The pay sounds like an illegal corporate campaign donation to me. In a perfect world, one in which campaign finance law enforcement had not been gutted, the POSPOTUS campaign would be forced to reimburse Shell for the paid attendees. They ended up being nothing more than hired Trumpettes.
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Trump took full credit for the plant in his speech, even though it was initially approved in June 2016, during the Obama administration.
LOL of course he took CREDIT. He takes credit for anything he thinks is positive though normally he doesn't have S#$@ to do with it.
“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.” NO you do not have to respect him. He has sullied the office, and continues to do so. I respect the office, not the AH in it. Our country deserves better.
In other words, they learned to be like Melania. Take the money, and pretend to like him.
The pay sounds like an illegal corporate campaign donation to me. In a perfect world, one in which campaign finance law enforcement had not been gutted, the POSPOTUS campaign would be forced to reimburse Shell for the paid attendees. They ended up being nothing more than hired Trumpettes.
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Trump took full credit for the plant in his speech, even though it was initially approved in June 2016, during the Obama administration.
LOL of course he took CREDIT. He takes credit for anything he thinks is positive though normally he doesn't have S#$@ to do with it.
“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.” NO you do not have to respect him. He has sullied the office, and continues to do so. I respect the office, not the AH in it. Our country deserves better.
In other words, they learned to be like Melania. Take the money, and pretend to like him.
I saw that story earlier today; evidently the union bosses agreed to this, so the union guys went along with it.
Unexplained in the article, but likely the case, is that the plant was closed for Trump's visit and no regular work was scheduled for the crews. Therefore, it would have essentially been a day of "layoff" for the crews, with no pay. Except - if they showed up for the Trump charade they would be paid for the time. If the workers performed any actual work, they'd have to be paid, politics of Shell notwithstanding. Crappy thing to do, but probably legal. Construction projects get delayed and work canceled for a day or so for lots of reasons - weather, materials issues, yada.
Unexplained in the article, but likely the case, is that the plant was closed for Trump's visit and no regular work was scheduled for the crews. Therefore, it would have essentially been a day of "layoff" for the crews, with no pay. Except - if they showed up for the Trump charade they would be paid for the time. If the workers performed any actual work, they'd have to be paid, politics of Shell notwithstanding. Crappy thing to do, but probably legal. Construction projects get delayed and work canceled for a day or so for lots of reasons - weather, materials issues, yada.
Maybe legal under labor law, but I'm not so sure about campaign finance law. It sure looks to me like the wages for attendees were an in kind corporate donation from Shell to the 45SHOLE campaign.
Unexplained in the article, but likely the case, is that the plant was closed for Trump's visit and no regular work was scheduled for the crews. Therefore, it would have essentially been a day of "layoff" for the crews, with no pay. Except - if they showed up for the Trump charade they would be paid for the time. If the workers performed any actual work, they'd have to be paid, politics of Shell notwithstanding. Crappy thing to do, but probably legal. Construction projects get delayed and work canceled for a day or so for lots of reasons - weather, materials issues, yada.
Maybe legal under labor law, but I'm not so sure about campaign finance law. It sure looks to me like the wages for attendees were an in kind corporate donation from Shell to the 45SHOLE campaign.
After getting up off the floor from laughing, I have to say that trump has historically been dismissive of campaign finance laws and also that until he's shit canned from office won't have to answer for it. I don't understand your assertion that "wages" were some sort of contribution; the wages were paid to the workers, so he got no financial benefit from that whether those workers were paid or not.
After getting up off the floor from laughing, I have to say that trump has historically been dismissive of campaign finance laws and also that until he's shit canned from office won't have to answer for it. I don't understand your assertion that "wages" were some sort of contribution; the wages were paid to the workers, so he got no financial benefit from that whether those workers were paid or not.
I agree that campaign finance law enforcement is rotten.
The benefit to the campaign does not have to be directly financial. Whether it was the original intent or not, it became a campaign rally thanks to 45SHOLE's speech. It would have been a sucky rally with thousands fewer in attendance. So, the value to the campaign for each Shell worker there was exactly the amount that they were paid. That's an in kind, reportable, and illegal if it comes from a corporation donation to the campaign, no different than if Shell had hired door knockers, yard sign distributers, PR consultants, etc. for 45SHOLE's reelection.
After getting up off the floor from laughing, I have to say that trump has historically been dismissive of campaign finance laws and also that until he's shit canned from office won't have to answer for it. I don't understand your assertion that "wages" were some sort of contribution; the wages were paid to the workers, so he got no financial benefit from that whether those workers were paid or not.
I agree that campaign finance law enforcement is rotten.
The benefit to the campaign does not have to be directly financial. Whether it was the original intent or not, it became a campaign rally thanks to 45SHOLE's speech. It would have been a sucky rally with thousands fewer in attendance. So, the value to the campaign for each Shell worker there was exactly the amount that they were paid. That's an in kind, reportable, and illegal if it comes from a corporation donation to the campaign, no different than if Shell had hired door knockers, yard sign distributers, PR consultants, etc. for 45SHOLE's reelection.
I sort of think every appearance the moron makes, whether "official" or not, turns into a campaign rally just because of the juvenile mindset the fucking idiot has. Come to think of it, his entire life has been one of self promotion and bullshit; sometimes profitable to him and other times not. As far as Shell goes, they will support whoever is best for their bottom line. I am actually surprised that those workers belong to a union; rare these days. Eugene Debs would not have allowed those workers to participate in this sort of thing.
I sort of think every appearance the moron makes, whether "official" or not, turns into a campaign rally just because of the juvenile mindset the fucking idiot has....
Each one that does should result in the campaign reimbursing Treasury for all costs above normal DC security, food, etc., including AF1 rental. When Obama campaigned for Hillary her campaign picked up the tab.
I sort of think every appearance the moron makes, whether "official" or not, turns into a campaign rally just because of the juvenile mindset the fucking idiot has....
Each one that does should result in the campaign reimbursing Treasury for all costs above normal DC security, food, etc., including AF1 rental. When Obama campaigned for Hillary her campaign picked up the tab.
Sounds good to me. Supposedly, trump declines his presidential salary and it stays in the Treasury, but that's probably just another lie. Who knows? Even if true, I'm sure he takes the $400K tax deduction for it and likely gets an IRS "refund" in an amount more than his salary.
Sounds good to me. Supposedly, trump declines his presidential salary and it stays in the Treasury, but that's probably just another lie. Who knows? Even if true, I'm sure he takes the $400K tax deduction for it and likely gets an IRS "refund" in an amount more than his salary.
He supposedly has to take the salary and then donates it back to some part of govt. I think I read that the Surgeon General's office was the most recent recipient. Good point about the tax deduction. He's also monetized the office for far more than he's donating.
A new CNN poll shows that former Vice President Joe Biden's lead in the Democratic field has increased, while Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., saw her support among registered Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters drop by 12 percentage points since June.
Biden's support increased by seven percentage points as 29% of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters said they would vote for Biden, according to the poll by CNN and the survey firm SSRS.
Sigh.
Five percent of the voters surveyed said they backed Harris, down from the 17% support she enjoyed in June, when Biden and Harris sparred over Biden's previous comments about segregationist senators during the first Democratic debate.
Seems like she got hurt by the response highlighting her contribution to the prison-industrial complex. Okay by me.
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., had the second and third largest pools of support, respectively. Fifteen percent of respondents said they'd vote for Sanders, and 14% favored Warren.
Other polls have them higher, and this article doesn't say whether that's a shift in this poll or not. Looks like neither will drop out soon, thus benefiting the other.
Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro polled at 2% in this survey, meaning that he qualified for the third Democratic presidential debate in Houston, Texas, in September.
I'm glad he'll still be on stage. I assume that Mayor Pete will be, too. Any others?
... The third Democratic presidential debate has harder cutoffs than the previous debates, as candidates have to hit 2% in four national polls and have at least 130,000 small donors.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) plans to introduce legislation this fall to rescind 20 Medals of Honor awarded to U.S. soldiers who slaughtered hundreds of Lakota Indians ― mostly women and children ― in the Wounded Knee Massacre of 1890....
Good for Joe; it's comforting, somewhat, to see some of the former nut jobs coming out against the trump cult. I was thinking just the other day that the closer it gets to the election, the more unhinged trump is likely to become, if you can imagine that. I don't foresee him going quietly when he loses......fake news, millions of illegal votes, the system is rigged; take your pick. It will be something to behold just in time for the holidays.
"I go to parties, sometimes until four
It's hard to leave when you can't find the door
It's tough to handle this fortune and fame
Everybody's so different, I haven't changed"
-- Joe Walsh
Joe Arpaio, the former Arizona sheriff who built a national reputation as a staunch foe of illegal immigration, announced on Sunday - the anniversary of his pardon by President Donald Trump - that he will see re-election to his old job next year.
Arpaio, 87, a Republican who was voted out of office in 2016 after a 24-year tenure as Maricopa County's longest-serving sheriff, said he will seek his party's nomination for the post again in the Aug. 4, 2020 primary, running against his onetime chief deputy, Gerard Sheridan.
The winner of that primary will likely face the man who defeated Arpaio in 2016, the current incumbent sheriff, Democrat Paul Penzone, in the November 2020 general election.
Arpaio lost a Republican primary bid in 2018 for the U.S. Senate seat in Arizona vacated by the retirement of fellow Republican Jeff Flake, a frequent critic of Trump....
I support this effort by the serial illegal.
2016 Maricopa County Sheriff's Office election: Arpaio 43.48%
2018 U.S. Senate Republican primary: Arpaio 17.79%
Let's make it a hat trick of electoral humiliations for him and his fanboys, and consequent Dem wins, then add a new one every 2 years for as long as he lives.
... What I find more significant is guys like McCain, Flake, and the six or eight GOP House members that have decided to not seek re election because of trump and his acute ignorance; those guys are standing on principle, even though it took some of them nearly three years to do so.
They've decided that there's no chance for 45SHOLE to mature enough for them to keep the Senate and the WH, or to win back the House.
I didn't mean to include McCain in that group since he's dead, but he was the only one who stood up to this moron from the start, and he was a Navy guy. Even though I had a lot of opposite views I always respected his integrity and national service. I like guys who got captured and still succeeded.
Repugs are jumping ship faster than they did in 2017 - PBS news says 14 now. This one is in such a hurry that he's letting a Dem Gov appoint his replacement.
... Sanders and Warren are both tied at 20%, with Biden at 19%, according to a Monmouth University national poll published Monday.
Biden, the consistent leader in polling throughout the primary election cycle, dropped 13 percentage points from June, where he was at 32%. That gap appears to be shrinking.
Both Sanders and Warren saw a small jump from June, by 6 percentage points and 5 percentage points respectively. Those are the only three candidates to hold double digits in that poll....
The next candidate behind the leading three was Sen. Kamala Harris at 8%. Sen. Cory Booker and Mayor Pete Buttigieg polled at 4%; entrepreneur Andrew Yang was at 3%; and Texans Julián Castro and Beto O'Rourke, along with Marianne Williamson, were all at 2%....
