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Well, putting aside your ideology I would urge you to vote for the nominee, whoever it is rather than wasting a vote or in effect voting for trump by default.

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I think his perspective is as valid as anyone's in these crazy times. The uncertainty comforts me in voting for my ideology rather than trying to predict voter preferences 9 months from now. I MAY yet vote for Liz! to honor her effort. If not, Bernie!
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Well, putting aside your ideology I would urge you to vote for the nominee, whoever it is rather than wasting a vote or in effect voting for trump by default.
I meant in the primary. Unless something happens and NC is no longer purple, my Dem vote in Nov is certain.
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Well, putting aside your ideology I would urge you to vote for the nominee, whoever it is rather than wasting a vote or in effect voting for trump by default.
I meant in the primary. Unless something happens and NC is no longer purple, my Dem vote in NOV is certain.
Doh! I misinterpreted.

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Democrat leads poll in campaign for the 50th

Campa-Najjar in top slot with Issa ahead of DeMaio for 2nd
By Charles T. Clark

With the primary a week away, a poll released Tuesday shows Democrat Ammar Campa-Najjar and Republican Darrell Issa as the favorites to advance to November in the race for the 50th Congressional District.
A San Diego Union-Tribune/10 News poll of 552 likely voters conducted by SurveyUSA shows Campa-Najjar, a business owner and lecturer at San Diego State University, and Issa, a former congressman, leading a crowded field with 35 percent and 21 percent, respectively.
They’re followed by Carl DeMaio, a conservative radio host and former San Diego councilman, who polled at 15 percent and was the only other candidate to register double-digit support.
The poll’s margin of error is 5.2 percentage points.
Twelve percent were undecided about next week’s primary, where the top two vote-getters will advance to the general election regardless of party affiliation.
The 50th District, which includes parts of East County, inland communities in North County and a southern portion of Riverside County, has more registered Republicans than Democrats. Of the likely voters surveyed, 45 percent identified as Republicans and 35 percent identified as Democrats.
The poll, conducted Thursday through Sunday by telephone interviews and electronic surveys, suggests that the repeated negative campaign attacks traded between DeMaio and Issa over the past several months are resonating with voters.
The two have included pointed barbs about each other in TV ads, mailers, and forums, all largely focusing on who is a “true conservative” and the strongest, most ardent supporter of President Donald Trump.
Voters who have a negative opinion of DeMaio have nearly doubled, rising from 22 percent in January to 42 percent in last weekend’s poll. Similarly, voters who have a negative opinion of Issa also climbed in the past month, growing from 29 percent in January to 44 percent this month.
Negative perception of Campa-Najjar has remained relatively flat at 29 percent in the latest poll, up only 1 percentage point from the previous month.
The poll also sought to shed light on the highest priority issues for residents in the district and found that those issues have remained constant.
Voters indicated that “holding the president accountable” was the top priority, slightly ahead of “border security.” Those issues polled at 20 percent and 17 percent, respectively.
Other top issues for likely voters included the “character of the candidate” (16 percent), “rallying around the president” (13 percent) and climate change (12 percent).
The survey also found that 48 percent believe undocumented immigrants should be deported to their native countries compared to 33 percent who said they should be allowed to stay.
The closeness of the top candidates in the poll reflects how up-for-grabs the 50th Congressional District is, now that it lacks an incumbent.
Former Rep. Duncan D. Hunter, an Alpine Republican who served in Congress since 2009, resigned last month after he pleaded guilty to a felony involving illegal campaign spending. The seat is vacant and will remain so until after the general election.
Voters have already begun returning their mail ballots and will have the option to cast ballots in person at their designated polling location on Tuesday.
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Democrat leads poll in campaign for the 50th

Campa-Najjar in top slot with Issa ahead of DeMaio for 2nd
He came close in 2018, but Hunter was already under indictment. It's great that it looks like he'll survive the primary. If Palestinian-Mexican American Campa-Najjar, grandson of a Fatah founder - how's that for a con nightmare? - wins CA50, I think it'll also mean a Dem or Democratic Socialist POTUS and a Dem Senate.
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This might be the best reason to vote for @ewarren I’ve seen yet. She’ll get stuff done that people like Ann Coulter find idiotic.
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Ann Coulter just endorsed Warren, I think
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Elizabeth Warren’s competence frightens both Ann Coulter and Peter Thiel. That’s reassuring as hell. When both white nationalists and diabolical billionaires fear your ability to usher in progress, you’re doing something right.
I was not sure about Elizabeth Warren.

Ann Coulter said that she is "afraid" of her.

Thanks, Ann.

Warren it is.
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I don’t think Ann *intended* this as an endorsement but it wouldn’t surprise me if Warren HQ decided to blow the tweet up and put it on a poster.
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It must be so frustrating for Coulter. All that work, all that posing. Then trump comes along, and compared to the crazies he has released, she is almost mild-mannered. What’s a girl to do?
Ann Coulter has been in a snit ever since Kansas dropped that house on her sister.
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:01 pm
Democrat leads poll in campaign for the 50th

Campa-Najjar in top slot with Issa ahead of DeMaio for 2nd
He came close in 2018, but Hunter was already under indictment. It's great that it looks like he'll survive the primary. If Palestinian-Mexican American Campa-Najjar, grandson of a Fatah founder - how's that for a con nightmare? - wins CA50, I think it'll also mean a Dem or Democratic Socialist POTUS and a Dem Senate.
The primary is a little different here, because everybody of all parties runs together and the top two, regardless of party, run against each other in the general. Registrations in the district are 45-R/35-D/20-I. Issa's (and DeMaio's) negatives have really shot up since January - not surprising since they've done nothing but trash each other. Both up to 45ish or so negative. So if all the Dems show up for Campa-Najjar, and most of the unaffiliated don't like Issa (or Trump), then Campa-Najjar has a reasonable chance.

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The primary is a little different here, because everybody of all parties runs together and the top two, regardless of party, run against each other in the general. Registrations in the district are 45-R/35-D/20-I. Issa's (and DeMaio's) negatives have really shot up since January - not surprising since they've done nothing but trash each other. Both up to 45ish or so negative. So if all the Dems show up for Campa-Najjar, and most of the unaffiliated don't like Issa (or Trump), then Campa-Najjar has a reasonable chance.
Yeah, I know how primaries work there. Are you saying that it's possible that Campa-Najjar could win the seat outright by getting 50% +1 in the primary? That did not even occur to me. Wow, wouldn't that be something!!
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The primary is a little different here, because everybody of all parties runs together and the top two, regardless of party, run against each other in the general. Registrations in the district are 45-R/35-D/20-I. Issa's (and DeMaio's) negatives have really shot up since January - not surprising since they've done nothing but trash each other. Both up to 45ish or so negative. So if all the Dems show up for Campa-Najjar, and most of the unaffiliated don't like Issa (or Trump), then Campa-Najjar has a reasonable chance.
Yeah, I know how primaries work there. Are you saying that it's possible that Campa-Najjar could win the seat outright by getting 50% +1 in the primary? That did not even occur to me. Wow, wouldn't that be something!!
No, even if he gets over 50%, there's still a general. I just mean that there are enough non-Republicans available to give him a reasonable chance. The unaffiliated and the Dems outnumber the Republicans, so if Issa and DeMaio have alienated everybody but the hard-core Repugs, then that situation is favourable for Campa-Najjar.

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No, even if he gets over 50%, there's still a general.
Ah, my bad. Seems wasteful to me.
I just mean that there are enough non-Republicans available to give him a reasonable chance. The unaffiliated and the Dems outnumber the Republicans, so if Issa and DeMaio have alienated everybody but the hard-core Repugs, then that situation is favourable for Campa-Najjar.
I'll cross my fingers for you.
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No, even if he gets over 50%, there's still a general.
Ah, my bad. Seems wasteful to me.
:lol: In more ways than one!

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:lol: In more ways than one!
I didn't think that I was making a funny, and what are those ways? I just meant the expense of a general when the majority has already spoken.
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Any election with clowns like Issa and DeMaio in it is a waste, IMNVHO.

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Any election with clowns like Issa and DeMaio in it is a waste, IMNVHO.
Ah. :clap:
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Great. A co-Presidency of curmudgeon and a shrew.

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Great. A co-Presidency of curmudgeon and a shrew.
Just a split endorsement. As I've said, no way does any nominee pick one of the ancient opponents for VP.

Isn't "shrew" an extremely sexist pejorative? I suppose "curmudgeon" is also sexist, but in a much more adorable way.
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Great. A co-Presidency of curmudgeon and a shrew.
Just a split endorsement. As I've said, no way does any nominee pick one of the ancient opponents for VP.

Isn't "shrew" an extremely sexist pejorative? I suppose "curmudgeon" is also sexist, but in a much more adorable way.
Some would consider it so, but it is also legitimately descriptive to refer "to a woman who is argumentative, nagging, and ill tempered." I tried, but couldn't come up with a better word to describe the creature who showed up in Elizabeth's skin at the Nevada debates and who appeared largely to continue using her skin in SC. I guess if she were male, "shrew" wouldn't apply and he could just be called "asshole."

Bernie ran an ad here where I guess his handlers tranked him - or maybe replaced him with cgi - and he was speaking in a normal tone and manner, making perfect sense and reason. No scolding, no waving finger. I'd vote for that guy if he were real.

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