Fascism Is here

[O Really]

No evidence of that whatsoever. But even if she were, that's not illegal, nor was she doing anything justifying deadly force.

Murdering imaginary "professional protester" soccer moms in the street makes sense to a fascist.

So many "even if's" there. Even if she were a "professional protestor" on duty as a protestor, and even if she ignored the jackboot's orders and even if she pulled out to leave... none of that justifies lethal force even by the ICE handbook.

[supesalemgr2]

The lady was a professional protester.

No evidence of that whatsoever. But even if she were, that's not illegal, nor was she doing anything justifying deadly force.

I did not state it was illegal. The point is she was not the innocent soccer mom Vrede insinuated.

[O Really]

The lady was a professional protester.

No evidence of that whatsoever. But even if she were, that's not illegal, nor was she doing anything justifying deadly force.

I did not state it was illegal. The point is she was not the innocent soccer mom Vrede insinuated.

So do you happen to have any verified details to go with the insinuation?

[O Really]

As far as I can find, the origin was from Trump on social media referring to her as a "professional agitator." Obviously Trump had never heard of her before she was murdered, nor is it likely he got any detailed background. But if there is any evidence of "professional agitation" it's not readily available in any of her known statements, writings, or actions.

[GoCubsGo]

As far as I can find, the origin was from Trump on social media referring to her as a "professional agitator." Obviously Trump had never heard of her before she was murdered, nor is it likely he got any detailed background. But if there is any evidence of "professional agitation" it's not readily available in any of her known statements, writings, or actions.

[Vrede too]

Umm, a White 37 year old mother of 3 driving a Honda Pilot pretty much defines a soccer mom. Any insinuation beyond that is in Dementia Soup's imagination. My description certainly has more support than the "professional protester" label SoupySales has dodged multiple attempt to get him to back up, especially his insinuation that such a designation deserves summary execution.

Here's some credible info about slain Renee Good from Maria Villarroel, "News Reporter for The Mirror US, The Daily Express US, and The Irish Star":

Renee Good's Christian missions in Northern Ireland revealed days after being shot by ICE agent
Renee Good, 37, has been described as "caring" in the days after she was fatally shot by an ICE agent in Minneapolis as new details about her life have come to light

* Youth Christian missionary work
* “one of the kindest people I’ve ever known. She was extremely compassionate. She’s taken care of people all her life. She was loving, forgiving, and affectionate. She was an amazing human being.”
* nurturing, gentle, and committed to community service
* involved in her community
* her commitment and care to working with children during the missions as well as her involvement in summer Bible study programs at Ballysally Presbyterian Church and First Saintfield Presbyterian Church.
* gentle-natured and warm,” Reverend James Hyndman, minister at First Saintfield, said. “A loving type of person.”
* award-winning poet and a hobby guitarist

Lots more info, with bunches of citations, including a step-by-step description of the tragedy at:

Killing of Renee Good

[GoCubsGo]

And it's not even a coverup, they're just throwing it in America's face.

[supesalemgr2]

The lady was a professional protester.

No evidence of that whatsoever. But even if she were, that's not illegal, nor was she doing anything justifying deadly force.

I did not state it was illegal. The point is she was not the innocent soccer mom Vrede insinuated.

So do you happen to have any verified details to go with the insinuation?

https://nypost.com/2026/01/08/us-news/r ... -shooting/

[Vrede too]

And it's not even a coverup, they're just throwing it in America's face.

https://x.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/2010775970807206253

Plus, the ICE SUV that had gotten stuck in the snow was driven away and multiple ICE witnesses AND the shooter all rapidly left the scene.

[O Really]

The lady was a professional protester.

No evidence of that whatsoever. But even if she were, that's not illegal, nor was she doing anything justifying deadly force.

I did not state it was illegal. The point is she was not the innocent soccer mom Vrede insinuated.

So do you happen to have any verified details to go with the insinuation?

https://nypost.com/2026/01/08/us-news/r ... -shooting/

Well, I'm sure everything the NY Post says is correct, but if that's the worst they have she sounds like a terrorist fershure. Except they missed that she sold Girl Scout cookies at the office to boost her kids' sales and at least once parked ILLEGALLY while dropping a kid off at church in the rain.
Evil person. Evil.

[Vrede too]

https://nypost.com/2026/01/08/us-news/r ... -shooting/

Well, I'm sure everything the NY Post says is correct, but if that's the worst they have she sounds like a terrorist fershure. Except they missed that she sold Girl Scout cookies at the office to boost her kids' sales and at least once parked ILLEGALLY while dropping a kid off at church in the rain.
Evil person. Evil.

It's funny what SoupySales swallows.
Rupert Murdoch's NY Post.
The article is full of transparently inflammatory rhetoric. It tries to portray her group as incorrigible radicals rather than what they are, one that attracts middle class elementary school mothers.
The article is full of irrelevant guilt by association, even with a supposed murderer who fled to Cuba.
The article flat out lies about the tragedy, saying that Good "sped" at the jackboots when we've all seen that no such thing occurred.
The article doesn't ever mention that she had been trained in NONVIOLENT action, the line between legal and illegal, her rights and deescalation. I know because I've been a longtime trainer in similar activities. "I'm not mad at you," were her last words.
The article implies that she was disrupting ICE when she was really just observing on this day. The incompetents had gotten their own SUV stuck in a ridiculously shallow amount of snow.
There is zero indication that she was a "professional". In fact, it's made clear that Renee Good was a volunteer. So, SoupySales busted himself lying or spreading a lie. Good one . True to form he failed to step up and admit this, leaving it to us to call him out on the obvious.

[O Really]

If I ever used the NY Post as documentation for anything I said to Supes, he would have trashed me.

[O Really]

Look up "yellow journalism" and NY Post is a modern example.

[Vrede too]

If I ever used the NY Post as documentation for anything I said to Supes, he would have trashed me.

Why? I suspect it's his go-to online source.

[.Oomba.]

Look up "yellow journalism" and NY Post is a modern example.

Explain.

[O Really]

Look up "yellow journalism" and NY Post is a modern example.

Explain.

Hi Oomba - glad you're here.

Yellow journalism is a sensationalist, exaggerated, and often misleading style of news reporting, prominent in the late 19th-century circulation wars between Joseph Pulitzer's New York World and William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal, using catchy headlines and dramatic stories (like the "Yellow Kid" comic) to sell papers, notably fueling public support for the Spanish-American War through unverified claims, like blaming Spain for the USS Maine explosion.
Key Characteristics & Techniques
Sensationalism: Focus on crime, scandal, lurid details, and emotional appeals rather than factual reporting.
Eye-Catching Headlines: Bold, often exaggerated headlines designed to grab attention.
Exaggeration & Fiction: Mixing facts with fiction, tall tales, and outright lies.
Lavish Illustrations: Heavy use of pictures, comics, and drawings to entice readers.
Crusades: Sensational crusades against corruption or for causes (like Cuban independence) to boost circulation.

[supesalemgr2]

Thank you guys for all the attention.

[neoplacebo]

You really don't see any difference in "desire controlled borders" and the unchecked and illegal conduct of the current ICE?

MAGAts only care when Brown people do "illegal".

True that. But the ironic part is that before 9/11 borders were much more "open" than any time since. When I was working for La Raza, the crossings in South Texas did not require a passport (either way) and were pretty much wave 'n go with a drivers license. There was a customs stop about 50 miles in, but still no big deal. They did make an effort to stop suspicious looking drug mules, but their biggest bust at the time was sheer luck. Camper was stopped, inspected, and cleared. As the driver was backing to turn, he hit a pole and a bunch of bags came out the side. But crossings at non official places weren't controversial, either, pretty much all along the Big Bend. Canada the same way. No passport required.

Things everywhere changed after 9/11. Can't have those Meskins coming into the country and flying planes into our building. Oh wait. Can't have those Arabs sneaking in like wetbacks to blow up our buildings. Oh wait.

Anyway, 25 years after 9/11, people don't know the difference in ILLEGAL and asylum applicants, have no idea that most ILLEGALS don't get in by way of sneaking across the Mexican border. Have no idea what the actual current law is, have no idea how many people were deported during the "open borders" of Obama and Biden, have not a clue as to what actual rights immigrants (ILLEGAL or not) have or how those rights are violated every day now. But sure, let's go beat up on some Brown people. That'll fix it.

You should go on tv and make that speech. And I'm referring supes to the last paragraph.....because of his post about "enforcing existing law." That very statement proves he does not know what the existing law is. But he doesn't listen to me.

Please explain to me why ICE is pursuing illegal immigrants in your view?

The only "illegal immigrants" that exist are the ones who've entered the country and NOT APPLIED FOR ASYLUM. What ICE is actually doing is basically indiscriminate detentions of people based solely on what they look like or how they speak or what tattoos they have. Hell,, they've even gone into immigration court proceedings and arresting people who are appearing for a hearing as they've been told to do. Another case of that very thing happened just the other day. trump and his sickophants kept saying they'd go after "the worst of the worst" but that is not what is happening. Bottom line: they are lying about what they're doing and breaking the law (due process) at the same time.

[GoCubsGo]

Hey Supes,
Can you tell me why the wingnuts and sickophants are not concerned with the Jackboots absolutely stomping all over the Constitution?

[Whack9]

Been seeing videos of ICE saying to people "have you not learned from what just happened?"