Race, lets make this serious! It is nearly 2013.

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O Really wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:31 pm
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True, but I think we can read something into the parents' choice to send Gracie to a fundie Xtian school.
https://www.oakbrookprep.org/about/what-we-believe
Antisemitism and homophobia are hardly surprising there. Then, it's been said that America is at its most segregated on Sunday mornings. Spartanburg is 43.75% Black or African American (non-Hispanic). Notice anything about this pic from Oakbrook Preparatory School's homepage?

What "values" did the parents think that she would be exposed to there?
Well, there's that.
If this was drug related, Gracie would already be in rehab.
Booze rehab is still a possibility/excuse.
Is there bigot rehab? I'd suggest a Spartanburg public school.
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The Russell Senate Office Building is literally named after the face of racism.
This from today's Hartmann Report
More at his article but you'll have to Google. I couldn't figure out how to link it


"'Russell's entire political career focused on his single-minded use of the filibuster to block Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation, just like a few well-known senators are doing today..."'

"Democratic Senator Richard Russell was most famous as the guy who wielded the filibuster to destroy Civil Rights legislation.  Most of the time he was quite successful, spending decades scuttling legislation proposed to outlaw lynching, end school segregation, or to insure voting rights."

"In 1932 Russell, then the openly segregationist Governor of Georgia, won election to the US Senate from that state, taking office in 1933.  He immediately joined the “Southern Bloc” to fight northern Democrats Robert Wagner’s and Edward Costigan’s proposed 1933 legislation to outlaw lynching."

"First lady Eleanor Roosevelt had joined the NAACP by then and was an outspoken advocate of the anti-lynching legislation, which so pissed off Southern Democrats like Russell that they threatened to block parts of President Roosevelt’s New Deal legislation if he signed onto the bill."

"Their efforts notwithstanding, the anti-lynching legislation championed by Eleanor Roosevelt and Robert Wagner made it through the House: it landed in the Senate with a thud."

"Richard Russell immediately stepped up to kill the bill, establishing a pattern of opposing Civil Rights legislation that held for his entire political career."

“'As one who was born and reared in the atmosphere of the old South,” Russell said when the legislation was brought forward, “with six generations of my forebears now resting beneath Southern soil, I am willing to go as far and make as great a sacrifice to preserve and insure white supremacy in the social, economic, and political life of our state as any man who lives within her borders.”'

"That man — who proudly and eloquently proclaimed he was willing to lay down his life to defend white supremacy — is now memorialized daily, every time somebody notices or mentions his name in the context of the oldest and most storied of the Senate’s three office buildings."

"Russell was so passionate about maintaining the right of white people to hang Black people by the neck for public spectacle that he personally filibustered Senator Wagner’s and First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt’s 1935 anti-lynching bill for six long, exhausting days.  It established him, along with Senator Strom Thurmond, as one of the Senate’s leading defenders of white supremacy."

"Three years later, when Senator Wagner got a new anti-lynching bill through the House and to the Senate in 1938, Russell participated in a successful thirty-day filibuster of the legislation."


"Thus, when Russell died in 1972, the segregationists sprang to action to create one more memorial to racism in America.  Within weeks of his death, they’d pushed through Congress a resolution to affix his name to what is now the Russell Senate Office Building."
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🤯🤯😠

I didn't know this. With voting rights and the filibuster so prevalent at the moment, this should be shouted from rooftops by the Dems.

There seem to be half hearted efforts for a while. Why no traction?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Russell_Jr.


https://hartmannreport.com/p/want-to-hi ... s-blocking

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hres1042
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:42 pm
🤯🤯😠

I didn't know this. With voting rights and the filibuster so prevalent at the moment, this should be shouted from rooftops by the Dems.

There seem to be half hearted efforts for a while. Why no traction?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Russell_Jr.


https://hartmannreport.com/p/want-to-hi ... s-blocking

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hres1042
Sensible democratic shouting from rooftops - now there's an idea untried.
Instead we quietly bring bills and resolutions.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:36 pm
... Within weeks of his death, they’d pushed through Congress a resolution to affix his name to what is now the Russell Senate Office Building."
An SOB was named for an SOB.
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Vrede too wrote:
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:36 pm
... Within weeks of his death, they’d pushed through Congress a resolution to affix his name to what is now the Russell Senate Office Building."
An SOB was named for an SOB.
Dat funny


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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:14 am
Dat funny

Why don't we have a "like" button?
We have thumbs, instead? :thumbup:

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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:19 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:14 am
Dat funny

Why don't we have a "like" button?
We have thumbs, instead? :thumbup:

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Yeah, but you have to make another post and eventually it gets too long.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:08 am
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:19 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:14 am
Dat funny

Why don't we have a "like" button?
We have thumbs, instead? :thumbup:

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Yeah, but you have to make another post and eventually it gets too long.
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What part of the nation elected that guy Russell, again?

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Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:50 am
What part of the nation elected that guy Russell, again?
What part of "senator from Georgia" is confusing?

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What part of the nation elected that guy Russell, again?
He was a Dem, like you. What's your point?
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O Really wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:09 pm
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Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:50 am
What part of the nation elected that guy Russell, again?
What part of "senator from Georgia" is confusing?
And in what part of the nation is Georgia located, again?

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Like a mongrel dog to a bone.
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:18 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:50 am
What part of the nation elected that guy Russell, again?
He was a Dem, like you. What's your point?
He doesn’t have one. He just says shit to make himself feel better.
All the cars, the house with its many additions and carports, garden, orchard, waterscape all on a little residential lot seems more of a fabrication than a reality.
Could useless be in a different type of home?
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O Really wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:09 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:50 am
What part of the nation elected that guy Russell, again?
What part of "senator from Georgia" is confusing?
Rather than be upset about the building's racist name, all he gets is some I'm better than you high school shit
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:30 pm
O Really wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:09 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:50 am
What part of the nation elected that guy Russell, again?
What part of "senator from Georgia" is confusing?
Rather than be upset about the building's racist name, all he gets is some I'm better than you high school nursery school shit
FTFY.
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I've found by reason and experience that it's not really a good idea to judge a place/area before you've actually spent some time there. Likely somebody else's perceptions aren't necessarily yours, and old tales, stereotypes, and isolated events don't paint a realistic picture. I've got many examples where my perception of a place didn't come close to matching the reality I found when I actually went there. Lady O used to laugh at me because, as she said, "you think once you get west of the Mississippi River, there's nothing but dragons and wild Indians until you get to California." Maybe an exaggeration, but not far off. I figured they call it "fly-over" land for good reason. At the very bottom of my list of expectations was Kansas, that I really dreaded the prospect of driving through. I saw it as 450 miles of nothing, with the added risk of tornados, and inhabited by characters from "Music Man". Wrong. Spend a bit of time somewhere, meet a few real people, get off the freeway, you get a better picture.

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I've found by reason and experience that it's not really a good idea to judge a place/area before you've actually spent some time there. Likely somebody else's perceptions aren't necessarily yours, and old tales, stereotypes, and isolated events don't paint a realistic picture. I've got many examples where my perception of a place didn't come close to matching the reality I found when I actually went there. Lady O used to laugh at me because, as she said, "you think once you get west of the Mississippi River, there's nothing but dragons and wild Indians until you get to California." Maybe an exaggeration, but not far off. I figured they call it "fly-over" land for good reason. At the very bottom of my list of expectations was Kansas, that I really dreaded the prospect of driving through. I saw it as 450 miles of nothing, with the added risk of tornados, and inhabited by characters from "Music Man". Wrong. Spend a bit of time somewhere, meet a few real people, get off the freeway, you get a better picture.
I felt the same way about Miami. I was there briefly in the late 80s or early 90s and didn't get a good impression at all. I was researching marinas and country club sales. Everyone was an asshole.

Between 2012 and 2016 I spent 8 or 10 months total in and close to Miami. I stayed mostly in Cuban neighborhoods and loved it. Great food and the respect for their landscaping and cars in the poorer neighborhoods was a thing I had never seen in many other poor neighborhoods.
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Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:19 pm
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This means that California's 2 Dem Senators, John V. Tunney and Alan Cranston, voted to honor the supremacist and segregationist Russell in perpetuity. You probably voted for them. So, either tell us what this says about YOUR racism or admit that this entire tangent of yours is moronic. You can't have it both ways.

Or, cower from the point like you always do, pussy.
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