn't care less what anyone says—AOC is the future of the Democratic Party because she actually prioritizes governing for the people instead of treating public office like a get-rich-quick scheme."
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Cow farts are destroying the planet. AOC can smell it. :lol:

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Can't say it enough, excellent thread title. :lol:

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 3:21 pm
When past is present.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8aKMaOewE
:thumbup: :(

It's significant that the Dems not cowering, Bernie! and AOC, are drawing the huge crowds. Crockett would, too, if she hits the road.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:08 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 3:21 pm
When past is present.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8aKMaOewE
:thumbup: :(

It's significant that the Dems not cowering, Bernie! and AOC, are drawing the huge crowds. Crockett would, too, if she hits the road.
And "Leader" Schumer folds like a cheap suit.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:08 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 3:21 pm
When past is present.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8aKMaOewE
:thumbup: :(

It's significant that the Dems not cowering, Bernie! and AOC, are drawing the huge crowds. Crockett would, too, if she hits the road.
How long before "the boys" of the democrat party silence Bernie, AOC, Jasmine and Timmy?

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:23 pm
And "Leader" Schumer folds like a cheap suit.
:roll: :(
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