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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:31 am


"So it goes"

“Poo-tee-weet?"
Had to look it up, but yeah.

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Vrede too wrote:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:21 pm
Jan. 6 panelists: Enough evidence uncovered to indict Trump

Guesses as to whether milquetoast Garland indicts or gets a grand jury to? Maybe it's wishful thinking, but a bipartisan House committee is a powerful thing. I'll say 60-40 that Garland goes for it.
Garland is in a shit position.

Good opinion piece, doesn't cover everything but is food for thought.

Prosecute Trump? Put Yourself in Merrick Garland’s Shoes.
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He has to do it, but probably has waited too long to begin an investigation.

I'll probably always believe that he's in trump's pocket.

Muller set the stage when he refused to interview trump under oath.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:04 am
Garland is in a shit position.

Good opinion piece, doesn't cover everything but is food for thought.

Prosecute Trump? Put Yourself in Merrick Garland’s Shoes
Here's a non-paywall version, intact I think:
https://news-universe.com/2022/06/20/op ... nds-shoes/

I'm glad no one is asking me to decide and to carry out that decision.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:13 am
He has to do it, but probably has waited too long to begin an investigation.

I'll probably always believe that he's in trump's pocket.

Muller set the stage when he refused to interview trump under oath.
Do we know that DoJ hasn't been investigating TRE45ON for awhile, in conjunction with the hundreds of prosecutions?
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:18 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:04 am
Garland is in a shit position.

Good opinion piece, doesn't cover everything but is food for thought.

Prosecute Trump? Put Yourself in Merrick Garland’s Shoes
Here's a non-paywall version, intact I think:
https://news-universe.com/2022/06/20/op ... nds-shoes/

I'm glad no one is asking me to decide and to carry out that decision.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:13 am
He has to do it, but probably has waited too long to begin an investigation.

I'll probably always believe that he's in trump's pocket.

Muller set the stage when he refused to interview trump under oath.
Do we know that DoJ hasn't been investigating TRE45ON for awhile, in conjunction with the hundreds of prosecutions?
Wouldn't we have heard if they called any of the organizers in for an interview?
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:39 am
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:18 am
Do we know that DoJ hasn't been investigating TRE45ON for awhile, in conjunction with the hundreds of prosecutions?
Wouldn't we have heard if they called any of the organizers in for an interview?
Good point, but there are also thousands of emails and other comms, and Idk if DoJ was sitting in on all of the Committee interviews or getting videos the next day.

I'd love to see subpoenas with teeth for all of the cowardly traitors that obstructed the Committee the moment it wraps up, but I won't hold my breath.
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None of these people are getting near the penalty they should. If I were one of the judges, I'd make it hurt. Sentences are worse for some of the people who only tried to buy their kid into college than for violent obstruction of Congress. Hell, Martha Stewart served 5 months plus 5 months home confinement for lying about a stock sale.

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O Really wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:46 am
None of these people are getting near the penalty they should. If I were one of the judges, I'd make it hurt. Sentences are worse for some of the people who only tried to buy their kid into college than for violent obstruction of Congress. Hell, Martha Stewart served 5 months plus 5 months home confinement for lying about a stock sale.
A smattering have gotten several years, but you're mostly correct. We'll see, most of the pleas have been to mildish charges. The folks facing heavy charges are taking it to trial.
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:47 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:39 am
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:18 am
Do we know that DoJ hasn't been investigating TRE45ON for awhile, in conjunction with the hundreds of prosecutions?
Wouldn't we have heard if they called any of the organizers in for an interview?
Good point, but there are also thousands of emails and other comms, and Idk if DoJ was sitting in on all of the Committee interviews or getting videos the next day.

I'd love to see subpoenas with teeth for all of the cowardly traitors that obstructed the Committee the moment it wraps up, but I won't hold my breath.
The DOJ has already started its investigation. A couple of weeks ago they asked the Committee for transcripts and some other stuff. Initially the Committee refused their request saying that they haven't finished their own hearings. I've read since then that Justice and the Committee have come to some sort of arrangement.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:52 am
The DOJ has already started its investigation. A couple of weeks ago they asked the Committee for transcripts and some other stuff. Initially the Committee refused their request saying that they haven't finished their own hearings. I've read since then that Justice and the Committee have come to some sort of arrangement.
Ah, thanks. I sure hope they were doing lots of other investigation stuff prior to a couple of weeks ago.

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They need to pick up the pace. Majorly.


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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:52 am
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:47 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:39 am
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:18 am
Do we know that DoJ hasn't been investigating TRE45ON for awhile, in conjunction with the hundreds of prosecutions?
Wouldn't we have heard if they called any of the organizers in for an interview?
Good point, but there are also thousands of emails and other comms, and Idk if DoJ was sitting in on all of the Committee interviews or getting videos the next day.

I'd love to see subpoenas with teeth for all of the cowardly traitors that obstructed the Committee the moment it wraps up, but I won't hold my breath.
The DOJ has already started its investigation. A couple of weeks ago they asked the Committee for transcripts and some other stuff. Initially the Committee refused their request saying that they haven't finished their own hearings. I've read since then that Justice and the Committee have come to some sort of arrangement.
Hardly an investigation. They've done nothing in a year and a half and now want someone else's work.

Unless i missed something, the Committee has made their point that they can't afford to turn over their unfinished work.
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The testimony from the Repub AZ and GA secretaries of state is devastating. The fake electors should be charged with conspiracy felonies, but I haven't heard it suggested yet. I hope they're at least being named and shamed in their states.

I also hope this woman is able to sue TRE45ON, Rudy, etc for millions:

Jan. 6 hearing: Ga. election worker and her mother say Trump's 'lies' led to death threats

What was done to her alone ought to be sufficient basis for criminal charges, too.
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This is a good point:
No matter what happens in Nov, Garland will still bring Trump and his ilk to justice. After Nov, the Congressional Panel will not be needed. Their job will be done.

The World already knows the truth. Trumpers and hatemongers will never get it.
I was thinking that there is a likely Jan 2023 expiration date, but that's only on congressional action.
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Another guy that deserves some time in the spotlight.


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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:46 am
Another guy that deserves some time in the spotlight.


His explanation was good comedy.
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Speaking of sedition.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:15 pm
O Really wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:03 pm
They need to pick up the pace. Majorly.
Could this be the smoking gun? 🤞🤞🤞

Please, please please.
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