The Religion Thread

[Vrede too]

Fishing is more religion than religion is.

I would never consider indoctrinating my granddaughter in any subject and will leave that to her parents without interference. If I were near the southern border, though, I would not hesitate fo attend church with the migrant children and their families just as a show of support to them. To me, that's religion.

I've got a Latino church right outside of my back window. That's a great idea if I ever feel like attending any church.

[1 CAT FAN]

Be the bigger person, go to church with your sister tomorrow, if only for love of family.Take Patience along with you too. Afterward. have a good southern dinner together. Bet it will warm her heart to have you celebrate Easter with her.

I have in the past gone to church with her at her request. At present, I am in Kingsport TN, she is near Nashville, and the granddaughter is in Spartanburg SC so it is not feasible to do as you suggest. She knows my stance regarding religion and of course does not approve, but just as I consider her to be a hypocrite relative to her religious / political views, at the same time I do not wish to be a hypocrite by attending church and pretending to be someone I am not.

You don't have to change your views, just allow her to see that you respect hers and that you love her. Just a simple phone call would do wonders. Two of my grandchildren live in Grove City, Ohio. I don't get to see them as much, if it wasn't for cell phone Face Time.

[O Really]

It seems to me that being willing to give up what one would prefer to do in order to do what someone you care about wants to do could be a kind and caring, thoughtful thing. Both directions - any activity. So the sister should go fishing with neo, drink some beer, eat some barbeque, and keep quiet about politics.

[1 CAT FAN]

Happy Easter, O Really.

[O Really]

Happy Easter, O Really.

Thanks, CAT - You too.

[O Really]

It was really the resurrection that clenched it for me. Because, like [the apostle] Paul, I realized that if this can be falsified then the whole faith falls apart. So it was the cumulative case for the resurrection that I think was the lynchpin for me.

https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/fi ... nd-failed/

I invite you to read his book: The Case for Christ

https://www.amazon.com/Case-Christ-Jour ... 0310339308

I looked into the book. I wasn't expecting it to be 20 years old. Anyway, it appears to be a series of interviews with various biblical scholars. There was no original "investigation." Nor was there presentation of any evidence supporting the scholar's views. Assuming you read it in entirety, what did you find compelling?

[Vrede too]

Found at 1 FAT CAN's link:

TN Faith Leaders Sign Letter Urging Gov. to Reject Pro-Life Bill

Interesting.

[Vrede too]

Slave Bible From The 1800s Omitted Key Passages That Could Incite Rebellion

... "About 90 percent of the Old Testament is missing [and] 50 percent of the New Testament is missing," Schmidt says. "Put in another way, there are 1,189 chapters in a standard protestant Bible. This Bible contains only 232."

Schmidt says passages that could have prompted rebellion were removed, for example:

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28

And verses that reinforced the institution of slavery, including "the most famous pro-slavery verse that many pro-slavery people would have cited," says Schmidt, were kept.

"Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ." Ephesians 6:5

...

How Christian of them. Don't let my people go.

Happy Easter, y'all.

[bannination]

Happy Easter!

[Vrede too]

Happy Easter!

Let's party!

[1 CAT FAN]

Nor was there presentation of any evidence supporting the scholar's views. Assuming you read it in entirety, what did you find compelling?

Here was an atheist who set out to disprove the existence of GOD and became a believer in Christ. If you have a few minutes, allow Lee Strobell to summarize his book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikxb09pyZwM

[1 CAT FAN]

Found at 1 FAT CAN's link:

Ilhan Omar
‏Verified account @IlhanMN

Happy Passover to all who are celebrating!
2:16 PM - 19 Apr 2019

Of course, Ilhan Omar has NEVER expressed anti-Semitism. She merely disagrees with apartheid Isreal's GOVERNMENT policy and Americans' support for it.

You sure about that?

Rep. Ilhan Omar deletes the controversial tweets that drew charges of anti-Semitism

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 989404002/

That was a very gracious Tweet, maybe there's a chance she'll convert.

You're like an addict that will go to extreme measures, don't you ever take a day off from here to enjoy life. You should get away from social media every once in awhile.

I certainly enjoyed Easter Sunday, celebrating with my family.

[Vrede too]

Anti-LGBT politician resigns after being 'caught having sex with man in his office'
Wes Goodman resigns for 'inappropriate conduct'

An Ohio lawmaker who routinely touted his Christian faith and anti-LGBT views has resigned after being caught having sex with a man in his office.

Wes Goodman, who is the Republican state legislator for Ohio, is married to a woman who is assistant director of an annual anti-abortion rally known as March for Life.

The right-wing legislator, who pushed “family values”, was reportedly witnessed having sex with a man inside his office who was not employed by the legislator....

The 33-year-old, who has been branded the “conscience of the conservative movement”, resigned for “inappropriate conduct” shortly after the meeting took place.

Mr Goodman, whose Twitter biography describes him as “Christian. American. Conservative. Republican. Husband to @Beth1027”, has regularly claimed "natural marriage" occurs between a man and a woman.

"Healthy, vibrant, thriving, values-driven families are the source of Ohio's proud history and the key to Ohio's future greatness,” reads his campaign website which has now been taken offline.

“The ideals of a loving father and mother, a committed natural marriage, and a caring community are well worth pursuing and protecting."

Mr Goodman was elected to represent the 87th District, in north-central Ohio, just last year. Prior to that, he worked as an aide to US Representative Jim Jordan, a highly conservative, anti-LGBT Republican.

The Human Rights Campaign, the largest LGBT advocacy group in the US, named Mr Jordan in their Hall of Shame in 2014 for attempting to block marriage equality in the District of Columbia.

Mr Goodman, whose Twitter is now private and whose Facebook page has been taken offline, expressed his commitment to so-called family values in a statement back in 2013. “Faith, family, service, stewardship, strong education, and investment in our local communities are what Ohioans value. My wife Bethany and I value those same things and are ready to get to work to serve you," he said....

[neoplacebo]

I painted three chickens in multi color Easter egg motif. They look pretty good.

[1 CAT FAN]

I painted three chickens in multi color Easter egg motif. They look pretty good.

Did you call your sister?

[neoplacebo]

I painted three chickens in multi color Easter egg motif. They look pretty good.

Did you call your sister?

No; she didn't call me either. I usually only call on her birthday in June and at Christmas.

[Vrede too]

I painted three chickens in multi color Easter egg motif. They look pretty good.

I ate some mushrooms, didn't need paint for the eggs, chickens or rabbits.

[neoplacebo]

I painted three chickens in multi color Easter egg motif. They look pretty good.

I ate some mushrooms, didn't need paint for the eggs, chickens or rabbits.

Nobody heartily approves of that.

[O Really]

Nor was there presentation of any evidence supporting the scholar's views. Assuming you read it in entirety, what did you find compelling?

Here was an atheist who set out to disprove the existence of GOD and became a believer in Christ. If you have a few minutes, allow Lee Strobell to summarize his book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikxb09pyZwM

Well, 45 or so is a bit more than "a few minutes" but I caught most of it. He's an entertaining and motivating speaker, but turned over no new stones in his journey. F'rinstance, he says he had to accept the biblical writings as accurate historical documents. Historical, sure, but not necessarily accurate, complete or un-revised over the centuries. The book of Luke was apparently written more than 50 years after Jesus' death, based on a lot of oral history, and written in Greek. By the time the account of the resurrection was written, there likely weren't any actual witnesses still alive. So as one example, taking an account as indisputable fact based on documents written long after the event, by people who had no direct knowledge of the event and from a document sifted through at least two or more translations and interpretations isn't exactly hard core investigation. Anyway, it's nice he found his holy grail and seems able to make a comfortable living off it, but his "case" isn't any different from the stories of anyone else who, for whatever reason, chooses to believe.

BTW, where is it written that all references to God (by name or as a person) has to be in all caps? Random caps are so Trumpian.

[neoplacebo]

https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/504 ... an-atheist

And for a different view.......