He's looking for a credible source since we so often make fun of the sources he does link.billy.pilgrim wrote:seems like you would offer a link[color=#BF0000]Vrede too[/color] wrote:Wneglia wrote:Actually Michelle stole them from an Alinsky speech before Melania stole them from her.Vrede too wrote:
Thieves and amateurs.
Evidence? Even if true, not as bizarre as Melania stealing them from either Alinsky or Michelle.
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Just Words
Your point? He's clearly mocking the notion of "Just Words".
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Agreed. Somebody's head should have rolled to protect the virtue of sweet Lady Melania. There are, I think, only about three times you could use someone else's words. One, if they are so well known that everybody knows you're quoting. Say "Ask not what your country..." and credit to JFK is implied. Movie quotes are also in that category. Second, if you give credit, as in, "as Tricky Dick used to say, 'I am not a crook."" Or, finally, when the thought expressed is widely and commonly used and no actual source is known, "time heals a broken heart." The Trumpeteers tried to make a case for #3, but the specifics of those lines was too close. Sure Melania's parents could (and maybe did) teach her to work hard and be true to her word. And she could (and probably does) think children should be limited only by their own dreams or whatever, but overall, when you look at what was said by both in its context, there's no college professor in the world that would let you get away with that close.Vrede too wrote:I think Trump and his team are throwing Melania under the bus in order to avoid admitting how unethical, incompetent and self-destructive the people Trump hires are. I feel sorry for her, she apparently was never thrilled with the run for POTUS and never wanted the FLOTUS nominee limelight. If Trump was a real man and decent husband, he would have already fired a speechwriter even if Melania did do the plagiarizing herself.
Update: Plagiarism-checking site says chances of Melania's content being "accidental" is less than 1 in a trillion. "Nevertheless, Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort proposed that the similarities between the speeches are indeed that one-in-1-trillion chance. "These are common words," he argued"


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Slovenian Rhapsody.GoCubsGo wrote:Then Rickrolling another part of her speech.....
Melania Trump's speech plagiarizes parts of Michelle Obama's http://www.cnn.com//2016/07/19/politics ... index.html
Not to mention the Orange One's entrance to a Freddie Mercury soundtrack
http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/donald-t ... nsues.html
Pleasing the Heck out of the RNC platform people.......
This is gonna be a good week :thumbsup:
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North Carolina has staged themselves strategically next to the bathroom so they can check everyone's genitalia before they, you know . . . cast their ballots shall we say.
Even for Colbert that was pretty ballsy.
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Republican convention has "White Elevators"
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May be - that would make it even funnier (and sadder). My link said they were keyed to the color-coded (red, white, blue) sections in the convention center. But so typically Republican for the "White" section to be the best.Vrede too wrote:White elevators . . . to the luxury suites, according to the Colbert video.![]()

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Regardless who spoke the words first; they're still the same as they were when they were first spoken: Fluff; nothing but bullshit fluff, as evidenced by the current administration.Wneglia wrote:Actually Michelle stole them from an Alinsky speech before Melania stole them from her.Vrede too wrote:
Thieves and amateurs.
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Just Words
"My husband's going to do this, my husband's going to do that, my husband will be great at this, etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah"
Lipstick on a pig comes to mind . . . spoken by a couple of old sows.
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Republicans formally nominate Trump for U.S. presidency
July 19, 2016 - The day that the GOP officially died. RIP.
July 19, 2016 - The day that the GOP officially died. RIP.
Tomorrow, Wednesday.Vrede too wrote:FYI, one of the plans for the RNC:
Thousands of Americans will march through Cleveland with sections of a wall made of fabric and stenciled and painted by artists (and kids!) to look like a real wall before attaching it to the 15,000 foot-long security fence that Cleveland is building to protect Trump from the voice of the people, a peaceful blockade of Trump’s convention.
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But don't worry; It won't just be Trump running the country. He'll be backed by a party that has officially decided that Donald Trump is the best person to run the country.Vrede too wrote:Republicans formally nominate Trump for U.S. presidency
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We'll see how much backing he really gets. It's hard to tell who are "uniting" for the good of the party and who are going through the motions.
To be fair, I'd also be worried, though not as much, if you'd posted: It won't just be Hillary running the country. She'll be backed by a party that has officially decided that Hillary is the best person to run the country.
To be fair, I'd also be worried, though not as much, if you'd posted: It won't just be Hillary running the country. She'll be backed by a party that has officially decided that Hillary is the best person to run the country.
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Ladies and gents, Donald Trump's campaign spokeswoman actually said this out loud
What They're Saying On Michelle's Twitter-Feed (Hilarious)-Updated-New Tweets






What They're Saying On Michelle's Twitter-Feed (Hilarious)-Updated-New Tweets
“If Michelle Obama begins her speech next week with "Ever since my childhood in Slovenia..." it would be the greatest thing ever...”
“I mean she could've started with copying Michelle Obama by marrying a decent human being with a brain and heart, but okay.”
“What Michelle Obama did to Melania was very unfair! She used ALL THE BEST WORDS! Melania had no other choice but use same words. Believe me!”
Maybe #Melania is the reason why #Trump thinks immigrants steal.
Michelle Obama’s Twitter Page:Nothing any political comedian can do will ever be as funny as Melania Trump reading a Michelle Obama speech to eager Republicans.
It's not just that they plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech; they plagiarized the section on honesty, character, and integrity.

Congratulations To @MichelleObama on her wonderful opening speech at the GOP Convention last evening #inspired
Donald Trump's spokeswoman says Melania Trump "wanted to communicate to Americans in phrases they have heard before"
This is officially the weirdest political election I've ever seen in my life.
I knew something was up with #MelaniaTrump's speech when she started talking about growing up in Chicago.


"A campaign that nurtures white grievance," says @brianbeutler, "trying to profit off the work of a black woman."

Trump steals speeches from Michelle Obama. Hillary steals ideas from Bernie Sanders. Nothing to see here.

15,000 journalists are at the GOP convention. All got scooped by a laid-off TV journalist watching from Starbucks.


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Vrede too wrote:He's looking for a credible source since we so often make fun of the sources he does link.billy.pilgrim wrote:seems like you would offer a link[color=#BF0000]Vrede too[/color] wrote:Wneglia wrote:Actually Michelle stole them from an Alinsky speech before Melania stole them from her.Vrede too wrote:Thieves and amateurs.
Evidence? Even if true, not as bizarre as Melania stealing them from either Alinsky or Michelle.
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Just Words
Your point? He's clearly mocking the notion of "Just Words".
FLOTUS Glower
After Melania Trump was accused of plagiarizing Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech at the 2016 RNC, several sites claimed the FLOTUS herself has plagiarized Saul Alinsky.
Mostly False
WHAT'S TRUE: A portion of a single sentence from Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech bore resemblance to a single line from Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals."
WHAT'S FALSE: Substantial portions of Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech echoed concepts and phrasing taken from "Rules for Radicals."












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As well as being an architect, Melania also has a side job piloting the Millennium Falcon, what a great lady!

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We (the citizens) get pretty much the candidates we deserve. First, we only get to choose from those who run. And if we started with a blank page entitled "Best Person(s) to Run the Country, none of the names of the 17 clown car members, nor Bernie nor Hillary would likely be on it. But it's very likely that whoever ended up on that list would not have any interest in running. We've created a process that makes it highly unlikely that the best people will ever run.Vrede too wrote:We'll see how much backing he really gets. It's hard to tell who are "uniting" for the good of the party and who are going through the motions.
To be fair, I'd also be worried, though not as much, if you'd posted: It won't just be Hillary running the country. She'll be backed by a party that has officially decided that Hillary is the best person to run the country.