How the GOP Has Changed

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He does give a lot of stuff a very broad and benign interpretation, I think. Bit of an exaggeration, but he's the sort that would read about a guy shooting a kid who let his dog poop in the yard and defend it with "well, a man has a right to defend himself against trespassers defacing his property, doesn't he"? The Kool-Aid is definitely spiked.
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GoCubsGo wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 10:33 am
O Really wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 10:23 am You have to wonder how somebody like Supes for example, who was probably a real Republican back in the day, has been affected by transmogrification of what used to be a conservative wing of politics. That is, has he himself gone from Rockefeller and Reagan to rabid, or is he just going along with the crazies because they're not Democrats.
He doesn't seem to be rabid, but he certainly is tolerant.

There's nothing resembling outrage.
No question I cherish being labeled a "Reagan republican". I was reluctant to initially back Trump because he is not true conservative. He has earned the "populist" moniker in his terms.
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supesalemgr2 wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 11:08 am
GoCubsGo wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 10:33 am
O Really wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 10:23 am You have to wonder how somebody like Supes for example, who was probably a real Republican back in the day, has been affected by transmogrification of what used to be a conservative wing of politics. That is, has he himself gone from Rockefeller and Reagan to rabid, or is he just going along with the crazies because they're not Democrats.
He doesn't seem to be rabid, but he certainly is tolerant.

There's nothing resembling outrage.
No question I cherish being labeled a "Reagan republican". I was reluctant to initially back Trump because he is not true conservative. He has earned the "populist" moniker in his terms.
Reagan signed a 25-year extension of the Voting Rights Act in 1982, signed the legislation in 1983 creating a federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King Jr., appointed Sandra Day O'Connor in 1981 as the first female U.S. Supreme Court justice. Trump has fought against all aspect of the VRA, and has made continuous and vigorous efforts to suppress voting.

Reagan viewed immigration as a vital, renewing force for American greatness, highlighted by his signing of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which provided a legal path to residency (amnesty) for roughly 3 million undocumented immigrants who had lived in the U.S. since before January 1, 1982, after paying fines and back taxes. Trump has held "mass deportation" as one of the cornerstones of his efforts, and including trying to end DACA and criminally prosecuting immigrants for paperwork issues.

Ronald Reagan popularized the "Eleventh Commandment"—"Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican". Trump, well, you know.

That's a looooong leap from Reagan Republican to anybody who would support Tru*p.
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O Really wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 11:47 am
supesalemgr2 wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 11:08 am
GoCubsGo wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 10:33 am
O Really wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 10:23 am You have to wonder how somebody like Supes for example, who was probably a real Republican back in the day, has been affected by transmogrification of what used to be a conservative wing of politics. That is, has he himself gone from Rockefeller and Reagan to rabid, or is he just going along with the crazies because they're not Democrats.
He doesn't seem to be rabid, but he certainly is tolerant.

There's nothing resembling outrage.
No question I cherish being labeled a "Reagan republican". I was reluctant to initially back Trump because he is not true conservative. He has earned the "populist" moniker in his terms.
Reagan signed a 25-year extension of the Voting Rights Act in 1982, signed the legislation in 1983 creating a federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King Jr., appointed Sandra Day O'Connor in 1981 as the first female U.S. Supreme Court justice. Trump has fought against all aspect of the VRA, and has made continuous and vigorous efforts to suppress voting.

Reagan viewed immigration as a vital, renewing force for American greatness, highlighted by his signing of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which provided a legal path to residency (amnesty) for roughly 3 million undocumented immigrants who had lived in the U.S. since before January 1, 1982, after paying fines and back taxes. Trump has held "mass deportation" as one of the cornerstones of his efforts, and including trying to end DACA and criminally prosecuting immigrants for paperwork issues.

Ronald Reagan popularized the "Eleventh Commandment"—"Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican". Trump, well, you know.

That's a looooong leap from Reagan Republican to anybody who would support Tru*p.
No question Trump will never fit in any existing mold for POTUS.
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supesalemgr2 wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2026 12:29 pm

No question Trump will never fit in any existing mold for POTUS.
To quote Reagan, "there you go again..." Rounding off the rough edges and going along as if things are normal.
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Understatement.
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Vrede too wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 11:20 am
GoCubsGo wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 8:32 amGood start.

What else?

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:problem: Anybody heard MAGA or the RepuQs screeching about the deficit lately?
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They won't be doing that until next year, and not even then if they manage to steal or foul up enough congressional elections.
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neoplacebo wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 9:26 amThey won't be doing that until next year, and not even then if they manage to steal or foul up enough congressional elections.
Great minds, hominy. I considered posting that RepuQs will suddenly start caring about the deficit again in 2029.
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Vrede too wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 10:16 am
neoplacebo wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 9:26 amThey won't be doing that until next year, and not even then if they manage to steal or foul up enough congressional elections.
Great minds, hominy. I considered posting that RepuQs will suddenly start caring about the deficit again in 2029.
:thumbup: Yeah, but I was thinking they'll start doing it in 27, especially if they lose the Senate, too. I think trump has added to it considerably just so far and he's not even halfway done. And then if they ever get power back again, they will immediately push for a tax cut. Trickle down economics only means somebody else will have to deal with the mess others created. At least that's how it's been the past forty five years or so.