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neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:09 am
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Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:47 am
Didn't we have a Big Beautiful Bill ready to go in 2024 until DonOld killed it?

Why don't they resurrect it?
I'll take "They'd much rather spew LAW (Lying And Whining) than do anything else" for six hundred.
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They really haven't done any yet have they except pass the CR?
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:11 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:09 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:47 am
Didn't we have a Big Beautiful Bill ready to go in 2024 until DonOld killed it?

Why don't they resurrect it?
I'll take "They'd much rather spew LAW (Lying And Whining) than do anything else" for six hundred.
LOL

They really haven't done any yet have they except pass the CR?
They do massive amounts of LAW every damn day. They have a propaganda television network that amplifies the LAW every damn day. They have used LAW lately to ban books, delete stuff from websites, strip universities of existing research grants, and even use LAW to punish major (real) law firms.

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Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:26 am

Your post properly explains why good vetting controls at the border are needed. Illegals do not need to be admitted until they can be processed properly.
A person seeking asylum isn't illegal, but don't take my word for it. Look it up. Probably even faux would explain that to you. I do favor the requirement for asylum seekers who are already in a safe-ish country to stay there pending approval, but that should be the law, not the fiat based on some self-created "crisis." Don't like the current law? Change it, but in the meantime, follow it.

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Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:36 am

A person seeking asylum isn't illegal, but don't take my word for it. Look it up. Probably even faux would explain that to you. I do favor the requirement for asylum seekers who are already in a safe-ish country to stay there pending approval, but that should be the law, not the fiat based on some self-created "crisis." Don't like the current law? Change it, but in the meantime, follow it.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:11 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:09 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:47 am
Didn't we have a Big Beautiful Bill ready to go in 2024 until DonOld killed it?

Why don't they resurrect it?
I'll take "They'd much rather spew LAW (Lying And Whining) than do anything else" for six hundred.
LOL

They really haven't done any yet have they except pass the CR?
As I understand what they have passed is an outline. Now the bill has to be written. That is where the difficulty comes.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:54 am
O Really wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:36 am
A person seeking asylum isn't illegal, but don't take my word for it. Look it up. Probably even faux would explain that to you. I do favor the requirement for asylum seekers who are already in a safe-ish country to stay there pending approval, but that should be the law, not the fiat based on some self-created "crisis." Don't like the current law? Change it, but in the meantime, follow it.
LOL
It's indicative of the poor quality of debate that after years of heated discussion asylum LAW still needs to be explained to MAGAts.
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O Really wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:36 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:26 am

Your post properly explains why good vetting controls at the border are needed. Illegals do not need to be admitted until they can be processed properly.
A person seeking asylum isn't illegal, but don't take my word for it. Look it up. Probably even faux would explain that to you. I do favor the requirement for asylum seekers who are already in a safe-ish country to stay there pending approval, but that should be the law, not the fiat based on some self-created "crisis." Don't like the current law? Change it, but in the meantime, follow it.
Would you allow these asylum seekers in your gated community?
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“The left-wing narrative is dominated by privileged people who tend to live in beautiful gated communities. They are untouched and insulated from the policies that they pushed for” :wtf:
https://www.workersliberty.org/story/20 ... ailed-left
NEW YORK (AP) — For more than a year, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has been busing migrants from the southern U.S. border to places like New York, Washington and Chicago, prompting angry complaints from Democratic officials in those cities.
https://apnews.com/article/migrants-new ... 73803254ee

Can they send a busload to your gated community?

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:11 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:09 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:47 am
Didn't we have a Big Beautiful Bill ready to go in 2024 until DonOld killed it?

Why don't they resurrect it?
I'll take "They'd much rather spew LAW (Lying And Whining) than do anything else" for six hundred.
LOL

They really haven't done any yet have they except pass the CR?
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am
They do massive amounts of LAW every damn day. They have a propaganda television network that amplifies the LAW every damn day. They have used LAW lately to ban books, delete stuff from websites, strip universities of existing research grants, and even use LAW to punish major (real) law firms.
After a couple of years of LAW if the courts have proved to be an impediment to MAGA's immigration schemes they will resurrect the Big Beautiful Immigration Bill. If it passes DonOld will take credit for it then resume LAW.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:43 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:11 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:09 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:47 am
Didn't we have a Big Beautiful Bill ready to go in 2024 until DonOld killed it?

Why don't they resurrect it?
I'll take "They'd much rather spew LAW (Lying And Whining) than do anything else" for six hundred.
LOL

They really haven't done any yet have they except pass the CR?
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am
They do massive amounts of LAW every damn day. They have a propaganda television network that amplifies the LAW every damn day. They have used LAW lately to ban books, delete stuff from websites, strip universities of existing research grants, and even use LAW to punish major (real) law firms.
After a couple of years of LAW if the courts have proved to be an impediment to MAGA's immigration schemes they will resurrect the Big Beautiful Immigration Bill. If it passes DonOld will take credit for it then resume LAW.
Hell, as long as trump and his Republican suckophants are around, LAW (Lying And Whining) will never end. Even should every American live in a gated community in the future (like a state or federal prison) LAW will not be abandoned. At that point, it will be mandatory.

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Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:41 pm
NEW YORK (AP) — For more than a year, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has been busing migrants from the southern U.S. border to places like New York, Washington and Chicago, prompting angry complaints from Democratic officials in those cities.
https://apnews.com/article/migrants-new ... 73803254ee
You wouldn't be angry, would you? Your backyard is as good as anyone else's, right?

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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:49 pm
Hell, as long as trump and his Republican suckophants are around, LAW (Lying And Whining) will never end. Even should every American live in a gated community in the future (like a state or federal prison) LAW will not be abandoned. At that point, it will be mandatory.
:thumbup: All these incompetent fiascos that are piling up for MAGA, DonOLD will soon LAW that they are somehow the Dems' fault. Watch.
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There used to be a common scam (and maybe still is) where disreputable auto mechanics (before they were "technicians") would "find" a "serious" problem that the owner is "lucky to have come in when you did." The so-called problem was because the guy had tweaked a carburetor adjustment screw (when there were carburetors) or slightly loosened a plug wire and the motor would run like a three-legged dog. The customer would be horrified to see how the car was running and soooo grateful that s/he didn't get stranded on some dark back road and hand over a lot of money to get it "fixed." If there is a more perfect analogy to Trump's game of creating a problem, exaggerating its severity and "fixing" it at great cost, I'd sure like to hear it.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:50 am
There used to be a common scam (and maybe still is) where disreputable auto mechanics (before they were "technicians") would "find" a "serious" problem that the owner is "lucky to have come in when you did." The so-called problem was because the guy had tweaked a carburetor adjustment screw (when there were carburetors) or slightly loosened a plug wire and the motor would run like a three-legged dog. The customer would be horrified to see how the car was running and soooo grateful that s/he didn't get stranded on some dark back road and hand over a lot of money to get it "fixed." If there is a more perfect analogy to Trump's game of creating a problem, exaggerating its severity and "fixing" it at great cost, I'd sure like to hear it.
The mechanics were competent crooks.
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O Really wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:50 am
There used to be a common scam (and maybe still is) where disreputable auto mechanics (before they were "technicians") would "find" a "serious" problem that the owner is "lucky to have come in when you did." The so-called problem was because the guy had tweaked a carburetor adjustment screw (when there were carburetors) or slightly loosened a plug wire and the motor would run like a three-legged dog. The customer would be horrified to see how the car was running and soooo grateful that s/he didn't get stranded on some dark back road and hand over a lot of money to get it "fixed." If there is a more perfect analogy to Trump's game of creating a problem, exaggerating its severity and "fixing" it at great cost, I'd sure like to hear it.
Relocate to a gated community? :lol:

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:06 pm
O Really wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:50 am
There used to be a common scam (and maybe still is) where disreputable auto mechanics (before they were "technicians") would "find" a "serious" problem that the owner is "lucky to have come in when you did." The so-called problem was because the guy had tweaked a carburetor adjustment screw (when there were carburetors) or slightly loosened a plug wire and the motor would run like a three-legged dog. The customer would be horrified to see how the car was running and soooo grateful that s/he didn't get stranded on some dark back road and hand over a lot of money to get it "fixed." If there is a more perfect analogy to Trump's game of creating a problem, exaggerating its severity and "fixing" it at great cost, I'd sure like to hear it.
The mechanics were competent crooks.
:lol: Yeah, most of them are able to fix the problem they caused. The S&P is still down 756 (14.1%) from the inauguration.
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:07 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:49 pm
Hell, as long as trump and his Republican suckophants are around, LAW (Lying And Whining) will never end. Even should every American live in a gated community in the future (like a state or federal prison) LAW will not be abandoned. At that point, it will be mandatory.
:thumbup: All these incompetent fiascos that are piling up for MAGA, DonOLD will soon LAW that they are somehow the Dems' fault. Watch.
No doubt about it. Even in the face of his statement the other day that "I know what the hell I'm doing." Right.....that holds as much credibility as "They're eating the dogs." What an idiot. Yet the cult gushes in awe and wallows in its ignorance. sad

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neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:30 am
Vrede too wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:07 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:49 pm
Hell, as long as trump and his Republican suckophants are around, LAW (Lying And Whining) will never end. Even should every American live in a gated community in the future (like a state or federal prison) LAW will not be abandoned. At that point, it will be mandatory.
:thumbup: All these incompetent fiascos that are piling up for MAGA, DonOLD will soon LAW that they are somehow the Dems' fault. Watch.
No doubt about it. Even in the face of his statement the other day that "I know what the hell I'm doing." Right.....that holds as much credibility as "They're eating the dogs." What an idiot. Yet the cult gushes in awe and wallows in its ignorance. sad
China could teach the illegal immigrants how to prepare them. They cornered the market on the dog delicacy. Americans, especially women, treat pets as part of the family. China could invest in Pets R Us and branch out.
Only if China would take some illegal immigrants in trade for lesser tariff restrictions. They already have a food choice for them.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:49 pm
Hell, as long as trump and his Republican suckophants are around, LAW (Lying And Whining) will never end. Even should every American live in a gated community in the future (like a state or federal prison) LAW will not be abandoned. At that point, it will be mandatory.
neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:30 am
Vrede too wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:07 am
:thumbup: All these incompetent fiascos that are piling up for MAGA, DonOLD will soon LAW that they are somehow the Dems' fault. Watch.
No doubt about it. Even in the face of his statement the other day that "I know what the hell I'm doing." Right.....that holds as much credibility as "They're eating the dogs." What an idiot. Yet the cult gushes in awe and wallows in its ignorance. sad
:thumbup: I can't decide who is dumber, DonOLD or his MAGAt sycophants.
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Ummm, that would be the MAGAf sycophants. The DonOld is making a killing off his graft and generally living the good life. MAGAts get only the shaft and it's broken.

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O Really wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:11 pm
Ummm, that would be the MAGAf sycophants. The DonOld is making a killing off his graft and generally living the good life. MAGAts get only the shaft and it's broken.
Strange how they don't even realize it. It's like Twilght Zone shit.

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