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Nobody knows the trouble they've seen, but they just Need Somebody to Love.

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Vrede too wrote:
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I have decided to run for president and I will introduce myself as "Nobody." My campaign slogans will include "Nobody gives a shit" "Nobody can fix it" "Nobody cares about you" "Nobody knows what happened" and "Nobody but me." My running mate will be "Somebody" ...
Have you two sorted out who will lead the ticket then? The last thing we need is a repeat of the 2016 floor fight where both of your supporters were chanting and screaming, "Nobody is over Somebody," at each other.
I think we've worked it out; Nobody is the presidential candidate, since the Nobody agenda is non specific and all encompassing. Should Nobody die or be removed from office (Nobody expects neither of those events to occur) Somebody will then assume office and spend most of his time praising the accomplishments of Nobody. For example, in the remote event that Somebody becomes president, at his inaugural he will assert some or all of the following:
Nobody had a crowd MUCH larger than this.
Nobody accomplished more than Anybody in a shorter time period - ever
I call on all citizens to honor and revere and cherish the legacy of Nobody.
And now let us start getting things accomplished like Nobody's business.
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O Really wrote:
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Nobody knows the trouble they've seen, but they just Need Somebody to Love.
My favorite supporter, Grace Slick said it best - "When the truth is found to be lies........don't you want Somebody to love?

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You just barely beat me to it.
O Really wrote:
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Nobody knows the trouble they've seen, but they just Need Somebody to Love.
It's a recurrent and rather desperate campaign theme from perpetual candidate, Somebody.

Jefferson Airplane - Somebody To Love (Live at Woodstock Music & Art Fair, 1969)

Queen - Somebody To Love (Official Video)

Justin Bieber - Somebody To Love Remix ft. Usher (Official Music Video)
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In the remote chance I am assassinated or consumed in fiery plane crash, the entire nation will simultaneously break into the old spiritual "I Ain't Got Nobody"

:clap: Heh, strange that Vrede posts Grace singing that song just after I post about it. Great minds.......
An aside; tonight on ABC at 10 there is the first part of a documentary series about the year 1969; it's called "1969" Nobody recommends it.

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... An aside; tonight on ABC at 10 there is the first part of a documentary series about the year 1969; it's called "1969" Nobody recommends it.
Tonight 2200 ET: Moon Shot

April 30: The Girl in the Car
The story of Mary Jo Kopechne, who died when Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) drove off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island.
:roll:

Looks like 6 episodes or more. Also upcoming: "Manson murders ... and Woodstock as well as President Nixon's first year in office, John Lennon's bed-ins for peace (but not Abbey Road ?), FBI shootouts with black activists (and massacres?), and the Stonewall Uprising."
https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/1969/episodes/1307842/
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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:33 pm
... An aside; tonight on ABC at 10 there is the first part of a documentary series about the year 1969; it's called "1969" Nobody recommends it.
Tonight 2200 ET: Moon Shot

April 30: The Girl in the Car
The story of Mary Jo Kopechne, who died when Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) drove off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island.
:roll:

Looks like 6 episodes or more. Also upcoming: "Manson murders ... and Woodstock as well as President Nixon's first year in office, John Lennon's bed-ins for peace (but not Abbey Road ?), FBI shootouts with black activists (and massacres?), and the Stonewall Uprising."
https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/1969/episodes/1307842/
The thing with Kennedy and the girl that died from the incident made me think of what trump would do in such a scenario......."I wasn't driving the car; I had nothing to do with it." "Fake news, folks. Fake news." "The biggest witch hunt ever; what about all the (much worse) car accidents that the far left Democrats had?"

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The thing with Kennedy and the girl that died from the incident made me think of what trump would do in such a scenario......."I wasn't driving the car; I had nothing to do with it." "Fake news, folks. Fake news." "The biggest witch hunt ever; what about all the (much worse) car accidents that the far left Democrats had?"
Michael Cohen was driving.
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It's always the right-wingers, even in Australia...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/he ... &ocid=iehp

He was a ‘family man’ running for the Australian Senate. Then a video from a D.C. strip club aired on national television.

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Speaking of Nobodies for POTUS . . .
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Democrat Rep. Seth Moulton to run for president in 2020: 'I'm not a socialist. I'm a Democrat.'

Good, more con Dems to siphon votes from Biden.
Yet another moderate:

Colorado (US) Sen. Bennet launches Democratic presidential bid

I think that's #21 for the Dems.
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I think that's #21 for the Dems.
Meh, not everybody who "runs" expects to win or even make much impact. Problem is, as we found out in 2016, once in a blue moon one of the herd that has no chance and doesn't expect to win ends up President.

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Meh, not everybody who "runs" expects to win or even make much impact. Problem is, as we found out in 2016, once in a blue moon one of the herd that has no chance and doesn't expect to win ends up President.
Money, polling and backroom deals will weed a bunch out before we get to IA an NH.
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O Really wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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I think that's #21 for the Dems.
Meh, not everybody who "runs" expects to win or even make much impact. Problem is, as we found out in 2016, once in a blue moon one of the herd that has no chance and doesn't expect to win ends up President.
Yeah, they were whining then as they are now, much like you fellas are here.

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O Really wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 9:19 am

I think that's #21 for the Dems.
Meh, not everybody who "runs" expects to win or even make much impact. Problem is, as we found out in 2016, once in a blue moon one of the herd that has no chance and doesn't expect to win ends up President.
Yeah, they were whining then as they are now, much like you fellas are here.
They spent too much time whining, not enough time trying to get a broad spectrum of support. "Picking a lane" approach doesn't work anymore, if it ever did. I can only hope the Dems learned something.

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Why Female Presidential Candidates Are Still Overlooked, Bazaar, April 18, 2019
You've probably heard that presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg speaks Norwegian--did you know that Kirsten Gillibrand speaks fluent Mandarin?

Vanity Fair gushed over how much Beto O'Rourke likes to read . . . but left out the 11 books Elizabeth Warren has written. Kamala Harris broke fundraising records when she announced her candidacy, but those numbers have been drowned out by coverage of Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden.

Let's be clear: There's a blatantly sexist bias in the coverage of the 2020 race. If we don't call it out now, it could be another generation before America elects a woman president.

UltraViolet Education Fund is calling on CNN, MSNBC, and other national news outlets to provide fair and equal coverage of the women running for president....

The statistics are clear--women candidates are being overlooked. Tracking of media mentions of presidential candidates shows that the men candidates are consistently covered more than the women by a wide margin. In one week, Pete Buttigieg was mentioned twice as often as Kamala Harris, and Bernie Sanders was mentioned three times more than Elizabeth Warren.

And when women are covered in the national media, it's much more likely to be in a negative light. Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand have never lost an election, while Beto O'Rourke is best known for losing to Sen. Ted Cruz, and Joe Biden has lost presidential bids in 1988 and 2008. But the media keeps discussing whether the women are electable.

Consider the headlines that have run about women candidates so far this year. As soon as she announced her campaign, the biggest story about Sen. Amy Klobuchar was about how she treats her staff (I've shared that here, and nothing else :oops: ). Sen. Elizabeth Warren's strong policy plans make her “boring.”

We have women running for president who have national experience and solid policy plans--and the media keeps implying over and over again that they stand no chance against less-qualified men. Men candidates just get mentioned more often and are given more positive coverage.

Presidential candidates rely on media coverage to reach the nation, and this blatant sexism could cause a woman candidate to lose the election. We can't let that happen....

--Shaunna, Kat, Karin, Holly, Kathy, Susan, Anathea, Emma, Pilar, Natalie, Melody, Lindsay, Pam, Ryan, Sonja, and Noma, the UltraViolet Action team
2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination
RCP Average

Biden 36.8
Sanders 16.4
Warren 8.0
Harris 7.4
Buttigieg 7.0
O'Rourke 4.6
Booker 2.4
Klobuchar 1.6
Yang 0.8
Inslee 0.6
Gabbard 0.6
Castro 0.6
Why are 2 ancient white guys leading?
Why are we hearing more about Buttigieg and O'Rourke than Warren and Harris?
Why is Castro doing so poorly?



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Not disagreeing with the core point of the article, but let's face it - lots of people on that list, males and females, aren't going to be around past - and maybe not until - the first primary. Some of them started with little to no name recognition or flashy resume and have done little to improve it. And some of them are boring.

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O Really wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 12:08 am
Not disagreeing with the core point of the article, but let's face it - lots of people on that list, males and females, aren't going to be around past - and maybe not until - the first primary. Some of them started with little to no name recognition or flashy resume and have done little to improve it. And some of them are boring.
Fine with me as long as it's not sexist or racist coverage.

TV news has lost track. They're just saying, "More than 20." :D
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The Libertarian Party 2020 Presidential Ticket Shortlist
Bill Weld – Bill Weld, the fmr. Massachusetts Governor and Vice Presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party in 2016, seems to have his eye on the top of the ticket for 2020, though he has not announced any plans yet. Weld has been traveling across the country on a tour of state LP conventions, telling Reason Magazine:

“I’m sincere when I say that I’m not talking about who is going to do the Libertarian race in 2020; I’m just here to say that I think that’s a race that has some real potential to go the distance, and the sooner we all wrap our minds around that, the better.”https://ivn.us/2018/12/10/the-libertari ... shortlist/
Wait... Didn't you just post that Bill Weld was running against Trump for the Republican nomination. The article is a few months old, maybe he has changed his mind.
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Hundreds of former prosecutors say evidence against Trump supports charges

If Donald Trump weren’t president of the United States, he would have been charged with obstruction of justice, over 400 former federal prosecutors and Justice Department officials said Monday in an extraordinary public letter.

The joint statement, which had 417 signers by early afternoon, rebuts Attorney General William Barr’s assertion that the evidence of potential obstruction uncovered by special counsel Robert Mueller was “not sufficient” to establish that Trump committed a crime.

“Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice,” the statement reads. It was signed by, among others, Bill Weld, a former U.S. attorney and Massachusetts governor who is running against Trump for the 2020 Republican nomination; John Martin Sr., a former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York; and Paul Rosenzweig, senior counsel to independent counsel Kenneth Starr, who led the investigation that led to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton....viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2512&start=460
Is this why you won't say what political party you support?

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Cory Booker says this Elizabeth Warren proposal sounds like 'a Donald Trump thing to say'

Presidential candidate Cory Booker characterized his colleague and 2020 opponent Elizabeth Warren’s proposals to break up tech giants as “a Donald Trump thing to say" and called for a “president that's going to enforce antitrust laws.”

“I don’t think that a president should be running around pointing at companies and saying ‘breaking them up’ without any kind of process,” Booker, D-N.J., said in an interview Saturday on ABC News’ “This Week.”

Booker said that he believes instead of calling for companies like Facebook, Amazon and Google to be broken up, there should be a process to address corporate consolidation, declaring it a “massive problem in America.”

"It's about making sure that we have a system that works,” said Booker. “It’s not me and my own personal opinion about going after folks. That sounds more like a Donald Trump thing to say, like, 'I'm going to break up you guys, I’m gonna break' — no."
Looks like Booker is staking out his moderate turf by going after Warren. Fine, but agree or disagree with her it's BS to suggest that she's not thoughtful about any of her positions or not knowledgeable about large corporations.
When asked by ABC News correspondent Jonathan Karl if he “just compared Elizabeth Warren to Donald Trump,” Booker said, “I most certainly did not,” referring to the senator as “my friend.”
Liar.
“Let her discuss and debate her positions,” Booker said....
Her Trumpish position?
In March, Warren, D-Mass., advocated for the breakup of big tech, a proposal that largely centers around promoting competitive markets with actions like “reversing illegal and anti-competitive tech mergers,” including Amazon’s purchase of Whole Foods and Zappos and Facebook’s acquisition of WhatsApp and Instagram.

She argued that "to restore the balance of power in our democracy, to promote competition and to ensure that the next generation of technology innovation is as vibrant as the last, it’s time to break up our biggest tech companies.”

Last week, Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes’s New York Times op-ed also argued in favor of dismantling the social media giant, which he called “a powerful monopoly, eclipsing all of its rivals and erasing competition from the social networking category.”

“We are a nation with a tradition of reining in monopolies, no matter how well-intentioned the leaders of these companies may be,” wrote Hughes. “Mark’s power is unprecedented and un-American.”

“Because Facebook so dominates social networking, it faces no market-based accountability,” he continued. “This means that every time Facebook messes up, we repeat an exhausting pattern: first outrage, then disappointment and, finally, resignation.” ...
:thumbup: Warren
:thumbup: Hughes

Whatever Happened to the $100 Million Mark Zuckerberg Gave to (Mayor Cory Booker's) Newark Schools?

Ah, that explains some of what's going on.
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