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Correct, of course, but "plurality" vs "majority" only matters if you're trying something of value in the ashes of your burned down house. It's not a meaningful distinction outside the US.
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Guessing we know how this election is gonna go.
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It's weird that a hotelier and resort guy would be so bad for international tourism . . . unless one remembers all of DonOLD's other failed businesses.GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:44 amGuessing we know how this election is gonna go.
https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/19 ... 1925836260
https://x.com/NateSilver538/status/1916834346285125937
https://x.com/NateSilver538/status/1916834344355651911
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Fortunately, pluralities matter in parliamentary systems.
DonOLD just can't help himself:
Conservatives were expected to win this election, until PINO was such an asshole to Canada. Now, Conservatives are desperate to limit the damage.Trump implies Canadians vote for him on election day, Poilievre tells president to butt out
U.S. president posted about election on his Truth Social platform
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre told the U.S. president to butt out of the federal election after Donald Trump appeared to suggest Canadians vote for him when they go to the polls on Monday.
"President Trump, stay out of our election. The only people who will decide the future of Canada are Canadians at the ballot box," Poilievre posted on social media.
Even though it's PINO I'm still kind of embarrassed for America.Poilievre's comments came shortly after Trump injected himself into the federal election with a post on his social media site Truth Social, which began: "Good luck to the Great people of Canada."
"Elect the man who has the strength and wisdom to cut your taxes in half, increase your military power, for free, to the highest level in the World, have your Car, Steel, Aluminum, Lumber, Energy, and all other businesses, QUADRUPLE in size, WITH ZERO TARIFFS OR TAXES, if Canada becomes the cherished 51st. State of the United States of America."
Trump went on in his post to repeat his argument that Canada joining the U.S. would be advantageous to the country, along with the false claim that the United States subsidizes Canada with "hundreds of billions of dollars a year." ...
Polls are closing and results are rolling in:
Canada Votes
2025
Liberals are leading by 120K votes, but it's early.
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Didn't take long.
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GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:32 pmDidn't take long.
https://bsky.app/profile/politico.com/p ... wagvw2222e

Canada has a Carney.
White House has a circus.
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Great (crude) minds . . .
"Carney to return as prime minister after reviving party from rock-bottom polling numbers"Vrede too wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:53 pm
Conservatives were expected to win this election, until PINO was such an asshole to Canada. Now, Conservatives are desperate to limit the damage.
Even though it's PINO I'm still kind of embarrassed for America.
Polls are closing and results are rolling in:
Canada Votes
2025
Liberals are leading by 120K votes, but it's early.
Liberals are leading by 145K votes, 1.1%, but they're still 10 seats short of a majority with only presumably Con NW BC yet to report.
I don't understand how CBC projects a winner. Is it assumed that the Bloc Québécois and/or the NDP would join a coalition only with the Liberals if the Liberals don't reach an outright majority?
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172 seats for a majority
19M votes counted
Liberals are just shy at a likely 168, +417K, +2.1% (43.5%).
Conservatives have a likely 144, giving the Liberals the plurality.
EITHER the Bloc Québécois (likely 23) or the NDP (likely 5) give the Liberals a governing majority.
BOTH the Bloc Québécois and the NDP give the Conservatives a governing majority, unlikely.
Heckuva job, Trumpie, and your last minute endorsement of the NDP was transparent and stupid.

19M votes counted
Liberals are just shy at a likely 168, +417K, +2.1% (43.5%).
Conservatives have a likely 144, giving the Liberals the plurality.
EITHER the Bloc Québécois (likely 23) or the NDP (likely 5) give the Liberals a governing majority.
BOTH the Bloc Québécois and the NDP give the Conservatives a governing majority, unlikely.
Heckuva job, Trumpie, and your last minute endorsement of the NDP was transparent and stupid.
Mark Carney Repeatedly Attacks Donald Trump in Victory Speech
... Why It Matters
The Liberal Party's win marks a stunning turnaround in their fortunes, fueled by Trump's annexation threats and trade war.
The party had appeared to be heading for a crushing defeat until Trump attacked Canada's economy and threatened its sovereignty, suggesting it should become the 51st U.S. state.
Trump's actions angered Canadians and stoked a surge in nationalism, helping the Liberals to flip the narrative and win a fourth straight term in power.
What To Know
... "We are once again at one of those hinge moments of history," he said. "Our old relationship with the United States, a relationship based on steadily increasing integration, is over.
"The system of open global trade anchored by the United States, a system that Canada has relied on since the Second World War, a system that, while not perfect, has helped deliver prosperity for a country for decades. Is over. These are tragedies, but it's also our new reality."
He added: "We are over the shock of the American betrayal, but we should never forget the lessons."
Carney said that when he sits down with Trump it will be to discuss the "future economic and security relationship between two sovereign nations, and it will be with our full knowledge that we have many, many other options than the United States to build prosperity for all Canadians." ...


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The Liberals won a plurality, 3 seats and 6.3% short of a majority.
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/electio ... 5/results/
Are you regretting missing the parties? Looks like the Liberals won Kelowna and Vancouver, and the NDP won Courtenay—Alberni on Vancouver Island .
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I probably wasn't clear on my comment on pluralities. Of course pluralities matter in systems where, for whatever reason, candidates can win without majority. I was speaking of the perception of Americans having elected Trump - the technicality of an electoral win and plurality loss is likely lost on them - and we collectively get blamed for enough of us voting for a psychopath to get him elected.
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O Really wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:58 pmI probably wasn't clear on my comment on pluralities. Of course pluralities matter in systems where, for whatever reason, candidates can win without majority. I was speaking of the perception of Americans having elected Trump - the technicality of an electoral win and plurality loss is likely lost on them - and we collectively get blamed for enough of us voting for a psychopath to get him elected.

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If I was Canadian I'd be happiest voting for the New Democratic Party. Depending on my district history and the polls I might sometimes vote for the Liberals. By taking Nunavut the NDP won the second or even the first largest landmass.
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/electio ... results/#/
It lost its official party status in the House of Commons, whatever that means.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/electio ... results/#/
In 2025 the NDP won 7 seats, down from 25 in 2021NDP Lori Idlout* 2,945 37.4%
LIB Kilikvak Kabloona 2,868 36.5%
CON James T. Arreak 2,055 26.1%
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Everyone Is Absolutely Losing It Over This Canadian Newspaper Mocking Donald Trump
Ohhhh, Canada.
... They're hanging their own flags.
... A couple of months ago, a French Canadian newspaper went viral for this cover:
For those wondering, it translates to: "Trump pushes his way closer to recession."
... And now, we have a new viral Canadian headline.
In case you're unaware, Trump has nicknamed this next chapter as the new "Golden Age of America."
Well, the Toronto Star has renamed it to something else:

Lady O?... That headline has over a million views, and the Canadians in the replies are in full agreement with the sentiment.
... And the author of the article chimed in with his own: "hey that's me."

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PINO is:April was the most intense month yet for Canadians' US-travel boycott
Canadian residents returning from the US, either by car or by plane, was down more in April than any other month this year, according to data released Monday by the Canadian government.
Together the car and plane returns marked the sharpest year-over-year declines since Canadians started boycotting US travel earlier this year, citing President Donald Trump's tariffs on Canadian goods and comments on making Canada the 51st US state.
Over 1.2 million Canadian residents returned to the country from the US by car in April, compared to more than 1.9 million in the same month last year, marking a steep decline of about 35%, according to Statistics Canada.
It was the fourth consecutive month of year-over-year declines for returns by car, which is the way most Canadian visitors travel to the US, according to Statistics Canada.
Canadian residents returning by air from the US was also down last month at 582,700, nearly 20% lower than the same month last year, despite an increase in Canadian resident returns from overseas, the data showed.
... On earnings calls late last month companies such as Hilton, Caesars Entertainment, and Booking Holdings reported slowdowns in travel from Canada to the US. Some firms have said Canadians are instead visiting Mexico, the Caribbean, and destinations in Europe.
Pearl Whamond, a Canadian who lives in Montreal, previously told Business Insider she was avoiding travel to the US despite living near the border and previously making frequent visits by car and plane.
"I wouldn't go over the border these days, and I'm trying to avoid buying American products," she said.
Canadians have also been boycotting American-made products and engaging in a Buy Canada movement in response to Trump's policies.
A bad neighbor;
Bad for business;
Bad at foreign relations.
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Prime Minister Carney announced his newly appointed cabinet and set of "secretaries of state" for his administration. There are some notable differences in those and the US selections, starting with having nobody appointed to an office for the purpose of destroying it. Next most notable is that about half the members were retained from Trudeau's administration. Is that even imaginable in the US? Also interesting is the areas of responsibility given to the ministers and secretaries. (highlights mine) I would soooo vote for CA, OR and WA to be Canada's 11, 12, 13 province.
Cabinet:
Shafqat Ali – President of the Treasury Board
Rebecca Alty – Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations I don't even know if the US has "Indian Affairs" anymore.
Anita Anand – Minister of Foreign Affairs
Gary Anandasangaree – Minister of Public Safety
Rebecca Chartrand – Minister of Northern and Arctic Affairs and Minister responsible for the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency
François-Philippe Champagne – Minister of Finance and National Revenue
Julie Dabrusin – Minister of Environment and Climate Change We have Deniers in Chief
Sean Fraser – Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada and Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Chrystia Freeland – Minister of Transport and Internal Trade
Steven Guilbeault – Minister of Canadian Identity and Culture and Minister responsible for Official Languages We have Trump trying to make everyone speak English
Mandy Gull-Masty – Minister of Indigenous Services
Patty Hajdu – Minister of Jobs and Families and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario We have repugs doing their best to cut healthcare and unemployment benefits
Tim Hodgson – Minister of Energy and Natural Resources We have that, but they're yelling "drill baby drill" and selling off public land
Mélanie Joly – Minister of Industry and Minister responsible for Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions
Dominic LeBlanc – President of the King’s Privy Council for Canada and Minister responsible for Canada-U.S. Trade, Intergovernmental Affairs and One Canadian Economy
Joël Lightbound – Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement
Heath MacDonald – Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Steven MacKinnon – Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
David J. McGuinty – Minister of National Defence
Jill McKnight – Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence
Lena Metlege Diab – Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
We have ICE Barbie
Eleanor Olszewski – Minister of Emergency Management and Community Resilience and Minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada
Gregor Robertson – Minister of Housing and Infrastructure and Minister responsible for Pacific Economic Development Canada
Maninder Sidhu – Minister of International Trade
Evan Solomon – Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario
Joanne Thompson – Minister of Fisheries
Rechie Valdez – Minister of Women and Gender Equality and Secretary of State (Small Business and Tourism) We have the zealots so anti "DEI" that they quit buying Dale Earnhardt Incorporated merchandise
Secretaries of State:
Buckley Belanger – Secretary of State (Rural Development)
Stephen Fuhr – Secretary of State (Defence Procurement)
Anna Gainey – Secretary of State (Children and Youth) We have people wanting to force children to be born and then starving them
Wayne Long – Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)
Stephanie McLean – Secretary of State (Seniors) We have constant bills and threats to cut/eliminate/privatize Social Security, Medicare, and senior services
Nathalie Provost – Secretary of State (Nature) We have de-funding parks, eliminating the endangered species protection, logging ancient forests, fracking, open pit mining
Ruby Sahota – Secretary of State (Combatting Crime) We have known convicts in high office and give pardons to insurrectionists
Randeep Sarai – Secretary of State (International Development)
Adam van Koeverden – Secretary of State (Sport)
John Zerucelli – Secretary of State (Labour)
Cabinet:
Shafqat Ali – President of the Treasury Board
Rebecca Alty – Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations I don't even know if the US has "Indian Affairs" anymore.
Anita Anand – Minister of Foreign Affairs
Gary Anandasangaree – Minister of Public Safety
Rebecca Chartrand – Minister of Northern and Arctic Affairs and Minister responsible for the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency
François-Philippe Champagne – Minister of Finance and National Revenue
Julie Dabrusin – Minister of Environment and Climate Change We have Deniers in Chief
Sean Fraser – Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada and Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Chrystia Freeland – Minister of Transport and Internal Trade
Steven Guilbeault – Minister of Canadian Identity and Culture and Minister responsible for Official Languages We have Trump trying to make everyone speak English
Mandy Gull-Masty – Minister of Indigenous Services
Patty Hajdu – Minister of Jobs and Families and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario We have repugs doing their best to cut healthcare and unemployment benefits
Tim Hodgson – Minister of Energy and Natural Resources We have that, but they're yelling "drill baby drill" and selling off public land
Mélanie Joly – Minister of Industry and Minister responsible for Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions
Dominic LeBlanc – President of the King’s Privy Council for Canada and Minister responsible for Canada-U.S. Trade, Intergovernmental Affairs and One Canadian Economy
Joël Lightbound – Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement
Heath MacDonald – Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Steven MacKinnon – Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
David J. McGuinty – Minister of National Defence
Jill McKnight – Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence
Lena Metlege Diab – Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
We have ICE Barbie
Eleanor Olszewski – Minister of Emergency Management and Community Resilience and Minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada
Gregor Robertson – Minister of Housing and Infrastructure and Minister responsible for Pacific Economic Development Canada
Maninder Sidhu – Minister of International Trade
Evan Solomon – Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario
Joanne Thompson – Minister of Fisheries
Rechie Valdez – Minister of Women and Gender Equality and Secretary of State (Small Business and Tourism) We have the zealots so anti "DEI" that they quit buying Dale Earnhardt Incorporated merchandise
Secretaries of State:
Buckley Belanger – Secretary of State (Rural Development)
Stephen Fuhr – Secretary of State (Defence Procurement)
Anna Gainey – Secretary of State (Children and Youth) We have people wanting to force children to be born and then starving them
Wayne Long – Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)
Stephanie McLean – Secretary of State (Seniors) We have constant bills and threats to cut/eliminate/privatize Social Security, Medicare, and senior services
Nathalie Provost – Secretary of State (Nature) We have de-funding parks, eliminating the endangered species protection, logging ancient forests, fracking, open pit mining
Ruby Sahota – Secretary of State (Combatting Crime) We have known convicts in high office and give pardons to insurrectionists
Randeep Sarai – Secretary of State (International Development)
Adam van Koeverden – Secretary of State (Sport)
John Zerucelli – Secretary of State (Labour)
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Idk that the Orange King has any backing other than admin* sycophants and Faux Noise talking heads.
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