The homophobic thread :>

[1 CAT FAN]

And the freedom to not marry same sex.

If you don't like same sex marriage then don't marry same sex. Easy peasy.

If your neighbor wants to marry same sex it's none of your damn business.

The republic will not fall.

Yeah that. And the "pride" objectors should quit making it all about themselves. It's not about you, Mr Ms straight person. And it's no more stuffing it down your throats than a St Paddy day parade is making you Irish. Don't go to the parade. Don't invite your gay neighbors to your parties. Nobody cares. It's not about you.

Thanks for pointing that out, it's only about queers. Has the "Rainbow" invited you to the parade?

[O Really]

Guessing a good portion of wingnuts don't really care all that much although there are fundamentalist exceptions.

Much like trans in sports, it's not a real problem but it's a political winner so they beat it to death.

Hey, these are people who can turn a non-story of one homeless person killing a stray cat into a bunch of zombie Haitians eating your Fluffy with a tasty jerk sauce and a nice Chianti.

[1 CAT FAN]

What you are saying is true.

But where do these freedoms end?

What if an older man and young girl want to marry?

You bigots sure are obsessed with pedophilia. Hmm. You're comparing apples and pumpkins. Society has determined that young children do not have the maturity to consent. It's creepy that you don't know this.

Slippery slopes can also go in any direction. For the people claiming that allowing gay marriage is a slippery slope to other heinous things, disallowing gay marriage is equally a slippery slope in a different direction. Religious and morally prescriptions dictating society can also lead to extremes like the Islamic State or the Taliban. It cuts both ways.

It's a dumb concept. Freedoms end wherever society deems they should end and sliding is not inevitable.
We have the freedom to drive cars, but we are not free to do so at any speed.
We have freedom of speech, but limitations include slander/libel, violent threats, dishonest drug claims, child and other types of porn, filing false business records DonOLD, etc.
Old men have the freedom to marry young adults, UNC coach Bill Belichick , but not young girls.

Limitations on child porn, what the hell have you been watching? Sickass "Rainbow".

[Vrede too]

But where do these freedoms end?

What if an older man and young girl want to marry?

The Bible doesn't appear to explicitly forbid this. It doesn't appear to provide any explicit age in which it's acceptable to marry.

No surprise, the Bible was written by older men.

I couldn't find anything at least so if I'm wrong please correct me. Is it therefore morally acceptable for a grown man to marry a child? No!!! But the Bible appears to indicate so.

Only 2 possibilities:
1. The Bible is not divinely inspired and was in part the product of dirty old men.
2. God is a dirty old man.

Thankfully we all collectively agree this is wrong and illegal and morally repugnant.

Can we therefore conclude that the Bible is also morally perverse?

https://biblehub.com/genesis/19-33.htm

No doubt about it.

[O Really]

I'm thinking you might not want to use Biblical standards for setting current marriage practices or determining what is an acceptable age for marriage relationships.

In biblical times among faithful children of God, marriage preceded producing offspring. Further, God's people valued children to the extent that given good physical health by both prospective parents, children typically entered marriage as early as nine months after the marriage. Part of paragraph three of my Editorial for Gospel Gazette Online in February 2003 spoke to marriage ages for biblical Jews.

Also, under Judaism, boys could marry or make religious vows at 14-years-old and girls at 12-years-old, both only with parental permission, which parental permission was required until both boys or girls were 21-years-old ("Adult Age," McClintock and Strong Encyclopaedia).

Still further, excerpts from my book, Biblical Companions, briefly addresses ancient, biblical marriage customs.

Ancient marriages were usually arranged between the oldest male family members within the same group or family clan (Genesis 27:46-28:2). This guaranteed the future existence of the overall group and preservation of culture and values. Girls were given in marriage when they were old enough to bear children, whereas men married when they either received their inheritance or obtained their own resources. It was also common for the groom to give a dowry, or purchase his wife from his future father-in-law. In the case of Jacob, since he evidently had no such dowry, he indentured himself to his father-in-law in exchange for his wives (Genesis 29:15-21). (Rushmore)

During the first century, however, it appears to have been the general rule that young people who were "of age" could arrange their own marriages. A girl was considered of age at twelve years and one day. The Jewish rabbis set the minimum age for marriage at twelve years for the girl, and thirteen years for the boy. A boy should certainly be wed by the time he was eighteen to twenty. Betrothal was a vital part of marriage in biblical times. Once a young man had chosen his prospective bride, and she had consented (if of age), a formal declaration of marital intent was made in the presence of two witnesses. The couple was then betrothed. The betrothal period was fixed by law. For a maiden, it was from ten months to a year; for a widow, three months. From the time of her betrothal until the marriage actually took place, a woman was treated as if she were actually married. The betrothal could not be dissolved except by divorce; breach of faithfulness was regarded as adultery. (Jackson)

When the day for the marriage arrives, the bridegroom with some of his friends goes to the house of the father-in-law, and receives the bride. She is brought with much parade to the bridegroom's home, where a feast is prepared, of which the guests partake with a great deal of boisterous merriment. (McGarvey)

Judaism prohibited marriage between Israelites and non-Israelites (Deuteronomy 7:3-4; Ezra 10:10-14). One purpose of this prohibition was to segregate God's people from heathens who would lead them into idolatry. Another reason for restricting these marriages was to preserve the family tree of Abraham until Old Testament prophecies concerning the Messiah could be fulfilled through Jesus Christ. (Rushmore)

Anciently in biblical times, girls often married at or shortly following puberty, and boys usually married sometime between puberty and their latter teen years. Given the emphasis on family anciently, children often were born to a marriage consequently within the year following marriage.Image

Works Cited

Jackson, Wayne. Background Bible Study. Montgomery: Apologetics Press, 1986.

McGarvey, J.W. Lands of the Bible. Nashville: Gospel Advocate, 1966.

Rushmore, Louis. Biblical Companions: Geography, Archaeology & Sacred History. Cameron: Louis Rushmore, 2000.

[1 CAT FAN]

I'm thinking you might not want to use Biblical standards for setting current marriage practices or determining what is an acceptable age for marriage relationships.

What is the age difference between you and O Lady?

Do you have enough "Ka Ching" to be a Bill Belichick?

[Whack9]

If you remove it from its historical and cultural context, the Bible is a pretty strange, gross, book.

Ezekial 23:20

https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/23-20.htm

[GoCubsGo]

If you remove it from its historical and cultural context, the Bible is a pretty strange, gross, book.

Ezekial 23:20

https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/23-20.htm

Who knew that hung like a horse was biblical in origin?

Word of god?!

[O Really]

If you remove it from its historical and cultural context, the Bible is a pretty strange, gross, book.

Ezekial 23:20

https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/23-20.htm

Who knew that hung like a horse was biblical in origin?

Word of god?!

That may not have been complimentary. During that time in Greece at least, small dicks were considered a good thing, and to refer to the enemy Egyptians as being hung like a donkey was possibly an insult.

[GoCubsGo]

If you remove it from its historical and cultural context, the Bible is a pretty strange, gross, book.

Ezekial 23:20

https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/23-20.htm

Who knew that hung like a horse was biblical in origin?

Word of god?!

That may not have been complimentary. During that time in Greece at least, small dicks were considered a good thing, and to refer to the enemy Egyptians as being hung like a donkey was possibly an insult.

That's a serious piece of trivia!

[1 CAT FAN]

Stop it! Y'all are getting the "Rainbow" Superstar Cultmaster excited.

The Jezebel wept when David cut Goliath's head off.

[O Really]

That's a serious piece of trivia!

Yeah, fershure. But look - art from about 200-300 BCE. Little dicks every one of them.

[GoCubsGo]

The dog thing looks distressed.

[1 CAT FAN]

That's a serious piece of trivia!

Yeah, fershure. But look - art from about 200-300 BCE. Little dicks every one of them.

Is that a goat at the bottom?

[Vrede too]

The dog thing looks distressed.

It's all that little dick energy.

[GoCubsGo]

The dog thing looks distressed.

It's all that little dick energy.

Smallest lamb fries he's ever seen.

[1 CAT FAN]

The dog thing looks distressed.

It's all that little dick energy.

The goat has his own thing going on, doesn't seem to be any women around.

[Vrede too]

The dog thing looks distressed.

It's all that little dick energy.

Smallest lamb fries he's ever seen.

"lamb fries"?

Ah, never mind: Lamb fries
I've had Rocky Mountain Oysters, but never these. I'm not sure that I would be able to banish the image of cute little eunuch lambs in order to get them down.

[bannination]

There were certainly marriages in the Bible.

I believe that marriages between same sexes are an abomination against God.

Yes, but a religious marriage, not a civil one.

You are entitled to believe that. I believe something different. We're both natural-born citizens - who does the state favour? Consider: You may believe marriage of two of the same sex is an abomination, but you suffer no harm if the state agrees with me. On the other hand, if the state agrees with you, I'm deprived of rights otherwise available to citizens who hold your belief. How could you explain that not being a violation of the First (religious) Amendment and the 14th (equal protection)? Feel free to use AI if you like.

It might not hurt me personally, but the very idea of condoning same-sex marriage is a threat to the moral fabric of our society, in my view. We don’t ever want such lifestyles to be considered normal or acceptable. You may think it’s great to see younger generations accept these lifestyles. I don’t.

I fully realize what is happening here. The Bible says man will become more depraved in the end times. In my view, we are getting more wicked with every passing generation. We are becoming more accepting of perverse behavior. I can’t stop the snowball rolling down the hill. That doesn’t mean I’m going to stop trying.

No god cares what you do with your vagina.

[GoCubsGo]

Ouch.