Baseball

[Ulysses]

IMHO, SF is an actual city.

LA is more like a conglomeration of oversize suburbs.

Plus, the entire SF Bay Area population is 8 million.

Sure because you've got that nice city in an enclosed space, but SF itself has only about 900,000 population. Los Angeles the city has about 4 million and the county 10 million. But you've also got a lot of national fans of the Dodgers, for some reason.

SF city population is immaterial. It's the entire SF Bay Area that counts, IMHO. From San Jose to Novato, and Benicia to Milpitas. It's all one big city. In reality. Maybe not politically, but I defy you to find much if any open space between these points (Marin County excepted). It's all one big, as they say, "conurbation".

[Vrede too]

Whatever you call them, LA is still a much bigger market than SF.

BoSox yippee!

[Ulysses]

Population of LA County: almost 10 million.

Population of SF Bay Area: 7.75 million.

[Vrede too]

Population of LA County: almost 10 million.

Population of SF Bay Area: 7.75 million.

LA's market is more than LA County, and many in the SF Bay Area are fans of the As.

[GoCubsGo]

Jesus, more than double.

Greater Los Angeles, with a 2019 population of 18,710,563,[6] is the second-largest urban region area in the United States.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area

[Ulysses]

So teams from smaller cities don't count?

Like the Braves, the White Sox, the Red Sox, even the Cubs?

What kind of totalitarian outlook does that suggest?

[Vrede too]

Might be harbinger of Dodger Dynasty.

As my ex father in law would proclaim often and loudly...

It's all fixed!

LA is a bigger market than SF. ...

So teams from smaller cities don't count?

Like the Braves, the White Sox, the Red Sox, even the Cubs?

What kind of totalitarian outlook does that suggest?

Geez, you need even the simplest things explained to you.
GoCubsGo JOKED that, "It's all fixed!"
I played along with the JOKE by accurately citing the relative market size that you're so clueless about.
Even if we weren't JOKING, we said NOTHING to endorse big markets over smaller ones, crybaby. In reality, I prefer Oakland and SF to LA, by far. I was even rooting for SF over LA. Pay attention.

[GoCubsGo]

So teams from smaller cities don't count?

Like the Braves, the White Sox, the Red Sox, even the Cubs?

What kind of totalitarian outlook does that suggest?

Huh?

[GoCubsGo]

Freaking walk off.

[Vrede too]

Freaking walk off.

Next 4 games.

[Vrede too]

Also, it is MLB, not us, that has decided, in part, that "smaller cities don't count". Hence, no salary caps. Didn't you know?

[GoCubsGo]

Also, it is MLB, not us, that has decided that "smaller cities don't count". Hence, no salary caps. Didn't you know?

That's why it's all fixed!

[O Really]

"Market", for sports teams, is the boundary of population that could reasonably be expected to support a team based on proximity to "home." "Support" would include attending some games, buying merch, on down to rooting for. Green Bay is considered small market because Wisconsin is fairly low population and if you get very far out, you run into Bears fans or Viking territory. Jacksonville is considered a small market because it's not that far from the Georgia line, above which you have mostly Atlanta fans, half the geographical sphere is in the ocean, and there's an overlap with the Bucs.
But teams like the LA Dodgers, already living in a huge population market, have a national following. Small market teams can be good, win championships, etc., but will never be as valuable to the league as the big market teams.

[Ulysses]

AFAIK, The SF Giants are paying their players quite well.

And, as I recall, they have won a number of World Series, as well.

As have their putative rivals across the Bay, the A's.

But please don't ask me for the stats. I don't track that shit. I just like the game.

[Vrede too]

AFAIK, The SF Giants are paying their players quite well.

And, as I recall, they have won a number of World Series, as well.

As have their putative rivals across the Bay, the A's.

But please don't ask me for the stats. I don't track that shit. I just like the game.

You're deflecting, as usual when you've screwed up by making stupid accusations, and as usual when you get caught.

Anyhow, no one ever said that the Bay Area is a small market, just that it's smaller than LA. Also, pay and perks matter, but they're not everything. Hence, small market teams sometimes win.

[Ulysses]

I'm at a loss to figure what the hell I'm supposed to be deflecting.

Maybe I'm not crazy enough.

[Vrede too]

I'm at a loss to figure what the hell I'm supposed to be deflecting.

Maybe I'm not crazy enough.

So teams from smaller cities don't count?

Like the Braves, the White Sox, the Red Sox, even the Cubs?

What kind of totalitarian outlook does that suggest?

Geez, you need even the simplest things explained to you.
GoCubsGo JOKED that, "It's all fixed!"
I played along with the JOKE by accurately citing the relative market size that you're so clueless about.
Even if we weren't JOKING, we said NOTHING to endorse big markets over smaller ones, crybaby. In reality, I prefer Oakland and SF to LA, by far. I was even rooting for SF over LA. Pay attention.

Also, it is MLB, not us, that has decided, in part, that "smaller cities don't count". Hence, no salary caps. Didn't you know?

Now, cower again. You always do.

[Ulysses]

Not cowering. I simply ignore your stupid sarcastic games of inverted logic.

Try growing up.

[Vrede too]

Now, cower again. You always do.

Exactly as predicted. Sad.

Elaborate on this supposed inverted logic and this nonexistent sarcasm or, as usual, cower Useless cower since the utter lack of specificity in your whining tells us that you won't be able to explain.

Try growing a pair when you've fucked up and we can all see it.

[Vrede too]

I missed this while watching football:
https://sports.yahoo.com/boston-red-sox ... 42704.html

... The Red Sox hit two grand slams in the first two innings off of two different Houston Astros pitchers en route to their 9-5 win at Minute Maid Park. Boston is now the first team in MLB postseason history to have multiple grand slams in a single game....