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[GoCubsGo]

BTW, can we get rid of the Gator chomp while we're at it, and also that satanic Devil's horns thing the Texas people do.

Chomping bbq gator is a national pastime.

[GoCubsGo]

Series tied at one apiece with Atlanta ahead in game 3.

Game 3, back in Atlanta:

Braves are clawing their way back.

Score by 4th inning: Braves 1, Astros 0.

[Vrede too]

That would probably be self-correcting, but it's not happening. Not going to happen, and isn't equivalent anyway.
BTW, can we get rid of the Gator chomp while we're at it, and also that satanic Devil's horns thing the Texas people do.

Is it not going to happen because we're less sensitive to offending Indians?

I agree that those others are annoying and/or silly, but gators and steers ain't people.

[Ulysses]

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[Vrede too]

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:happy-cheerleaderkid:

We know that it's there. Feeling a little attention starved? Awww.

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Useless trivia.

Desperate 'Look at me! Look at me!' Useless has now started a WS thread that he will be the only person to post to. Tragic. Very strangely, he doesn't even say who he is rooting for. :confusion-scratchheadblue:

Seriously, what's the point? ...

[O Really]

That would probably be self-correcting, but it's not happening. Not going to happen, and isn't equivalent anyway.
BTW, can we get rid of the Gator chomp while we're at it, and also that satanic Devil's horns thing the Texas people do.

Is it not going to happen because we're less sensitive to offending Indians?

I agree that those others are annoying and/or silly, but gators and steers ain't people.

Well sure we're less sensitive to offending Indians. And Vikings too. But I don't think that every use of Indian reference, name, or likeness is reasonably offensive. Chief Wahoo could be understood to be offensive. "Redskins" has more negative connotations than positive. The Spokane Indians, with Saalish lettering on their uniforms and a Tribe sponsorship in their stadium - maybe not so much. I don't think Chief Osceola could reasonably be considered disrespectful, even if obnoxious fans chop. A lot of the objection to Indian imagery has to do with stereotypes of negative, primitive, uncivilized behaviour. Tribes had a much bigger culture than scalping invading white people. But many tribes did have brave and skillful warriors, at least according to some reports by those that knew, say, General Custer for example.

I know that not everybody on my list of other examples of "people as mascots" is comparable to Indian usage, but for most of them the principle is the same - take some characterization that is in some way related to the team or the area the team is in and focus on that character being a vigorous competitor. Most Irish people aren't aggressive fighters, but many are - along with being major drinkers. Are real "Deacons" offended with the use of "Demon"? Probably some are.

[Vrede too]

Well sure we're less sensitive to offending Indians. And Vikings too. But I don't think that every use of Indian reference, name, or likeness is reasonably offensive. Chief Wahoo could be understood to be offensive. "Redskins" has more negative connotations than positive. The Spokane Indians, with Saalish lettering on their uniforms and a Tribe sponsorship in their stadium - maybe not so much. I don't think Chief Osceola could reasonably be considered disrespectful, even if obnoxious fans chop. A lot of the objection to Indian imagery has to do with stereotypes of negative, primitive, uncivilized behaviour. Tribes had a much bigger culture than scalping invading white people. But many tribes did have brave and skillful warriors, at least according to some reports by those that knew, say, General Custer for example....

I largely agree. "Braves" is kinda patronizing, but not the worst of names. My biggest issue in ATL and Tallahassee is with those "obnoxious fans chop." If it was just a few, no big deal, but I think tens of thousands chopping and chanting in oblivious unison sucks.

Aside: Big Horn Massacre would be a cool team name. Do you think some White folks would be offended?

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Well sure we're less sensitive to offending Indians. And Vikings too. But I don't think that every use of Indian reference, name, or likeness is reasonably offensive. Chief Wahoo could be understood to be offensive. "Redskins" has more negative connotations than positive. The Spokane Indians, with Saalish lettering on their uniforms and a Tribe sponsorship in their stadium - maybe not so much. I don't think Chief Osceola could reasonably be considered disrespectful, even if obnoxious fans chop. A lot of the objection to Indian imagery has to do with stereotypes of negative, primitive, uncivilized behaviour. Tribes had a much bigger culture than scalping invading white people. But many tribes did have brave and skillful warriors, at least according to some reports by those that knew, say, General Custer for example....

I largely agree. "Braves" is kinda patronizing, but not the worst of names. My biggest issue in ATL and Tallahassee is with those "obnoxious fans chop." If it was just a few, no big deal, but I think tens of thousands chopping and chanting in oblivious unison sucks.

Aside: Big Horn Massacre would be a cool team name. Do you think some White folks would be offended?

The fans could collectively make a slitting their throat motion for their obnoxious team chant!

[Vrede too]

... Aside: Big Horn Massacre would be a cool team name. Do you think some White folks would be offended?

The fans could collectively make a slitting their throat motion for their obnoxious team chant!

:thumbup: Or scalping!

Yeah, I know that scalping was made widespread by Whites offering bounties in the French and Indian Wars and at other times, but it's not like the current tomahawk chant belonged to more than one tribe, if any.

[O Really]

Man, you know its a dull Series when we're talking about obnoxious fans instead of the game play.

[Vrede too]

Man, you know its a dull Series when we're talking about obnoxious fans instead of the game play.

Useless is now so desperate to be noticed that he's quoting you in the thread he started rather than just replying here. Pitiful.

[GoCubsGo]

Yuck. This WS does suck.

[Vrede too]

Man, you know its a dull Series when we're talking about obnoxious fans instead of the game play.

Useless is now so desperate to be noticed that he's quoting you in the thread he started rather than just replying here. Pitiful.

This was after he'd co-opted our lengthy discussion on team names/mascots/cheers. That boy ain't right.

[GoCubsGo]

Man, you know its a dull Series when we're talking about obnoxious fans instead of the game play.

Useless is now so desperate to be noticed that he's quoting you in the thread he started rather than just replying here. Pitiful.

This was after he'd co-opted our lengthy discussion on team names/mascots/cheers. That boy ain't right.

Attempted to co-op. You guys were talking about actual team names and he was out in left field.

[Vrede too]

Useless is now so desperate to be noticed that he's quoting you in the thread he started rather than just replying here. Pitiful.

This was after he'd co-opted our lengthy discussion on team names/mascots/cheers. That boy ain't right.

Attempted to co-opt. You guys were talking about actual team names and he was out in left field.

True. It was bizarre.

Baseball metaphor - I see what you did there. ;)

[GoCubsGo]

Useless is now so desperate to be noticed that he's quoting you in the thread he started rather than just replying here. Pitiful.

This was after he'd co-opted our lengthy discussion on team names/mascots/cheers. That boy ain't right.

Attempted to co-opt. You guys were talking about actual team names and he was out in left field.

True. It was bizarre.

Baseball metaphor - I see what you did there. ;)

Maybe he's playing "left out".

Well, the decision was made for me.


Go Stros!

[GoCubsGo]

Holy crap, they stuck him way in the outfield corner.

:happy-cheerleaderkid:

[Vrede too]

Holy crap, they stuck him way in the outfield corner.

:happy-cheerleaderkid:

Late request for a box? Did he just lose Texas?

Useless is whining about you on his "Look at me" thread.

Hmm.

Interesting that some here are more inclined to talk about Trump than baseball.

Go figure.

Maybe they have a crush on him?

Hmm.

Interesting that Useless is more inclined to talk about you than baseball.

Go figure.

Maybe Useless has a crush on you? Nttawwt.

[GoCubsGo]

Hmm.

Interesting that Useless is more inclined to talk about you than baseball.

Go figure.

Maybe Useless has a crush on you? Nttawwt.

:laughing-rofl:

:headscratch: -0-? Why does he post links for gamecasts when we can just, you know, watch the game?

[Vrede too]

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:headscratch: -0-? Why does he post links for gamecasts when we can just, you know, watch the game?

You beat me to it. Also, why does he imagine that we don't know how to navigate to sports websites?