Smallest goverment spender since Eisenhower? Barrack Obama
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Re: Smallest goverment spender since Eisenhower? Barrack Oba
You know the teabaggers are claiming credit for that, right? Obama rolling in 2011, sequester and all. They're claiming terrorism in politics is working even with losing on ACA.
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Post all the graphs you want. Most Americans can do basic math, know the truth, and know that the national debt has almost completely DOUBLED under obama. In other words....BULLSHIT!!
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Roland Deschain wrote:Post all the graphs you want. Most Americans can do basic math, know the truth, and know that the national debt has almost completely DOUBLED under obama. In other words....BULLSHIT!!

You know you have to do math to make graphs right? That's where the data comes from. Perhaps most Americans can do math, you're just not one of them. Graphs do make it easy to see in this case, where the problem started.



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Ok bananna.....please explain how Obama is the lowest spender since Eisenhower but he there has been almost 8 TRILLION dollars in debt added in five years, when there was only 9 trillion dollars of debt accumulated in the previous TWO HUNDRED PLUS YEARS. God you people are IDIOTS!
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You don't have the slightest clue what GDP is do you?Roland Deschain wrote:Ok bananna.....please explain how Obama is the lowest spender since Eisenhower but he there has been almost 8 TRILLION dollars in debt added in five years, when there was only 9 trillion dollars of debt accumulated in the previous TWO HUNDRED PLUS YEARS. God you people are IDIOTS!
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I don't even know where he gets the 8 trillion from. Anyone figure that one out? Then he thinks there was only 9 trillion in debt the previous 200 years? I can wind it all the way back to 2000 and we were 26 trillion in the hole. :-0?>
The only thing I can figure is that he's deliberately confusing U.S. national debt, with U.S. total debt and using them interchangeably.
The only thing I can figure is that he's deliberately confusing U.S. national debt, with U.S. total debt and using them interchangeably.
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Deflection....as usual. This: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ was at 9 trillion when obummer took office. It now stands just shy of 17 trillion...17-9=8 Basic math to difficult for you idiots? So again, please explain how this: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ has nearly DOUBLED under Obama if he is the "smallest government spender since Eisenhower"bannination wrote:I don't even know where he gets the 8 trillion from. Anyone figure that one out? Then he thinks there was only 9 trillion in debt the previous 200 years? I can wind it all the way back to 2000 and we were 26 trillion in the hole. :-0?>
The only thing I can figure is that he's deliberately confusing U.S. national debt, with U.S. total debt and using them interchangeably.
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Roland Deschain wrote:Deflection....as usual. This: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ was at 9 trillion when obummer took office. It now stands just shy of 17 trillion...17-9=8 Basic math to difficult for you idiots? So again, please explain how this: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ has nearly DOUBLED under Obama if he is the "smallest government spender since Eisenhower"bannination wrote:I don't even know where he gets the 8 trillion from. Anyone figure that one out? Then he thinks there was only 9 trillion in debt the previous 200 years? I can wind it all the way back to 2000 and we were 26 trillion in the hole. :-0?>
The only thing I can figure is that he's deliberately confusing U.S. national debt, with U.S. total debt and using them interchangeably.
Date Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings Total Public Debt Outstanding
01/16/2009 6,308,564,856,414.67 4,320,316,629,095.56 10,628,881,485,510.23
Current Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings Total Public Debt Outstanding
10/10/2013 11,930,980,640,872.43 4,816,441,217,630.81 16,747,421,858,503.24
Difference in debt held by public: 5.62 Trillion
Different in total public debt outstanding: 6.11 Trillion
EDIT: I'll be nice and just leave it at the facts. No need to act like him.
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More deflection....why can you not answer a simple question. Even your own numbers show an INCREASE in debt....so one more time....how is Obama such a "frugal" spender when DEBT has increased on his watch??bannination wrote:Roland Deschain wrote:Deflection....as usual. This: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ was at 9 trillion when obummer took office. It now stands just shy of 17 trillion...17-9=8 Basic math to difficult for you idiots? So again, please explain how this: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ has nearly DOUBLED under Obama if he is the "smallest government spender since Eisenhower"bannination wrote:I don't even know where he gets the 8 trillion from. Anyone figure that one out? Then he thinks there was only 9 trillion in debt the previous 200 years? I can wind it all the way back to 2000 and we were 26 trillion in the hole. :-0?>
The only thing I can figure is that he's deliberately confusing U.S. national debt, with U.S. total debt and using them interchangeably.
Date Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings Total Public Debt Outstanding
01/16/2009 6,308,564,856,414.67 4,320,316,629,095.56 10,628,881,485,510.23
Current Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings Total Public Debt Outstanding
10/10/2013 11,930,980,640,872.43 4,816,441,217,630.81 16,747,421,858,503.24
Difference in debt held by public: 5.62 Trillion
Different in total public debt outstanding: 6.11 Trillion
EDIT: I'll be nice and just leave it at the facts. No need to act like him.
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Re: Smallest goverment spender since Eisenhower? Barrack Oba
One way spending can decrease and debt increase is if revenue goes down. Like when you cut taxes or have a recession. Of course none of that happened, so I can't imagine why.
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First attempt at a serious answer but revenue receipts are at record levels. That presents a bit of a problem for your theory.O Really wrote:One way spending can decrease and debt increase is if revenue goes down. Like when you cut taxes or have a recession. Of course none of that happened, so I can't imagine why.
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More deflection....why can you not answer a simple question. Even your own numbers show an INCREASE in debt....so one more time....how is Obama such a "frugal" spender when DEBT has increased on his watch??
Deflection? You brought it up. I can't help you were wrong.


Post all the graphs you want. Most Americans can do basic math, know the truth, and know that the national debt has almost completely DOUBLED under obama. In other words....BULLSHIT!!
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Only for 2012. Were down from 2007 until then. Here... maybe FOX can explain it to you. Read the entire article. Don't cherry pick. Even they don't believe just spending cuts will solve the deficit.Roland Deschain wrote:First attempt at a serious answer but revenue receipts are at record levels. That presents a bit of a problem for your theory.O Really wrote:One way spending can decrease and debt increase is if revenue goes down. Like when you cut taxes or have a recession. Of course none of that happened, so I can't imagine why.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03 ... port-says/
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Still won't answer the question. Why not? If Obama is such the frugal penny pincher it should be easy but yet you continue to run away. Why?????bannination wrote:Roland Deschain wrote:
More deflection....why can you not answer a simple question. Even your own numbers show an INCREASE in debt....so one more time....how is Obama such a "frugal" spender when DEBT has increased on his watch??
Deflection? You brought it up. I can't help you were wrong.Seriously, perhaps you should start by, you know, actually reading the article.
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Post all the graphs you want. Most Americans can do basic math, know the truth, and know that the national debt has almost completely DOUBLED under obama. In other words....BULLSHIT!!
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Why not what? You still haven't read the article huh?Roland Deschain wrote:Still won't answer the question. Why not? If Obama is such the frugal penny pincher it should be easy but yet you continue to run away. Why?????bannination wrote:Roland Deschain wrote:
More deflection....why can you not answer a simple question. Even your own numbers show an INCREASE in debt....so one more time....how is Obama such a "frugal" spender when DEBT has increased on his watch??
Deflection? You brought it up. I can't help you were wrong.Seriously, perhaps you should start by, you know, actually reading the article.
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Post all the graphs you want. Most Americans can do basic math, know the truth, and know that the national debt has almost completely DOUBLED under obama. In other words....BULLSHIT!!

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His tell is the use of "deflection," as though he understood what it meant. He uses it as a sort of "I don't understand any of that shit!" Picture Ruth Gordon as Ma in Every Which Way But Loose.Vrede wrote: . . . Roland Deschain has read the articles and doesn't understand them . . . .
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Internally he thinks he somehow proved the article wrong, and his fancy math that he deflected on with the national debt is correct.Boatrocker wrote:His tell is the use of "deflection," as though he understood what it meant. He uses it as a sort of "I don't understand any of that shit!" Picture Ruth Gordon as Ma in Every Which Way But Loose.Vrede wrote: . . . Roland Deschain has read the articles and doesn't understand them . . . .