Ok, it's official. The United States has lost its damn mind

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:40 pm
Would you all say this is the most volatile you've seen the United States in your life times?
GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:02 pm
Hard knowing. I'm a little too young to have any clear memories of the 1960's and there was not nearly this kind of coverage.

The 60s did bring about change though.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:53 pm
Probably more violent, but much more isolated events - as I remember, but I was more interested in being a teenager.
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:11 pm
Idk.

60s and now:
Brutal cops
Riots, esp. after MLK's assassination
Even a 1968 pandemic

60s:
Vietnam
Antiwar protests
KKK and Night Riders, lynchings
MLK, RFK and Malcolm X assassinations
LBJ and Nixon
Years

Now:
More widespread anti-racism protests
More widespread rioting?
Worse pandemic
45SHOLE
Less than a month

I'd say the 60s were more meaningful, but our current final chapter has not been written yet.
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:45 pm
I'm 66 years old, and I say not yes, but hell yes. I fear for the country I have known and the one my granddaughter will grow up in. I cry about it.
Some discussion of the question, focused on its possible Nov effects:

No, 2020 is not 1968 all over again, but the similarities are frightening
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Ah, yes, the "Southern strategy" is what Nixon focused on; and the GOP has been milking it ever since. I think Pat Buchanan is credited with its origin but not sure. But it worked, and still is.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:32 am
johnnybgood wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:35 am
The Virus Trumps fault, it would be gone by now under Obama or Hillary- LMFAO,.. idiots
Cops kill black guys- Happened less under Obama? No
Job loss due to Trump- LMAO,.. idiots

Jesus Christ the Left is trying hard. All you really have his "His mouth"
Holding the bible thing was pretty dumb.

Even though will fall for the Democrat game sadly. Trump will still win.
Good to see you Johnny. tRump is headed to your state tomorrow. I heard that he needs a white state where he can discuss racial diversity.
The number of white doesn't matter. Support is not really high in most populated areas here.
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johnnybgood wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:03 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:32 am
johnnybgood wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:35 am
The Virus Trumps fault, it would be gone by now under Obama or Hillary- LMFAO,.. idiots
Cops kill black guys- Happened less under Obama? No
Job loss due to Trump- LMAO,.. idiots

Jesus Christ the Left is trying hard. All you really have his "His mouth"
Holding the bible thing was pretty dumb.

Even though will fall for the Democrat game sadly. Trump will still win.
Good to see you Johnny. tRump is headed to your state tomorrow. I heard that he needs a white state where he can discuss racial diversity.
The number of white doesn't matter. Support is not really high in most populated areas here.
Don't sell yourself short, whitey. The amount of white makes a huge difference in the amount of support for trump, just as the amount of stupid makes a huge difference. Some people are just whiter and stupider than others.

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O Really wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:23 pm
So at least three cities with brick piles have been de-bunked as preparations for rioting. Short version, there are videos with the bricks there well before Floyd was killed. Dunno how many places supposedly had pre-placed bricks, but my guess is there are reasons for the others, too.

https://www.krem.com/article/news/verif ... 46a130b334
Plus, cops lie.

NYPD Says Looters Are Stashing Bricks. Brooklyn Locals Say Otherwise

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"The Nation reported that the FBI’s Washington, DC, field office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in violence connected to protests that took place over the weekend.

The FBI report listed a series of violent acts including instances of bricks being thrown at police officers and a backpack that contained explosives. But based on “CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison,” the bureau had no evidence that those acts were directly linked to antifa, The Nation said.

However, the FBI’s report did warn that people associated with a far-right social-media group had “called for far-right provocateurs to attack federal agents” and “use automatic weapons against protesters.'
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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:11 am
Who knew our military was more sane than our chief executive?

Pentagon disarms National Guard activated in D.C., sends active-duty forces home
The Pentagon has told National Guardsmen deployed to the nation’s capital not to use firearms or ammunition, and has issued orders to send home active-duty troops that the Trump administration amassed outside the city in recent days, a sign of de-escalation in the federal response to protests in the city.

Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper made the decision to disarm the guard without consulting the White House, after President Trump ordered a militarized show of force on the streets of Washington to quell demonstrations that were punctured by an episode of looting Sunday, two senior administration officials said. Trump had encouraged the National Guard to be armed.

Initially, a small group of guardsmen deployed in the city had been carrying guns while standing outside monuments, but the bulk of the forces, such as those working with federal park police at Lafayette Square in front of the White House, didn’t carry firearms out of caution. Now, all of the roughly 5,000 guardsmen deployed to Washington from the District of Columbia and 11 states have been told not to use weapons or ammunition.
Esper, unlike trump, remembers what happened after Kent State.
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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:11 am
Who knew our military was more sane than our chief executive?
It's a low bar.

Damn, racist Whites just keep losing and losing:
Why Most Americans Support the Protests

Beyond the scenes of protest and resistance playing out in cities across the country, a movement of a different sort has taken hold.

The American public’s views on the pervasiveness of racism have taken a hard leftward turn over the past few years. Never before in the history of modern polling have Americans expressed such widespread agreement that racial discrimination plays a role in policing — and in society at large.

Driven by the Black Lives Matter movement, this shift has primed the country for a new groundswell — one that has quickly earned the sympathy of most Americans, polling shows. As a result, in less than two weeks, it has already forced local governments and national politicians to make tangible policy commitments.

In a Monmouth University poll released this week, 76% of Americans — including 71% of white people — called racism and discrimination “a big problem” in the United States. That’s a 26-percentage-point spike since 2015. In the poll, 57% of Americans said demonstrators’ anger was fully justified, and another 21% called it somewhat justified.

In the Monmouth poll and in another released this week by CBS News, exactly 57% of Americans said police officers were generally more likely to treat black people unfairly than to mistreat white people. In both surveys, about half of white people said so. This was a drastic change, particularly for white Americans, who have not historically said they believed that black people continued to face pervasive discrimination....

In 2009, the year President Barack Obama took office, just 36% of white Americans said the country needed to do more to ensure that black people gained equal rights, according to a Pew Research Center poll. By 2017, four years after the start of the Black Lives Matter movement, that number had leapt to 54% of white people and roughly 3 in 5 Americans overall.

Sixty-one percent of the country in that poll said it supported Black Lives Matter....

(journalism professor at the University of Wisconsin Douglas) McLeod said that as videos showing police brutality against black people have appeared relentlessly on social media, they have helped persuade skeptical Americans that an endemic problem exists.

“When these things accumulate over time, and we start to see more and more of these images, the evidence starts to become more incontrovertible,” he said.

A Youth Movement — With Broad Appeal

The current round of protests is youth-led, and so too, to some degree, is the shift in nationwide sentiment. Millennials and members of Generation Z are far more likely to say they believe police are prone to racist behavior....

A Pew survey in 2018 also found a stark generational divide over whether NFL players were right to kneel in protest of racial inequality. Among millennials and teenagers in Generation Z, more than 3 in 5 expressed approval of the protests; among baby boomers and other older Americans, an equally large share said they disapproved.

Similar trends play out specifically among young black people and other people of color, who express a greater desire for sweeping change and a more unanimous suspicion of police. In a recent Washington Post/Ipsos poll of African Americans, among respondents 35 and younger, 9 out of 10 said they did not trust police to treat people of all races equally — higher than in any other age group....

The Trump Effect

... A similar trend has occurred over the past few years with regard to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency responsible for enforcing the country’s immigration laws. It has become the least popular federal agency, according to data from the Pew Research Center.

In a March poll, Americans were just as likely to disapprove of the agency as they were to approve. Of the other nine agencies Pew asked about, none had less than 60% approval....

As he (Trump) embraces harsh tactics against protesters and seeks to label many of those fighting for racial justice as “domestic terrorists,” he has helped force a commitment one way or the other. And for the moment, a large and growing majority appears to be choosing the other side.

The Public Religion Research Institute was in the midst of a nationwide poll last week when the first protests broke out over George Floyd’s killing. The group’s researchers found that as demonstrations ramped up, Trump’s favorability rating fell significantly among certain key voting groups.

In the first three days of the poll, May 26-28, 40% of political independents expressed a positive view of the president; in interviews conducted over the three days that followed — starting May 29, when Trump tweeted, “when the looting starts, the shooting starts” — his approval among independents dropped to 30%. Among white Christians, the dip was 11 points. Among seniors, his rating fell especially hard: from 58% to 41%.
Maybe, just maybe, the United States has not "lost its damn mind".
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Urban Dictionary:
I can't breathe

True of COVID-19 sufferers and of George Floyd. The key phrase at this moment in American history.

"I can't breathe, said Floyd as he was being suffocated. "I can't breathe" thought more than 100,000 victims as they were dying of Covid. "I can't breathe" chanted countless Americans in the streets, protesting enduring police brutality.
Well said.
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It's working.
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NBC News refuses to cover its own crew being attacked by mob of angry protesters
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/04 ... ers-929941
The video shows enraged protesters surrounding the NBC News crew and then chasing them when they ran away. One cameraman fell to the ground.

At some point, several protesters realized the crew was from MSNBC and urged the mob to stop attacking them.

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1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 am
NBC News refuses to cover its own crew being attacked by mob of angry protesters
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/04 ... ers-929941
The video shows enraged protesters surrounding the NBC News crew and then chasing them when they ran away. One cameraman fell to the ground.

At some point, several protesters realized the crew was from MSNBC and urged the mob to stop attacking them.

Except that it probably didn't happen.

You have lied about so many of the links that you post - what's the point in watching them.

And then there's the fact that you refuse to answer questions or add anything to any debate. You, like all cops, are a worthless drag on society.
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1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 am
NBC News refuses to cover its own crew being attacked by mob of angry protesters
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/04 ... ers-929941
The video shows enraged protesters surrounding the NBC News crew and then chasing them when they ran away. One cameraman fell to the ground.

At some point, several protesters realized the crew was from MSNBC and urged the mob to stop attacking them.
But NBC and MSNBC both refused to cover the incident, and pretended it never happened even though the harrowing scene was shared on a viral video posted by the Daily Caller‘s Shelby Talcott.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:44 am
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 am
NBC News refuses to cover its own crew being attacked by mob of angry protesters
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/04 ... ers-929941
The video shows enraged protesters surrounding the NBC News crew and then chasing them when they ran away. One cameraman fell to the ground.

At some point, several protesters realized the crew was from MSNBC and urged the mob to stop attacking them.

Except that it probably didn't happen.

You have lied about so many of the links that you post - what's the point in watching them.

And then there's the fact that you refuse to answer questions or add anything to any debate. You, like all cops, are a worthless drag on society.
I looked, looks like the crowd was fleeing the cops, cameraman got knocked down, people assisted and helped them up.

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Should have know, 1BIGDICKHEAD posts some a link to some unknown RWNJ's website. Wonder how he "stumbled " onto that.
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1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:54 am
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 am
NBC News refuses to cover its own crew being attacked by mob of angry protesters
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/04 ... ers-929941
The video shows enraged protesters surrounding the NBC News crew and then chasing them when they ran away. One cameraman fell to the ground.

At some point, several protesters realized the crew was from MSNBC and urged the mob to stop attacking them.
But NBC and MSNBC both refused to cover the incident, and pretended it never happened even though the harrowing scene was shared on a viral video posted by the Daily Caller‘s Shelby Talcott.
There were no law enforcement officers in the video. Peaceful protesters don't run from law enforcement.

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1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:24 am
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:54 am
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 am
NBC News refuses to cover its own crew being attacked by mob of angry protesters
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/04 ... ers-929941
The video shows enraged protesters surrounding the NBC News crew and then chasing them when they ran away. One cameraman fell to the ground.

At some point, several protesters realized the crew was from MSNBC and urged the mob to stop attacking them.
But NBC and MSNBC both refused to cover the incident, and pretended it never happened even though the harrowing scene was shared on a viral video posted by the Daily Caller‘s Shelby Talcott.
There were no law enforcement officers in the video. Peaceful protesters don't run from law enforcement.
Gee, could have they been BEHIND them? You know, in the opposite direction they were fleeing from like the peaceful protesters a week ago Monday in Lafayette Park.

Back on ignore you go, where you belong.
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People in #Chicago are now looting right off of a moving train. Understanding.


billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:45 am
Except that it probably didn't happen.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:37 am
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:24 am
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:54 am
1 CAT FAN wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 am
NBC News refuses to cover its own crew being attacked by mob of angry protesters
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/04 ... ers-929941
The video shows enraged protesters surrounding the NBC News crew and then chasing them when they ran away. One cameraman fell to the ground.

At some point, several protesters realized the crew was from MSNBC and urged the mob to stop attacking them.
But NBC and MSNBC both refused to cover the incident, and pretended it never happened even though the harrowing scene was shared on a viral video posted by the Daily Caller‘s Shelby Talcott.
There were no law enforcement officers in the video. Peaceful protesters don't run from law enforcement.
Gee, could have they been BEHIND them? You know, in the opposite direction they were fleeing from like the peaceful protesters a week ago Monday in Lafayette Park.

Back on ignore you go, where you belong.

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