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... I suppose there are some who would find fault with "Addicted to Love" because the background chicks are faking their playing.
They are???!!! :o I loved them . . . because of their talent ;) .


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... I suppose there are some who would find fault with "Addicted to Love" because the background chicks are faking their playing.
They are???!!! .
Well, I never met any of those people personally.
It's not the sort of person I would tend to hang around with.

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:lol: I bet old Charlie Manson would come out for trump. Charlie got less than a year of trump (died Nov 17 which I looked up) but I figure he'd like him.

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Well, I never met any of those people personally.
It's not the sort of person I would tend to hang around with.
There's nothing fake about these talented young women, is there?


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I'm relieved that the DNC has only been accused of one "dirty trick" this election - changing the debate rules to get Bloomberg on the debate stage. If anything, this would have theoretically hurt Joe, not Bernie! or Liz!

For better or worse, that’s it. May FSM help us.

Okay, pre-boomer:

I'm happy that you weren't completely humiliated - winning ND, Washington neck and neck, keeping ID tight, and seeing decent support in MI and MO;

No one will fault you for dropping out;

I understand if you stay in. You're passionate about the things you believe in, and Joe might have that CVA before you do. Even then, they might draft Michelle, though.

However, you should now stick to all positive campaigning:
We all want IMPOSPOTUS to lose;
You want to be able to influence the new admin* and Senate majority over your remaining 4 years in office;
You want to use this platform you still have to paint as good a picture of yourself, your issues and democratic socialism as possible, as a boost to the other progressives running and for the next one to run for POTUS.


Joe should also now stick to positive campaigning, regardless of what Bernie! does. If you’re gonna be a winner, act like one. Anything else would make him look petty and mean.
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... Okay, pre-boomer:

I'm happy that you weren't completely humiliated - winning ND, Washington neck and neck lost :( , keeping ID tight, and seeing decent support in MI and MO;

... I understand if you stay in. You're passionate about the things you believe in, and Joe might have that CVA before you do. Even then, they might draft Michelle, though.

However, you should now stick to all positive campaigning:
We all want IMPOSPOTUS to lose;
You want to be able to influence the new admin* and Senate majority over your remaining 4 years in office;
You want to use this platform you still have to paint as good a picture of yourself, your issues and democratic socialism as possible, as a boost to the other progressives running and for the next one to run for POTUS....
Have I mentioned that I'm one of Bernie!'s most trusted campaign advisors, and that BRD is one of the top sites that his staff visits for daily bullet point briefings?

After rough night at the polls, Sanders presses on, but focuses on defeating Trump

Standing up for his team, zero attacks on Joe. :wave:
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Have I mentioned that I'm one of Bernie!'s most trusted campaign advisors, and that BRD is one of the top sites that his staff visits for daily bullet point briefings?
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... Okay, pre-boomer:

... I understand if you stay in. You're passionate about the things you believe in, and Joe might have that CVA before you do. Even then, they might draft Michelle, though.

However, you should now stick to all positive campaigning: ...

Joe should also now stick to positive campaigning, regardless of what Bernie! does. If you’re gonna be a winner, act like one. Anything else would make him look petty and mean.
Huh, either I was wrong, Bernie and Joe are, or it doesn't matter. I did not watch, just reading about it now:
4 takeaways from the Biden-Sanders Democratic debate

... Sanders recommended as a first step that President Trump stop talking about the disease. “The first thing we’ve got to do, whether or not I’m president, is to shut this president up right now,” he said.
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Sanders attacked Biden over comments he has made over the years about the need to reduce the growth of Social Security spending.

“You were in the Senate for a few years,” said Sanders. “Time and time again, talking about the necessity with pride about cutting Social Security, cutting Medicare and veterans’ programs.”

Biden insisted that had never been his position, although the Sanders campaign has run ads that show him calling for a freeze on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid on the floor of the Senate. “All that I would say to the American people, go to YouTube,” Sanders said. “It’s all over the place. Joe said it many, many times.”

Biden also attempted to downplay his role in passing a bankruptcy bill of which he was a major supporter.

Sanders also pressed Biden on his support for the Iraq War, the Hyde Amendment (which forbids the federal government from paying for abortions in most circumstances) and the Defense of Marriage Act (which disallowed gay marriage).

Biden said, “We can argue about the past or the future,” before attacking Sanders over his past votes on gun control and immigration. At another point, the two clashed over Sanders’s history of finding positive things to say (with heavy caveats) about totalitarian Communist governments, such as Cuba’s.

While the candidates sparred on a wide range of issues, they were both clear that they would not just support, but campaign for, their opponent if they won the nomination....
Not predicting anything, but it may have been Bernie's actual or de facto finale. 4 primaries Tuesday, 3 of them with 100+ delegates, one of those with 200+.
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I didn't watch it, "...but Biden said, “We can argue about the past or the future..." is a great line that Biden's people should have thought of long before. A big problem historically for candidates who have been in Congress - or other office - for a long time is that during some of that time they pretty much have to accumulated some bad votes, wrong decisions, issues they've changed on, yada, so they can always be beat over the head about "voting for it before you were against it..." or some other gotcha from the past. So the old geezers wasted their time yapping about the other's votes or comments without context? You're right - Biden needs to just start behaving like a (gracious) winner.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:33 am
Vrede too wrote:
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:26 am
At least we've heard the last from Roy Moore.

https://news.yahoo.com/sessions-likely- ... 00589.html
Thanks! Humiliated. :---P

Plus, evil elf Sessions could lose in the runoff.
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Not looking good for Jones (D) in Nov, but not impossible.
https://www.wbrc.com/2020/02/12/new-ala ... us-senate/

AL Daily News/Mason-Dixon
2/4 - 2/6
Jones 42.0, Tuberville 50.0
Jones 41.0, Sessions 54.0
Lots of time between now and November for tRump to alienate the masses. Have faith.
If not, it's not entirely the fault of the people of Alabama:

Alive and Well: Voter Suppression and Election Mismanagement in Alabama
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Hat trick for POTUS Joe. Congrats, I don't hate him and he's sure paid his dues.

Okay Bernie!, I said it a week ago -
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IF you stay in:

Articulate why;
Don't be mean, there's no point to it now and we don't need a sore loser progressive;
Keep it positive, your platform is valid whether folks agree with it or not;
It's elder statesman time, your potential legacy;
DO NOT say that you're hoping that Joe succumbs to CV-19;

You may have some coattails yet:
Marie Newman defeated Rep. Dan Lipinski in major upset in Illinois' 3rd Congressional District.

Newman's big upset over Rep. Dan Lipinski is a major victory and a bright spot for progressive Democrats in an otherwise tough election cycle for progressive candidates.

Two Democrats, Marie Newman and Rush Darwish ran in the Democratic primary against Lipinski, one of the most conservative House Democrats, in this safe Democratic district located in the Chicago suburbs.

Newman came within a little over two percentage points of defeating Lipinski, one of just two anti-abortion Democrats in the House in the 2018 midterm elections and beat him on her second attempt by over four points.

The other anti-abortion Democrat, Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas, survived a similar primary challenge from the left this year in the state's March 3 primary.

Some of Lipinski's controversial stances, which include opposing gay marriage until 2015 and voting against Obamacare, have long made him the target of ire from national progressives, but he'd been re-elected in every cycle since 2006.

The highly competitive race received national attention, with prominent progressives including Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and pro-abortion rights groups, including EMILY's List and Planned Parenthood Action, stepping up to support Newman.

Despite Lipinski's conservative record, the veteran congressman has benefited from built-in support from the Democratic party. And the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and Democratic leadership in the House threw their support behind Lipinski ...

The suburban Chicago district is solidly blue — Hillary Clinton won it by 15 points against then-candidate Donald Trump in the 2016 general election. The 2016 primary was a tight race between Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders, who lost the district by about two points....
:happy-cheerleaderkid: Congrats US Rep Newman!

Lipinski be like:


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Democrat leads poll in campaign for the (CA) 50th

Campa-Najjar in top slot with Issa ahead of DeMaio for 2nd...
He came close in 2018, but Hunter was already under indictment. It's great that it looks like he'll survive the primary. If Palestinian-Mexican American Campa-Najjar, grandson of a Fatah founder - how's that for a con nightmare? - wins CA50, I think it'll also mean a Dem or Democratic Socialist POTUS and a Dem Senate.
Duncan Hunter: Former Republican representative sentenced to (11 months) prison for misusing campaign funds
His wife pleaded guilty to a corruption charge last year and is due to be sentenced on 7 April


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Just to be clear, CA50 is still Republican leaning, and Issa is favored - but not by an insurmountable amount, particularly depending on what happens between now and November.

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PAC is spending $1 million in NC’s Democratic Senate primary. Does it have GOP ties?

A new super PAC is spending $1.6 million on TV ads on behalf of Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Erica Smith, who lags far behind her main competitor in fundraising.

... Democrats believe the ad is a Republican attempt to undermine Cunningham.

“The fact that Washington Republicans are trying to meddle in our Democratic Primary should outrage every Democrat in North Carolina,” said state Rep. Cecil Brockman, a Cunningham supporter. “This is the latest, desperate sign that Republicans are scared to run against Cal Cunningham.“ ...
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Sleazy Repugs being sleazy Repugs, it's what they do.
Feb 28 article:
Democratic Senate candidate Cal Cunningham looks set to run away with the nomination as the poll shows him up 29 points on Erica Smith.
Haha, the Repugs wasted $1.6 million. Cunningham ads claimed he's a progressive, but not in ways that'll hurt him.
...Sen. Thom Tillis is also up nearly 50 points on his closest primary opponent, Paul Wright. Although Tillis should win the Republican nomination for Senate, his approval numbers are not particularly good. Just over 34 percent of North Carolina voters approve of the job he’s doing while nearly 39 percent disapprove. Almost 27 percent said they “don’t know” how Tillis is handling his job as a senator.
Tillis losing would be so cool! Could even tip the Senate balance. Guess I'll be donating to Cunningham, too.
Not making any predictions yet, but with Sen Burr's insider trading maybe leading to resignation and incumbent candidate Sen Tillis being so unpopular, it's possible that NC will flip 2 Sen seats blue this year. This could make the difference in the Sen flipping blue.

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Vrede too wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:48 pm
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PAC is spending $1 million in NC’s Democratic Senate primary. Does it have GOP ties?

A new super PAC is spending $1.6 million on TV ads on behalf of Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Erica Smith, who lags far behind her main competitor in fundraising.

... Democrats believe the ad is a Republican attempt to undermine Cunningham.

“The fact that Washington Republicans are trying to meddle in our Democratic Primary should outrage every Democrat in North Carolina,” said state Rep. Cecil Brockman, a Cunningham supporter. “This is the latest, desperate sign that Republicans are scared to run against Cal Cunningham.“ ...
:obscene-birdiered:

Sleazy Repugs being sleazy Repugs, it's what they do.
Feb 28 article:
Democratic Senate candidate Cal Cunningham looks set to run away with the nomination as the poll shows him up 29 points on Erica Smith.
Haha, the Repugs wasted $1.6 million. Cunningham ads claimed he's a progressive, but not in ways that'll hurt him.
...Sen. Thom Tillis is also up nearly 50 points on his closest primary opponent, Paul Wright. Although Tillis should win the Republican nomination for Senate, his approval numbers are not particularly good. Just over 34 percent of North Carolina voters approve of the job he’s doing while nearly 39 percent disapprove. Almost 27 percent said they “don’t know” how Tillis is handling his job as a senator.
Tillis losing would be so cool! Could even tip the Senate balance. Guess I'll be donating to Cunningham, too.
Not making any predictions yet, but with Sen Burr's insider trading maybe leading to resignation and incumbent candidate Sen Tillis being so unpopular, it's possible that NC will flip 2 Sen seats blue this year. This could make the difference in the Sen flipping blue.

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And the very reason that neither Justice Department or mitch will do anything
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And the very reason that neither Justice Department or mitch will do anything Politics over country every time
Do you think that Gaetz is contradicting 45SHOLE's wishes?

I wonder how independent the SEC is these days, probably not very, or if any US Attys - DC, SDNY, etc. have jurisdiction?
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And the very reason that neither Justice Department or mitch will do anything Politics over country every time
Do you think that Gaetz is contradicting 45SHOLE's wishes?

I wonder how independent the SEC is these days, probably not very, or if any US Attys - DC, SDNY, etc. have jurisdiction?
We will likely never know. So many of trump's relationships are staged for effect, ratings or as a distraction that there's no way to tell anymore than you can predict any other reality show.
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O Really wrote:
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Not sure how Cuomo could win the nomination once Biden has secured enough votes to get it on the first ballot.
Yeah, first ballot the delegates have to vote as directed, so if Biden gets enough in primaries, he's in. But if he didn't, it's at least theoretically possible that the delegates could toss out Biden and Bernie!. Not likely, though.
My guesses:

If Biden is alive and not under indictment for something, he's the nominee no matter how many ballots it takes.

If Biden succumbs to CV-19, old age or whatever, someone gets drafted besides Bernie! - Cuomo, Dem race dropout, not Hillary, whoever - it's a big fuckin' mess, and 45SHOLE gets reelected.
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