Trump

[O Really]

I want to see Trump vs. Sanders so bad. But alas, its highly doubtful.

I like Sanders, but it would be a bit scary for him to get the nomination. Here's why: Despite having been a Senator for a long time, he doesn't have much of a record of what he's done. That makes it easier for the other side to bash him with negatives. So far, Republicans have gone light on him because they'd rather run against him. For starters, they'd beat him over the head with "socialist" - not that it's a secret, but right-wing propagandists have a way of making "soccer mom" a perversion. I just think that while his ideas are (generally) good and his head/heart is in the right place, he has too few positives to flout and too much potential for negatives.

Hillary, on the other hand, has her share of warts and baggage, but it's all been out there for years. And she's got a lot of stuff she's done. She won't be rattled by Trump's style of abuse.

[Vrede too]

Either of them beats Trump and old socialists don't get rattled.

[Vrede too]

This disturbing painting of Donald Trump could land the artist in court
Bids are already topping $141,000

She hit Donald Trump where it hurts, and it looks like somebody’s about to hit back.

Los Angeles-based artist Illma Gore’s painting of a naked — and, um, somewhat lacking — Donald Trump went on display in the Maddox Gallery in London’s posh Mayfair neighborhood last week, and it’s attracting bids in excess of $141,000, according to the Guardian.

It’s also attracting a potential lawsuit from someone claiming to be part of Trump’s legal team, though Gore shrugs off the threat and vows to stand by her work.

On what grounds?

The painting, dubbed “Make America Great Again,” went viral earlier this year when Gore posted it on her Facebook page, and it likely helped to make Trump’s anatomy a hot topic on the debate stage. Since then, she says she’s received thousands of death and rape threats.

Crybaby Trumpettes, likely too cowardly to use their real names.

The attention has also led to hundreds lining up at the gallery to see the painting.

“The reaction, especially in the UK, has been incredibly supportive. Everywhere apart from America has been great,” Gore told the Guardian. “Who knew it would be such a big deal? I think an artist’s job is to take the times we’re living in and then set the scene. It is a representation of where we are.”

Full painting - NSFW, maybe, there ain't much there.

[billy.pilgrim]

The hands are too big

[Vrede too]

To be honest, I would urge companies to cancel their sponsorship of the Republican National Convention no matter who the candidate was . . . and probably the Democratic National Convention, too. It's unlimited corporate bribery of our politics. If cancellation fuels internal GOP strife by being blamed on Trump, so much the better.

Tell Walmart not to sponsor Trump’s hate

“Ensure that Walmart does not help provide a platform for Donald Trump's harmful and bigoted rhetoric by pledging not to sponsor the Republican National Convention if Donald Trump is the Republican nominee.”

There’s Only One Country That Isn’t Worried About a Trump Presidency



Autocrats of a feather stick together.

Any thoughts on why the margin is relatively slim in Canada, rstrong? Just curious, not a dig.

[Vrede too]

Compare this to what happens when Trump opponents show up at a Trump rally.



Of course, a bunch of them were sympathy hugs.

My bad, there is a comparison.



Not great, but better than I would have guessed . . . and several Bernie supporters at the Trump rally. :-0?>

[Vrede too]

A Teacher Was Forced to Resign after Showing His Class a John Oliver ("Make Donald Drumpf Again") Clip

Briefly, yet another crybaby Trumpette is a yuuuge looozer.

[Seth Milner]

[billy.pilgrim]

I can't see why trump would be hard to beat in the general.

In Trump vs. Hillary, the wingnuts and inbreds all show up at the polls, while the well-meaning progressives stay home.

In Cruz vs. Hillary, even the wingnuts and inbreds stay home.

I've changed my mind on this one.
The same thing will happen here as did in California when a movie character was recently elected governator

It has nothing to do with outsider/insider, or party platforms, or liberal/conservative, or anything else that has ever been part of a presidential election

Thumper will be elected because of his ability to say, "your fired"
Just like the governator wouldn't take no kinda shit from nobody, dunald is gonna fire all the do nothing gubberment workers and win all our wars.
If you don't believe me, ask a poorly educated, tv watching moron.

[O Really]

There have been a lot of incompetent dimbulbs elected governor or senator in a lot of states, only some of them have been professional actors, and not all who were professional actors were awful. Trump, though, is not Ahnald, nor Ronnie, nor Jesse. Everybody else was reasonably popular - or at least not despised by a large proportion of the voters - and used that popularity and name recognition to advantage. Nobody expected Ventura to win in Minnesota, but there was no incumbent and the two major party candidates weren't earth-shakers. Good timing, good luck, not likely to happen again.

Trump, on the other hand, as part of his effort to assure the votes of his beloved "poorly educated" has pretty much written off the female half of the population, along with all the blacks and hispanics. He's not getting any of those back by bashing the personal life/characteristics of "Crooked Hillary." Even if in a national poll he were even or slightly ahead of Hillary, the electoral votes aren't counted nationally.

He's going down. Big. And hopefully along with a bunch of other Republican trash.

[billy.pilgrim]

There have been a lot of incompetent dimbulbs elected governor or senator in a lot of states, only some of them have been professional actors, and not all who were professional actors were awful. Trump, though, is not Ahnald, nor Ronnie, nor Jesse. Everybody else was reasonably popular - or at least not despised by a large proportion of the voters - and used that popularity and name recognition to advantage. Nobody expected Ventura to win in Minnesota, but there was no incumbent and the two major party candidates weren't earth-shakers. Good timing, good luck, not likely to happen again.

Trump, on the other hand, as part of his effort to assure the votes of his beloved "poorly educated" has pretty much written off the female half of the population, along with all the blacks and hispanics. He's not getting any of those back by bashing the personal life/characteristics of "Crooked Hillary." Even if in a national poll he were even or slightly ahead of Hillary, the electoral votes aren't counted nationally.

He's going down. Big. And hopefully along with a bunch of other Republican trash.

I hope you are right

[Vrede too]

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
-- H. L. Mencken

Kinda apt in this case coming from an elitist, racist, Nazi sympathizer.

The strategies will be interesting.
Every Trump competitor that tried to be as nasty as him suffered for it.
Hillary couldn't afford to really piss off progressives and Bernie's too good a guy to get nasty with, anyhow.
How should she and will she play the game with Trump, Kasich style high road or Jeb/Cruz style low road? We know that she can do either.
Personally, I'd like to see him humiliated, not just by the vote but also by the campaign. But, I don't know if it's the winning strategy to go that route.

[Vrede too]

Another strategic choice - Is it more effective to focus on rightwing Trump so moderates vote Hillary, or on leftwing Trump so cons stay home in disgust? Can both be done at the same time?

[O Really]

I think she gave a preview tonight - on personal attacks, more like "he's not the only one to try to take me out, and not even the best. Pretty much what you'd expect from a bully." Don't get into an argument over Bill or Monica. Keep focused on things people care about, including the things Bernie supporters care about. And yes, The Donald is such a contradiction himself that it's totally possible to highlight things that will piss off right-wingers and independents too.

[Vrede too]

She's gotta seem mostly adult and nice until after the convention. Then? Plus, she doesn't have to get her hands too dirty, there are so-called "independent" PACs for that.

[O Really]

Well, PACs are "independent" only from direct collaboration - it's not even a pretense that PACs support specific people. So she'll have those, plus a bunch of surrogates including, apparently, Elizabeth Warren and , probably, Bernie. She'll also have hours of video of what Trump's fellow Republicans have said about him, as well as what he has said himself. I really don't think the middle-school level trashing that Trump ran on "Little Marco" et. al. is going to fly against Hillary. Trump needs to pick up new supporters among women, blacks, Hispanics, and anybody who's not an old white male or white supremacist. Trash-talking HIllary isn't going to do that.

[Vrede too]

Could be, but it's been such a wild election so far I'm not betting on anything.

PACs aren't independent from direct collaboration at all. That's a facade, one I helped fight and lost even at the municipal level 2 decades ago.

[O Really]

Yeah, I know they aren't really even separate. More of a Chinese Wall with lots of gaps.

[Vrede too]

... While Donald Trump publicly calls for mass deportations of all undocumented immigrants, his presidential campaign has hired a law firm that is fighting against the deportation of thousands of undocumented refugees from Central America....

"Trump has paid Jones Day $598,109 for its work so far ... Jones Day has been actively recruiting its partners and associates to provide free legal services to ... more than 100,000 people ... who have entered the country unlawfully"

In other words, xenophobic Trumpette donors are subsidizing illegal aliens. This on top of the anti-lobbyist Trump having hired one of the sleaziest lobbyists around to a top campaign post. Seems he's lousy at making personnel decisions.

[JTA]

Trumps gonna be prez and he's gonna deport you libs back to Socialiststan.

/s