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Vrede too wrote:True, and I'm not saying that discrepancies will change the electoral outcome - Trump's hurdle is too steep. However, polls can't account for dishonesty and even people lying to themselves. I'll try to remember to post the polls for FL, SC, NC and the US on Tuesday and we'll see how accurate they were on Wednesday.
Nate Silver/FiveThirtyEight:

Chance of winning:
Hillary Clinton 69.2%
Donald Trump 30.7%

Electoral votes
Hillary Clinton 299.1
Donald Trump 238.1
Evan McMullin 0.7
Gary Johnson 0.0

Chance of winning North Carolina’s 15 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton 53.6%
Donald Trump 46.4%

Projected vote share for Nov. 8
Hillary Clinton 48.3%
Donald Trump 47.8%
Gary Johnson 3.9%

Chance of winning Senate seat
Deborah Ross 26.3%
Richard Burr 73.7%
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Projected vote share for Nov. 8
Deborah Ross 46.8%
Sean Haugh (L) 4.2%
Richard Burr 49.0%

Chance of winning Florida’s 29 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton 53.6%
Donald Trump 46.4%

Projected vote share for Nov. 8
Hillary Clinton 48.2%
Donald Trump 47.7%
Gary Johnson 2.8%

Chance of winning South Carolina’s 9 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton 11.6%
Donald Trump 88.4%

Projected vote share for Nov. 8
Hillary Clinton 44.1%
Donald Trump 50.8%
Gary Johnson 3.6%

RealClearPolitics (just including the more recent polls):

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein
RCP Average - Clinton +3.2
Bloomberg - Clinton +3
IBD/TIPP Tracking - Trump +2
ABC/Wash Post Tracking - Clinton +4
FOX News - Clinton +4
Monmouth - Clinton +6
Rasmussen Reports - Clinton +2
CBS News - Clinton +4
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl - Clinton +4
NBC News/SM - Clinton +6

North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson
RCP Average - Trump +1.0
NY Times/Siena - Tie
Quinnipiac - Clinton +2
Gravis - Clinton +1

North Carolina Senate - Burr vs. Ross
RCP Average - Burr +2.0
NY Times/Siena - Burr +1
Quinnipiac - Tie
Gravis - Burr +1

North Carolina Governor - McCrory vs. Cooper
RCP Average - Cooper +2.2
NY Times/Siena - Cooper +1
Quinnipiac - Cooper +3

South Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein
Winthrop - Trump +4
Trafalgar Group (R) - Trump +15
Gravis - Trump +4
PPP (D) - Trump +2

Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein
RCP Average - Trump +0.2
Trafalgar Group (R) - Trump +4
Opinion Savvy - Clinton +2
Quinnipiac - Clinton +1
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Vrede too wrote:Chance of winning:
Hillary Clinton 69.2%
Donald Trump 30.7%
Whoever wins, what are the chances of a "big reveal" tomorrow night that Donald Trump is secretly a still-alive Andy Kaufman in his biggest prank yet?

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bannination wrote:I'm grabbing this forum by the pussy.
You did that 2 3/4 years ago.
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bannination wrote:I'm grabbing this forum by the pussy.
I thought he moved to Florida.

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rstrong wrote:
bannination wrote:I'm grabbing this forum by the pussy.
I thought he moved to Florida.
Nah, he has some Navy gig where they don't have internet.
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Vrede too wrote:
bannination wrote:I'm grabbing this forum by the pussy.
You did that 2 3/4 years ago.
OMG, we've been around at least 2 & 3/4 years now..... wow.....

Doesn't feel like it's been that long since I've grabbed a big mound of fur like that.

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Over 4 years. All our accounts were created in Sept. 2012.

I happen to like mountains, but wtf are "mountain values"? Are they supposed to be superior to foothills, piedmont, coastal, prairie, wetland, swamp, island, etc. values, does it matter if the mountains are forested, alpine or desert, and does pretentiously claiming that they are superior actually make them inferior?
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rstrong wrote:
bannination wrote:I'm grabbing this forum by the pussy.
I thought he moved to Florida.
Nah, he has some Navy gig where they don't have internet.

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Vrede too wrote:Over 4 years. All our accounts were created in Sept. 2012.

I happen to like mountains, but wtf are "mountain values"? Are they supposed to be superior to foothills, piedmont, coastal, prairie, wetland, swamp, island, etc. values, does it matter if the mountains are forested, alpine or desert, and does pretentiously claiming that they are superior actually make them inferior?
Because they never define mountain values I must conclude it's because they're actually too embarrassed to say what they really mean.

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Moonshine, poaching, incest, gouging tourists and meth?
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Vrede too wrote:Moonshine, poaching, incest, gouging tourists and meth?
Sounds accurate as long as that list is not all inclusive. I'm mean there's also a high concentration of homophobia, intolerance and racism. Plus all those "G" issues they keep talking about on TV. I guess mountain values are all of what you make it. The mountain values they elude to certainly aren't the mountain values I subscribe to.

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Those are southern "values". I was trying to ID our more uniquely "mountain values".
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Vrede too wrote:Those are southern "values". I was trying to ID our more uniquely "mountain values".
I didn't realize that mountain values were any different than southern values -- I guess they're doing a bad job distinguishing themselves!


I hence forth declare a new term -- standard human values. "Don't be a dick." Everyone should strive to meet those values. :mrgreen:

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Heretic.
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Taking a semi-serious thought on "mountain values" I'd say it's intended to mean the characteristics of those who migrated in originally. Those characteristics would include toughness, a sense of independence, self-reliance, and family-centered. All of which appears to have been the case. Unfortunately, if you look back at those people and their descendants, it's hard to avoid the other less-desirable values of a suspicion of strangers, triby-ness, racism, intolerance, and a disregard for societal laws other than their own. I would disagree that "mountain values" are the same as "southern values" although there is overlap. Natives of the Appalachian region from Georgia all the way to New York share more similarities with each other than with other regions. I think when the politicians use the term, though, they're just dog-whistling "us vs. them."

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Reminder: If you're in line when the polls close, they have to let you vote.

Wanna bet that Trumpsuckers declare this "election fraud" and try to stop it?

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rstrong wrote:Reminder: If you're in line when the polls close, they have to let you vote.

Wanna bet that Trumpsuckers declare this "election fraud" and try to stop it?
He already said that letting people already in line vote in Nevada was "leaving the polls open" so they could "cater to a certain voting population."
Left the stage as he entered it, insulting Hispanics (and the rest of us as well)

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Vrede too wrote:Moonshine, poaching, incest, gouging tourists and meth?
Not necessarily in that order.
People are crazy and times are strange. I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range.
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