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Boatrocker wrote:
Vrede too wrote:Moonshine, poaching, incest, gouging tourists and meth?
Not necessarily in that order.
... and sometimes all at once.

I thought it was at the discretion of the election chief, hence the Trump whining that O Really mentions, but rstrong is correct in most or all states including NC.

This is what happens if you're still in line to vote when the polls close
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I've never seen or heard of anywhere that didn't let everyone in line at closing time vote. But apparently it's become a bigger issue lately with the voter suppression efforts, curtailing polling places, shortening schedules, etc.

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I've always hated lines (and being on telephone hold) more than most. It's one reason that I always vote absentee. I'd be one of the voters to just leave.
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At my polling place, after showing your ID you're given a ~3x3 inch piece of white paper with nothing on it. This indicates you've checked in and are ready to vote. Upon voting you give this "ticket" to the poll worker who gets your booth ready.

Now, ok. I'm not all that concerned about voter fraud. But it seems like this whole system they have in place using this white square piece of paper as proof you've shown your ID makes the whole showing your ID thing completely moot.

I could literally roll up to my polling location and walk in with a piece of paper as "proof" I've been cleared to vote. In the chaos of my polling location it would be no problem to sneak in line behind the voting booths.
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JTA wrote:I could literally roll up to my polling location and walk in with a piece of paper as "proof" I've been cleared to vote. In the chaos of my polling location it would be no problem to sneak in line behind the voting booths.
Think of the opposite situation: Someone has been waiting in line for hours. They need to use the bathroom. On return, without that paper, they're told that it's too late to get in line. If they were in it, they should have stayed in it.

The former situation may happen, but the latter would be far more common.

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JTA wrote:At my polling place, after showing your ID you're given a ~3x3 inch piece of white paper ...
The Hispanics, Asians and blacks are given different colored papers so that they can be diverted to the "special" voting booths.
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2016 presidential election observations: Tons of people boasting about not voting, and how non-compliance is the best method for the individual to have an impact this election!
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They're idiots. Nonvoting can be chalked up to a bunch of reasons other than protest. That's why I would have protested by voting for Johnson if I could have risked it.
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Vrede too wrote:They're idiots. Nonvoting can be chalked up to a bunch of reasons other than protest. That's why I would have protested by voting for Johnson if I could have risked it.
Yeah that's who I voted for. Had I been an NC resident that wouldn't have been the case.

How were the lines in NC?
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Vrede too wrote:They're idiots. Nonvoting can be chalked up to a bunch of reasons other than protest. That's why I would have protested by voting for Johnson if I could have risked it.
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They knew the only way to bring fundamental change was to crash the system through NONCOMPLIANCE. Voting is COMPLIANCE. Period.
That link contains enough deluded bullshit for three Trump rallies and a Christian book store. And that's being unreasonably polite.

Non-voting isn't noncompliance. It's self-irrelevance. It does nothing whatsoever to "crash the system." The folks he imagines he's protesting against are probably the very people given more power by him and his friends not voting.

The "Icelandic Revolution" wasn't done through non-voting; It was done through voting. Kicking the old guard out. The pirate politics and direct democracy Pirate Party won 3 seats in Parliament, giving them a strong voice. And power, as they could be tie-breakers in any parliamentary votes.

And when the next leader wasn't entirely sincere - the Panama Papers leak exposed his offshore bank account - he was kicked out too. In the October 29 elections the Pirate Party won 10 seats in Parliament. That was done through people VOTING, not staying home and calling petulantly calling it "noncompliance."

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Vrede too wrote:They're idiots. Nonvoting can be chalked up to a bunch of reasons other than protest. That's why I would have protested by voting for Johnson if I could have risked it.
I voted for Hillary in '92, '96, primary of '08, and primary and general of 16. I guess you have to be persistent. Mine this year was a protest vote against stupidity.

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Vrede too wrote:They're idiots. Nonvoting can be chalked up to a bunch of reasons other than protest. That's why I would have protested by voting for Johnson if I could have risked it.

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JTA wrote:... How were the lines in NC?
I always vote absentee, but a coworker described very long lines in Fletcher, NC during early voting.
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rstrong wrote:Non-voting isn't noncompliance. It's self-irrelevance.
Granted, I'm not voting in today's election. Even learning my lesson in 2000. :oops:

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I rarely drink, gonna start as soon as I get off the computer this evening.
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I'll just go ahead and call it, congratulations President Clinton.

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So far, I'm proud of ya NC!

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Damn it NC, what the hell is wrong with you?!

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Waiting for a repeat of 2012:

Hey, I just beat you,
and this is crazy
You have my number
Call me maybe


I don't think Karl Rove will have an on-air melt-down over polling numbers this time 'round. That will have happened off-air early in the primaries.

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bannination wrote:I'll just go ahead and call it, congratulations President Clinton.
Regardless of who wins, I'm going to just go ahead and call it: "Goddammit, Florida!"

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