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New rumblings. This time?
If the Commanders leaked Jon Gruden’s emails, then Dan Snyder’s vengeance ended his NFL ownership

... Publicly, everyone denied having anything to do with it. Privately, it turns out there was a significant accusation by the NFL, one that appeared to put the onus for the leaks onto the Washington franchise. An allegation that, if true, would mean that the person most responsible for Dan Snyder’s downfall is the person we suspected all along.

Dan Snyder.

What is Snyder's connection to the Gruden emails?

Thursday’s revelations from a 79-page congressional report did nothing to diminish that belief, with the House Oversight Committee publishing findings that got right to the point in the title of the document: “Conduct Detrimental: How the NFL and the Washington Commanders Covered Up Decades of Sexual Misconduct.” It contained a multitude of allegations that walk the reader right into Snyder’s office and then proceeds to empty all the garbage cans on his desk.

The report is most appropriately summed up by this paragraph: “The results of the Committee’s investigation, as laid out in this report, are clear: sexual harassment, bullying, and other toxic conduct pervaded the workplace at the Washington Commanders and were perpetuated by a culture of fear instilled by the Team’s owner.”

One nugget buried on page 42 should be of particular interest. It goes all the way back to those Gruden emails, which can arguably be described as the crack that eventually led to Snyder’s crumbling ownership reign. Because one of the undeniable truths of this entire mess for Snyder was that in the late summer of 2021, he appeared to be on the verge of surviving another investigation and the umpteenth round of intense scrutiny and criticism.

Then the Gruden emails leaked in October and everything changed....

It’s still just Allen testifying to an allegation that Friel made to him and there is no mention of evidence that was furnished to back it up. That said, it’s one hell of a wild allegation, if only for the fact that it stimulated total legal chaos for Snyder in the aftermath. Should he eventually sell his team, those leaked emails should be remembered as arguably the most significant turning point in the effort to get Snyder out of the league....

Leaked emails could ultimately lead to Snyder's downfall

It would basically paint Dan Snyder in the role of Viktor Tupolev, the Russian naval commander who accidentally sunk his own submarine in the movie "The Hunt for Red October." Tupolev chased down his former mentor, Marko Ramius, and fired a torpedo to send his friend to the bottom of the ocean, only to watch that same torpedo circle back and destroy his submarine as one of his officers pronounced, “You arrogant ass. You’ve killed us.”

... Whether there are breadcrumbs between the two has not been proven. Nor is there evidence that this is why Friel was pointing at the team as the source of the leaks. However the leaks happened, the fallout is the real story at this point.

That part is less conjecture. It can be measured in not only Thursday’s congressional report, but the litigation brought by District of Columbia Attorney General Karl Racine, the forthcoming investigation from Mary Jo White (which will be the third significant probe into Snyder and his franchise), the Gruden lawsuit against the NFL and potentially other pieces of litigation yet to be revealed.

At the center of them all: Vengeance, power and Dan Snyder.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:19 pm
No. 1 Draft Pick



Baker Mayfield!

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I'm neither a Mayfield fan nor hater, but you gotta give him credit for the game he played last night. Imagine showing up on Tuesday and playing two days later?

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I'm neither a Mayfield fan nor hater, but you gotta give him credit for the game he played last night. Imagine showing up on Tuesday and playing two days later?
Why even have 2 other QBs on the roster besides injured Matthew Stafford if the best option is to start a multi-castoff QB with just two days prep?
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O Really wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:17 pm
I'm neither a Mayfield fan nor hater, but you gotta give him credit for the game he played last night. Imagine showing up on Tuesday and playing two days later?
Why even have 2 other QBs on the roster besides injured Matthew Stafford if the best option is to start a multi-castoff QB with just two days prep?
They've gotta be thinking "wait - I'm not better than this guy who just got fired from the pathetic Panthers and has been here two days? Maybe I better check on getting out of my apartment lease."

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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:17 pm
I'm neither a Mayfield fan nor hater, but you gotta give him credit for the game he played last night. Imagine showing up on Tuesday and playing two days later?
Why even have 2 other QBs on the roster besides injured Matthew Stafford if the best option is to start a multi-castoff QB with just two days prep?
They've gotta be thinking "wait - I'm not better than this guy who just got fired from the pathetic Panthers and has been here two days? Maybe I better check on getting out of my apartment lease."
:D Definitely the 4th stringer. The 3rd stringer MAY be thinking: 'Cool, adequate pay and low risk of getting injured in an already failed year, I'll take it.' ;)
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TV Here

1:00 PM EST PHI
Eagles 11-1 (-7.5) @Giants 7-4-1, TV: FOX
I like the Eagles and Giants, and I want Seattle and possibly the Lions in the Playoffs :think: Go football!

GO Ravens 8-4 > @Steelers 5-7 (-2), TV: CBS
Lamar or no?

4:25 PM EST
GO @Seahawks 7-5 (-4) > Panthers 4-8, TV: FOX
Seattle is barely in the 3rd Wildcard slot.

Also Go

1:00 PM EST
Jets 7-5 > @Bills 9-3 (-10)
I like both, but New York is barely in the 3rd Wildcard slot by a game.
Browns 5-7 > @Bengals 8-4 (-5.5), GO Ravens!
Texans 1-10-1 > @Cowboys 9-3 (-17.5 :shock: )
As if. I'm not counting a Houston loss against my tally.
@Lions 5-7 (-1.5) > Vikings 10-2
See above for discussion of the lack of respect that the Vikings are getting. I like both, but Minnesota has won the Div and Detroit is struggling to reach the Playoffs.

4:05 PM EST
@Broncos 3-9 > Kansas City 9-3 (-9.5). As if.

4:25 PM EST
@49ers 8-4 (-3.5) > Brady Bay 6-6

8:20 PM EST
Dolphins 8-4 (-3.5) > @Los Angeles Traitors 6-6

Mon, 12/12, 8:15 PM EST
@Cardinals 4-8 > Patriots 6-6 (-2)
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Mercifully, it's the Bears bye week.
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We get Iggles-Giants, Bucs-40ers, and KC/Denver
Fortunately, may be good games since we're having a rare rainy day.
Speaking of which - weather chick last night actually offered caution to drivers saying "a lot of people aren't used to driving in the rain." :lol: True, but still.

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We get Iggles-Giants, Bucs-40ers, and KC/Denver
Fortunately, may be good games since we're having a rare rainy day.
Speaking of which - weather chick last night actually offered caution to drivers saying "a lot of people aren't used to driving in the rain." :lol: True, but still.


FWIW, the dry roads are covered with exhaust and tire tread that do make them extremely slippery when the first rains hit.

Rainageddon. :lol:
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Note: GoCubsGo beat me to it again. Great minds . . .
O Really wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:31 am
We get Iggles-Giants, Bucs-40ers, and KC/Denver
Fortunately, may be good games since we're having a rare rainy day.
Speaking of which - weather chick last night actually offered caution to drivers saying "a lot of people aren't used to driving in the rain." :lol: True, but still.
Cut her some slack. On one of the few days other than "sunny and warm", she's going to squeeze the event for anything she can think of. Fwiw, she has a point beyond the obvious. When the weeks or months of accumulated oil on the roads gets wet it turns slicker than snot, much worse than here when it rains.

KC/Denver a good game?
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Note: GoCubsGo beat me to it again. Great minds . . .
O Really wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:31 am
We get Iggles-Giants, Bucs-40ers, and KC/Denver
Fortunately, may be good games since we're having a rare rainy day.
Speaking of which - weather chick last night actually offered caution to drivers saying "a lot of people aren't used to driving in the rain." :lol: True, but still.
Cut her some slack. On one of the few days other than "sunny and warm", she's going to squeeze the event for anything she can think of. Fwiw, she has a point beyond the obvious. When the weeks or months of accumulated oil on the roads gets wet it turns slicker than snot, much worse than here when it rains.

KC/Denver a good game?
Yeah, I know about the dry-to-goosepoop slick phenomenon. I just thought the way she offered her warning was funny.

KC/Denver isn't a game I would have picked, but it is entertaining to see how often Wilson is on his back. I, along with others, howled when he got traded, but it looks like a good decision now. Seahawks are taking on Panthers - we don't get that one.

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I've got Detroit/Minnesota and Jets/Bill's early.

How can Detroit be favored?

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I've got Detroit/Minnesota and Jets/Bill's early.

How can Detroit be favored?

What don't I know?
Lions up by 7 at half; Vikes muffed opportunity to score. Maybe there was something the oddsmakers knew. Another half - we'll see.

Meanwhile, Iggles fly.

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Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:57 pm
I've got Detroit/Minnesota and Jets/Bill's early.

How can Detroit be favored?

What don't I know?
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:57 pm
I've got Detroit/Minnesota and Jets/Bill's early.

How can Detroit be favored?

What don't I know?
Apparently I don't know a lot.

Jared Goff looking good.
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Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:12 pm
Apparently I don't know a lot.

Jared Goff looking good.
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TV Here

1:00 PM EST PHI
Eagles 11-1 (-7.5) @Giants 7-4-1, TV: FOX
I like the Eagles and Giants, and I want Seattle and possibly the Lions in the Playoffs :think: Go football!
Eagles looking strong, 48-22!

GO Ravens 8-4 > @Steelers 5-7 (-2), TV: CBS
Lamar or no?
Lamar not dressed, 2nd string out with a hit to the head, Ravens hang on to win 16-14 on the strength of 200+ yards rushing. Good thing since the Bengals won.

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1:00 PM EST
Jets 7-5 > @Bills 9-3 (-10)
I like both, but New York is barely in the 3rd Wildcard slot by a game.
Awww, 12-20.
Browns 5-7 > @Bengals 8-4 (-5.5), GO Ravens!
Nope. :(
Texans 1-10-1 > @Cowboys 9-3 (-17.5 :shock: )
As if. I'm not counting a Houston loss against my tally.
CRAP! Cowboys drive 98 yards to score a game-winning TD with 0:41 remaining, 23-27.
@Lions 5-7 (-1.5) > Vikings 10-2
See above for discussion of the lack of respect that the Vikings are getting. I like both, but Minnesota has won the Div and Detroit is struggling to reach the Playoffs.
Scores on 7 straight possessions in the 2nd half, just 1 punt. Lions 34-23. :thumbup:
2-3.

Also, 4-8 Jags > 7-5 TN. :shock:
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You're welcome.

Passing Comp Att Yds TD Int QBRat
Mitch Trubisky 22 30 276 1 3 73.1
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:38 pm
You're welcome.

Passing Comp Att Yds TD Int QBRat
Mitch Trubisky 22 30 276 1 3 73.1
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Cool.

I can only name one defensive starter now.

https://mobile.twitter.com/YahooSports/ ... 9769693184
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Thank you.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:04 pm
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