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Burning a Qur'an in itself is nothing to anyone except the individual. But, when one seeks out attention before hand. When that promotion is spread far and wide then the burning can become much more than taking out the trash. When one knows that such burning will inflame the sensibilities such that those that protect their freedom of speech are further endangered that burning becomes a depraved indifference.

It is not the burning of the Qur'an that is the problem. It is the taunting of the enemy while hiding like cowards behind the very troops that protect all of your rights that is depraved indifference.

Hokiewoodchuck and lessthantolerant smugly pound their chest proclaiming an ability to defend them selves. They with great pomposity say proper training of children cloaks them with a shield of knowledgable protection. They say all that die in protection of freedom must not have been trained improperly. But, what they are actually doing is cowering behind those they enjoy seeing killed while they taunt the enemy.

I never said an American does not have a right to burn a Qur'an. I am saying those that do so in public so as to enflame our enemy and endanger the mission of United States troops are cowards and traitors.

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Tertius wrote: I never said an American does not have a right to burn a Qur'an. I am saying those that do so in public so as to enflame our enemy and endanger the mission of United States troops are cowards and traitors.
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I think buring a book is stupid. If you really want to make a statement, go with self immolation like the Buddhist monks did protesting the Vietnam puppet government back in the 60's or recently protesting China's trampling of Tibet. Book burning is bush league theatrics, tailor made for cowards and also rans.

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Tertius wrote:Burning a Qur'an in itself is nothing to anyone except the individual. But, when one seeks out attention before hand. When that promotion is spread far and wide then the burning can become much more than taking out the trash. When one knows that such burning will inflame the sensibilities such that those that protect their freedom of speech are further endangered that burning becomes a depraved indifference.

It is not the burning of the Qur'an that is the problem. It is the taunting of the enemy while hiding like cowards behind the very troops that protect all of your rights that is depraved indifference.
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Well said, Tert. You'd think those same people that get bent out of shape when somebody in Phar Bumphuk burns a US flag would be able to grasp that idea pretty quickly, but nooooo!

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O Really wrote:
Tertius wrote:Burning a Qur'an in itself is nothing to anyone except the individual. But, when one seeks out attention before hand. When that promotion is spread far and wide then the burning can become much more than taking out the trash. When one knows that such burning will inflame the sensibilities such that those that protect their freedom of speech are further endangered that burning becomes a depraved indifference.

It is not the burning of the Qur'an that is the problem. It is the taunting of the enemy while hiding like cowards behind the very troops that protect all of your rights that is depraved indifference.
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Well said, Tert. You'd think those same people that get bent out of shape when somebody in Phar Bumphuk burns a US flag would be able to grasp that idea pretty quickly, but nooooo!
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Tertius wrote: I never said an American does not have a right to burn a Qur'an. I am saying those that do so in public so as to enflame our enemy and endanger the mission of United States troops are cowards and traitors.
Well said. People who have to brag about how brave they are for burning Korans are more likely scared of their own shadows and have to talk big to convince themselves.

I say we buy them a ticket to Pakistan and let them burn a Koran in downtown Islamabad. Now that would prove how brave these little chicks really are.

I'm about 15 miles from Terry Jones of Dove Outreach, one of the least Christian, least patriotic a**holes around. He sent the kids in his church to public schools with "Islam is of the Devil" t-shirts. He burns Korans and incites the enemy. He's just a punk who craves attention. He can't get positive attention, so he gets negative attention, damn the consequences.

I wouldn't mind some jihadists taking him out, but they would probably want to get as many innocents as they could.

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Let's see.....the Palestinian children are indoctrinated with hating America. I guess this is PC in the arena.

A 14 year old Pakistani girl is shot for speaking out and using one of our freedoms....Freedom of Speech.....to fight for something as simple as a education.


AND YET!......you morons defend being 'quite and let's not offend' these animals.


I will side with the young lady from Pakistan.

I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.

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It is not the burning of the Qur'an that is the problem. It is the taunting of the enemy while hiding like cowards behind the very troops that protect all of your rights that is depraved indifference.

Hide under your bed old man, siding with other libs makes you sort of their favorite Butt Boy.

I do not advocate burning the Quran, I advocate the right to do so.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote: defend being 'quite and let's not offend' these animals.
Neil... seriously.. just how stupid are you? No one has said any such thing..

hokiewoodchuck wrote:I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.
And still you hide while someone else defends your arrogance.. If you did (you do not) have the courage of your convictions.. you'd be ranting in public rather than from your basement .. ..

Yours are the actions of the worst kind of coward.. one whose actions endangers others while you do nothing ..
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Crock Hunter wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote: defend being 'quite and let's not offend' these animals.
Neil... seriously.. just how stupid are you? No one has said any such thing..

hokiewoodchuck wrote:I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.
And still you hide while someone else defends your arrogance.. If you did (you do not) have the courage of your convictions.. you'd be ranting in public rather than from your basement .. ..

Yours are the actions of the worst kind of coward.. one whose actions endangers others while you do nothing ..

And your name is........??????

If you are willing to ask another then you should be the first to volunteer your name..............or is that too much to ask of a simpleton.

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Humm, dang Hoke you are already making friends I see. BTW, do you still think I work as a spy for the Herald :lol:

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:If you are willing to ask another then you should be the first to volunteer .
So should we be amazed at your hypocrisy ?? When you lip and/or burn Qur'ans are you not asking another man to absorb the reaction to your cowardice.. ??
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Crock Hunter wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote: defend being 'quite and let's not offend' these animals.
Neil... seriously.. just how stupid are you? No one has said any such thing..

hokiewoodchuck wrote:I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.
And still you hide while someone else defends your arrogance.. If you did (you do not) have the courage of your convictions.. you'd be ranting in public rather than from your basement .. ..

Yours are the actions of the worst kind of coward.. one whose actions endangers others while you do nothing ..

And your name is........??????

If you are willing to ask another then you should be the first to volunteer your name..............or is that too much to ask of a simpleton.
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Crock Hunter wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote: defend being 'quite and let's not offend' these animals.
Neil... seriously.. just how stupid are you? No one has said any such thing..

hokiewoodchuck wrote:I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.
And still you hide while someone else defends your arrogance.. If you did (you do not) have the courage of your convictions.. you'd be ranting in public rather than from your basement .. ..

Yours are the actions of the worst kind of coward.. one whose actions endangers others while you do nothing ..
Yet he was protecting your freedoms while he was serving in the Marines, a fact you obviously didn't know. BTW, what's with calling out forum members by their "supposed" name? If you can't observe the rules of an everyday American based forum, how in the world would you get along with radical thinking people? We're not where you want us to be in that regard and hopefully there are enough right thinking people left here to keep that from happening. No one really advocates the burning of the Muzlims precious little book of hatred for anyone that is not like they are to the point of murder. It is enough to actually know what their culture involves. It is also the freedom of Americans to reject them and their little book.

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keyboarder wrote:
Crock Hunter wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote: defend being 'quite and let's not offend' these animals.
Neil... seriously.. just how stupid are you? No one has said any such thing..

hokiewoodchuck wrote:I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.
And still you hide while someone else defends your arrogance.. If you did (you do not) have the courage of your convictions.. you'd be ranting in public rather than from your basement .. ..

Yours are the actions of the worst kind of coward.. one whose actions endangers others while you do nothing ..
Yet he was protecting your freedoms while he was serving in the Marines, a fact you obviously didn't know. BTW, what's with calling out forum members by their "supposed" name? If you can't observe the rules of an everyday American based forum, how in the world would you get along with radical thinking people? We're not where you want us to be in that regard and hopefully there are enough right thinking people left here to keep that from happening. No one really advocates the burning of the Muzlims precious little book of hatred for anyone that is not like they are to the point of murder. It is enough to actually know what their culture involves. It is also the freedom of Americans to reject them and their little book.
So you can't address the issue either.. instead you enter into some tirade about names, your prejudices and your naive little concept of freedom.. figures..

IF hokiepokie was a Marine then his need to endanger others is indeed puzzling.. the likely answer is that he lies about that too..

If you can't observe the rules of an everyday American based forum and attempt to stay on or at least address the topic, then how in the world will you get along with rational thinking people such as myself. ?

So here's your chance to be higher on the Evolutionary scale than our Wood Chuck..

Is it irresponsible to insist on exercising a right IF in doing so would endanger someone else. .. ??..
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Apache wrote:Humm, dang Hoke you are already making friends I see. BTW, do you still think I work as a spy for the Herald :lol:

Still drinkin' and eatin 'shrooms? That is the only way you cpould have come up with that idea...LOL!

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Crockhumter....I am still waiting on you introducing yourself with something other than a screenname.

What is your name..........or are you are afraid of giving it out.....key word.....AFRAID!


No meltdown here....forums do not occupy my life like a few of you therefore what you percieve as a meltdown and walking away is that I am doing something productive......unlike you liberals.

BTW, Crock I am not the one whom started chasing rabbits.......


I still say a 14 year old Pakistani girl has more courage than most of you. That is my point. She can risk her life but you can't give out your name.........LMAO!

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Crock Hunter wrote:
keyboarder wrote:
Crock Hunter wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote: defend being 'quite and let's not offend' these animals.
Neil... seriously.. just how stupid are you? No one has said any such thing..

hokiewoodchuck wrote:I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.
And still you hide while someone else defends your arrogance.. If you did (you do not) have the courage of your convictions.. you'd be ranting in public rather than from your basement .. ..

Yours are the actions of the worst kind of coward.. one whose actions endangers others while you do nothing ..
Yet he was protecting your freedoms while he was serving in the Marines, a fact you obviously didn't know. BTW, what's with calling out forum members by their "supposed" name? If you can't observe the rules of an everyday American based forum, how in the world would you get along with radical thinking people? We're not where you want us to be in that regard and hopefully there are enough right thinking people left here to keep that from happening. No one really advocates the burning of the Muzlims precious little book of hatred for anyone that is not like they are to the point of murder. It is enough to actually know what their culture involves. It is also the freedom of Americans to reject them and their little book.
So you can't address the issue either.. instead you enter into some tirade about names, your prejudices and your naive little concept of freedom.. figures..

IF hokiepokie was a Marine then his need to endanger others is indeed puzzling.. the likely answer is that he lies about that too..

If you can't observe the rules of an everyday American based forum and attempt to stay on or at least address the topic, then how in the world will you get along with rational thinking people such as myself. ?

So here's your chance to be higher on the Evolutionary scale than our Wood Chuck..

Is it irresponsible to insist on exercising a right IF in doing so would endanger someone else. .. ??..
Sorry, noticing your posts thus far on the forum, it is crystal clear that you think yourself higher on that "chart" of yours than anyone here. I made myself perfectly clear, no apologies from me on how the Muslims are a hate group and even with that I wouldn't burn one of their books. That's their version of what they believe, I just don't agree and further don't see how we can co-exist with them. You can call it bias if you like and me biased-I could care less what you think or say.

I reject any opportunity to join the likes of you and your irrationality. Cuddling up to you and your muzzie friends would make me an enemy of God.

Why don't you ask some of your muzzie counterparts why they thought they ought to exercise their supposed right to kill infidels even though they might be taking the lives of other muzzies to boot in the bombing of the towers? And you agree to this? You need help if you think there was any excuse for this senseless act. Muzzies consider it their right to kill infidels, so would you call them irresponsible for the towers tragedy? Where is your outrage? Are you normal?

Come down off your band box of trying to to be superior to the rest of us and tell us how you missed the boat a long way back. Maybe you just have a short man complex, who knows? Better yet, go peddle "crazy" somewhere else, this forum is all stocked up.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:Crockhumter....I am still waiting on you introducing yourself with something other than a screenname.

What is your name..........or are you are afraid of giving it out.....key word.....AFRAID!
I see .. so because YOU'RE slack enough to associate your screen name and your real name then you think everyone should be so stupid.. ..


hokiewoodchuck wrote:
I still say a 14 year old Pakistani girl has more courage than most of you. That is my point. She can risk her life but you can't give out your name.........
You bring up an excellent point... I'm sure it was quite by accident.. Unlike you, that 14 year old Pakistani girl, did not speak out and then hide behind someone else.. .. Her brand of bravery simply cannot be found among you rightwing extremists... Your style is to loudly claim that your 1st Amendment rights allows you to endanger others.. ..

hokiewoodchuck wrote:Swim fast gator.......the minnows are coming for ya...
Sure.. :roll: .. but I would have said that you are clearly more of an eel than a minnow.. .. .
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hokiewoodchuck wrote:
I would rather die with character than to die without ANY convictions. Cowards die a thousand times, I shall die but once.
"Die Once???? How many forums have you "died" on Hokiewoodchuck? You can't get along with anyone, not even a freakin woodworking forum!

I'm still waiting for you to publish your name and address on here with the statement that you will be burning a Quran, show us how brave you really are.

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keyboarder wrote:Sorry, noticing your posts thus far on the forum, it is crystal clear that you think yourself higher on that "chart" of yours than anyone here.
Presenting clear arguments backed with verifiable facts as I do often intimidates those who clearly have not given any thought as to why they say and believe what they do.. .. . you really can't help yourself..


keyboarder wrote: I reject any opportunity to join the likes of you and your irrationality. Cuddling up to you and your muzzie friends would make me an enemy of God.
Is stacking strawmen around your bigotry all you can do? .. . I don't have any "muzzie" friends or Muslim friends that I can recall... and to say that all Muslims believe as you describe would lead one to also say that all Christians act as do the Westboro "Pray that God Kills Soldiers" cult. . I would ask you a direct question "Are ALL Christians like Westboro Christians" but so far you haven't found the courage to response to genuine questions.. . .

I am however a dear friend of reality and you saying that you reject any opportunity to join the likes of me when the choice I gave you was one so clearly on the side of decency and responsibility says that you reject those positive characteristics and choose to side with the cowards that adamantly claim their 1st Amendment rights grant them the right to endanger other American citizens... .

If that is the case.. then you sicken me perhaps more than the loud-mouthed pansies that hide behind true bravery..

keyboarder wrote:Why don't you ask some of your muzzie counterparts why they thought they ought to exercise their supposed right to kill infidels even though they might be taking the lives of other muzzies to boot in the bombing of the towers? And you agree to this? You need help if you think there was any excuse for this senseless act. Muzzies consider it their right to kill infidels, so would you call them irresponsible for the towers tragedy? Where is your outrage? Are you normal?

Come down off your band box of trying to to be superior to the rest of us and tell us how you missed the boat a long way back. Maybe you just have a short man complex, who knows? Better yet, go peddle "crazy" somewhere else, this forum is all stocked up.
Every word of that is pathetic strawman bullship .. .. If that's the best you can do just stay on Facebook and leave discussion to people that value facts.. .you clearly do not...
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